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05:43 / 18.02.07
As some of you might know, I'm working to get my MA degree in Museum Studies, specifically museum education. For a variety of reasons, I don't feel quite prepared to settle into a career just yet, and I want to get a Ph.D. in something. Up till recently I was planning to get a Ph.D. in some content area that interested me, like ancient sumerian demonology or similar, and hope that one day a museum or university post would open up to suit. But my advisor is quite right in telling me that the field is headed away from that sort of thing. (and anyway, you can only get a post teaching or curating ancient sumerian demonology when the former occupant dies, and even given the frightful rate of decession of ancient sumerian demonologists, posts are few and the competition fierce.)

My advisor recommended a D. Ed. (or Ed. D.) rather than a content specialization. Which I am still considering applying for. But while pursuing that line of reasoning I came upon UC Berkeley's School of Information.

I am very much interested in how museums use technology to gather and convey information. I think research with the School of Information, particularly in the social studies of information specialization, would be really helpful in my career. The iSchool, as it is called (haha! how droll!), offers a MS and a Ph.D. The MS requires programming experience; the Ph.D. does not seem to. I have no programming experience. In fact, I haven't done a lot formally with computers. I designed and paper-prototyped a dynamic webtool for a museum project last quarter. And I've done all the recreational stuff everyone does. But I suspect that "I'm a user baby, so why don't you admit me" probably won't cut it.

What do I need to do to get from here (interested user who thinks a lot about technology) to there (shining gem of an information theory candidate that they can't pass up)? Or should I just get an Ed. D. instead?

Infotech pros and cons:
+ My field NEEDS this.
+ I'll be likely to make more money.
+ I'll be likely to stay interested in my job.
+ I'll be in demand; very few people are going this route.
+ I can build connections between the information gurus and the museum world, which is needed.
- I don't know how to code.
- I don't know if I have aptitude for coding.
- I don't even know if I would like coding.
= Coding may or may not be required.
+ I'll be likely to be more flexible and hirable; if all museums die of the plague in the next five years I can get a job doing something else.

Pros and cons of D. Ed/Ed. D.:
+ I like learning theory.
+ I have aptitude for learning theory.
- I don't like kids, and most D. Ed. programs have something to do with childhood learning.
- I have little interest in public schools, and most D. Ed. programs have something to do with public schools.
+ If I don't end up at a museum, I'll be able to teach, or even administrate.
- If I don't end up at a museum, I'll probably HAVE to teach or administrate.
- Without a content specialization, what I can teach will be limited.

Any thoughts? I've mostly just been brainstorming out loud here, so this might make more or less sense than I think...
 
 
Make me Uncomfortable
16:04 / 18.02.07
Infotech sounds awesome.

As a fellow man-of-many-majors (Currently undergrad at Carnegie Mellon as (hopefully) a Critical Theory in Art and Literature double-major) with an interest in Museum Studies (I've interned at the Computer History Museum and a few other institutes), I feel like the whole field of Museums, Art Galleries, Libraries, and other Points of Cultural Collection is moving towards computer immersion.

Fundamentally, although they all deal with analog objects, the only sensible way to deal with such objects is via computer tracking systems- catalog and tag everything, scan as much as possible, and have as many ways as possible to use a database to find things rather than an individual human. IE, the whole system is going to have to adopt an approach much like amazon.com or google - a warehouse of stuff in the middle of nowhere, but all of it available on computer request- over a system like an old bookstore or small museum, where one currator is the only repository of information, and as soon as she goes, most of the historical record, organization scheme, etc, goes with her.

As much as computers and databases are currently key to running a museum, in the future this will only get worse (or better, depending on how you look at it). If you learn how to manage information systems now, you will be ahead of the curve compared to 95% of the field, most of whom learned it on the job anyway (IE, without formal training).

Note, however, that when I say "manage information systems" I am referring much more to the higher level orchestration of inputs and outputs to the system, rather than the actual coding, hardware, etc. I get this idea from my roommate, who is doing a Masters in Information Systems here at CMU. Much of his work is writing system outlines, not code. Coding is for Information Network majors (EE or CS). Information Systems, at least here at CMU, is much closer to Buisness Administration (but, you know, difficult).

So go for the PHD at iSchool. My two cents, anyway.
 
 
RichT's boring old name
10:28 / 19.02.07
My job is actually 'information manager' at a small music library and most of the database management areas have been learned on the job.

I've found there's little 'coding' involved (I wouldn't have considered myself 'able to program' before starting, although I did actually have some experience), most seems to be SQL based, or implementing that in other programs/web pages. Also I'm the IT maintainance guy, so if anything goes wrong on the network I (try to) fix it.

Most of my education beforehand was subject focussed (acoustics and music undergrad, music performance postgrad), so I had a reasonable amount of knowledge of the subject matter, which I think went a long way. I'm sure there's a lot of computer science graduates who could do a far better job than me at programming, and possibly even some levels of database management, but they don't necessarily know how to deal with the actual information in a way thet may be best suited to the people that want to be able to use the system.

Also if there is some 'proper' programming to be done, or serious redesign work it's usually done by someone else with me acting as an intermidiary, as I'm not a specialist.

So if you've got a qualification in database/information management and a reasonable degree of knowledge in a specialised field, you should make a very appealing job candidate.

Finally, programming doesn't necessarily have to be scary- it may not be quite as over your head as you think; you may have already done quite a bit without realising it (eg. the web application, that was wasn't it?)
 
 
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04:20 / 20.02.07
No, the web app was paper-prototyped— we decided what we wanted it to do and made a mockup out of paper. And then we made another mockup in PowerPoint.

Thanks for the encouragement, both of you— I will be trying to pick up some tech background before I apply, and I'll be making my thesis project something tech-focused. And I'll look into getting some more experience with database management, possibly a certification.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
15:41 / 20.02.07
If you want to do a PhD, wouldn't it be worth asking if you could speak to someone at the institution about it? They would be able to tell you about tech requirements, etc. (I know PhD programmes in the US run in a substantially different way to PhD programmes over here, with a taught component etc., but even so I would think they would be willing to discuss your planned topics etc.)

Of course you may already have done so, in which case sorry for being obvious, but you didn't say that you had...
 
 
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05:34 / 21.02.07
I... haven't. Because I have an irrational fear that if I do, then when I apply somehow they'll connect my random question with my application and go "HAHAHAHA this is the guy who eight months ago asked if he had any chance of getting in even though he didn't know what MySQL stood for! Frame this one, Norbert!" or similar.

*blush*

I'm actually planning to email one of the former students.
 
 
_pin
11:24 / 11.11.07
Any news on what you went for, Zips? And the tech advice you garnered?

I'm going in for UCL's Information Science MSc, and currently all I can program is that HTML up there. Are you in a position to informaiton geek together?
 
 
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15:12 / 11.11.07
No, I've basically decided to focus on my thesis. I have a full-time job now in something not related to museums very much at all, so I'm just working and writing the thesis and feeling like I can wait and see; I can always keep this job for another year while taking classes in computery stuff if I want to build up my curriculum before going for an IS degree, or I could go do something in the social sciences. Or maybe I'll be ready for a museum field job at that time. One of my internship advisors already suggested I apply for a Director of Education position at a museum I know of, but for various reasons, I won't be doing that.
 
 
Fist Fun
19:38 / 12.11.07
Just blag the computer stuff. Get a book and spend lots of time learning the basics and just make up some project you did or something.
 
  
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