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Quantum
15:54 / 08.02.07
Prompted by my own slackness and other's comments on getting rusty, this thread to cover basic stuff you should know. Ideally we'll end up with a thread of high-meaning-density posts which will be an ABC of basic magic stuff, like a 'Magick for dummies' thread.

I'm mostly aiming to revise and memorise basic traditional correspondences from astrology, alchemy and general GD stuff as they relate to the Tarot, but I'm hoping to grok the futhark and hebrew alphabets too and get a basic grasp of the trads I know nothing about e.g. the orishas. I'll be using this thread for notes and links mostly, hopefully other folk will find it useful and add the stuff you're revising so I can learn it for the first time.

Try to remember (/Invisibles)
 
 
EvskiG
18:40 / 08.02.07
So what do you want to start with?

Perhaps the basics of the Golden Dawn's First Knowledge Lecture?

Perhaps start with the elements, have a general discussion of how the symbols for each were chosen, debate why they've been attributed certain characteristics, etc.?
 
 
EvskiG
12:45 / 09.02.07
What the hell -- I'll get started.

The First Knowledge Lecture starts with

Fire - Hot and Dry
Water - Cool and Moist
Air - Hot and Moist
Earth - Cool and Dry

and their respective alchemical symbols.

(I rearranged the order of elements. More on that later.)

For those who are interested, memorizing these should take a minute or less.

But why memorize them? Where do they come from? Why are these considered to be the "proper" elements? And what's their significance?

From what I understand, they can be traced back to the pre-Socratic Greek philosophers. Xenophanes thought that everything ultimately emerged from and would return to earth, Thales thought that everything in the world derived from water, Anaximenes thought everything was composed of air, and Heraclitus thought fire was the one constant element in the universe. Empedocles synthesized their beliefs (along with those of Parmenides, Anaximander, etc.) and came up with the big four: Fire, Water, Air, and Earth. (He called them "roots," not elements.)

Aristotle later came up with the attributions noted above (hot and dry, cold and moist, etc.) in his work On Generation and Destruction.

(Of course, other ancient systems have different classifications of the elements: for example, the Taoist Wood, Fire, Earth, Metal, and Water.)

I believe that all of this was an early, scientific attempt to understand the composition of the natural world.

So why is it relevant to magic and mysticism today, long after we've come up with atomic theory and the periodic table of the elements?

First, despite its inaccuracy (compared to modern chemistry, physics, etc.), it still can serve as a useful shorthand for understanding, describing, and (in some instances) seeking to change the characteristics of the natural world.

Second, it seems like a potentially useful way to describe human emotions, character, and motivation. Everyone is familiar with fire, water, air, and earth, and everyone can attribute certain basic characteristics to each (a fiery temper, as mutable as water, head in the clouds, earthy). A person can use the elements as a psychological shorthand -- for example, can analyze his or her behavior, say "I have too much air in my makeup, I need more earth," and seek to alter his or her behavior accordingly.

Lots of western magical systems and techniques use the four classical elements to describe the world and ourselves and to provide tools for understanding and changing them.

In the Tarot, each element is attributed to a suit: Fire (Wands), Water (Cups), Air (Swords), and Earth (Coins).

In Western Kaballah, each element is attributed to part of the Tree of Life and one letter of the divine name YHVH: Fire (Yod), Water (Heh), Air (Vav), and Earth (Heh).

More later.
 
 
EmberLeo
19:32 / 09.02.07
My student (who came across Barbelith on her own via Google, but doesn't yet have a Membership) has asked me to ask you if she may print and keep your version of this Lecture for her notes.

--Ember--
 
 
EvskiG
19:49 / 09.02.07
Of course!
 
 
electric monk
20:02 / 09.02.07
I heart this thread. Thanks for that great post, Ev.
 
 
EvskiG
20:35 / 09.02.07
Thanks.

I'm trying to think of practical applications of the classical element theory (Fire/Water/Air/Earth) in magic. Here's one example:

In the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram, the archangels and the four cardinal directions generally are attributed to one of the elements: Fire (Michael/South), Water (Gabriel/West), Air (Raphael/East), and Earth (Uriel/North). By evoking each of the archangels and its respective element while traversing a circle, and by taking a position in the center, equidistant from each, the magician can be seen as seeking to harmonize and balance the effects and characteristics of each element within him- or herself.

This kind of balancing of the elements within the individual seems to have a long pedigree. Some Greco-Roman and medieval medicine was based on the theory of the four humors, yellow bile (Fire), phlegm (Water), blood (Air), and black bile (Earth). (Ick.) Illness and mental problems were assumed to be caused by an imbalance in the humors, and could be cured by adjusting them accordingly.

Jung later echoed this in his theory of psychological types, which said that people tend to have two ways of taking in information about the world, sensation (Earth) and intuition (Fire), and two ways of making decisions based on that information, thinking (Air) and feeling (Water). Other psychologists and personality theorists (including the Myers-Briggs folks) eventually made a full typology out of this system.

Crowley and others described each of the Court cards in the Tarot as reflecting a particular personality type based on the combination of the elements reflected by its suit and title. (E.g., King of Wands = Fire of Fire, Queen of Swords = Water of Air.)

Oh -- on a semi-related note, some people think that the four classical elements still fit pretty neatly with the four states of matter: plasma (Fire), liquid (Water), gas (Air), and solid (Earth). (And perhaps the Bose-Einstein state, if it exists, could be attributed to Spirit.)
 
 
EvskiG
20:59 / 09.02.07
One other thing that comes to mind right now: why four classical elements?

(Taoism, for example, has five.)

Again, I'd look to Jung, who said that "mankind's repeated attempts to establish an orientation toward wholeness possesses a quaternary structure, and appears to correspond to an archetypal psychic predisposition in man."

In other words, there may be a natural human predisposition to see four of something as whole or complete, and to use fourfold symbols to represent wholeness. (A square or a circle divided into quarters has bilateral and radial symmetry and a nice, solid feel.)

Jung thought that "the spontaneous production of quaternary images (including mandalas), whether consciously or in dreams and fantasies, can indicate the ego's capacity to assimilate unconscious material."

So perhaps drawing pentacles in the four quarters, and invoking the four archangels, in the LBRP -- or trying to balance or harmonize the four elements in any working -- could be seen as a method of consciously working with archetypal symbols to process and assimilate unconscious material, and thereby to achieve balance, psychic wholeness, and health.

Here's a little more Jung that may support this idea:

"The quaternity is one of the most widespread archetypes and has also proved to be one of the most useful schemata for representing the arrangement of the functions by which the conscious mind takes its bearings. It is like the crossed threads in the telescope of our understanding. The cross formed by the points of the quaternity is no less universal and has in addition the highest possible moral and religious significance for Western man. Similarly the circle, as the symbol of completeness and perfect being, is a widespread expression for heaven, sun, and God; it also expresses the primordial image of man and the soul."

"From the circle and quaternity motif is derived the symbol of the geometrically formed crystal and the wonder-working stone. From here analogy formation leads on to the city, castle, church, house, and vessel. Another variant is the wheel (rota). The former motif emphasizes the ego's containment in the greater dimension of the self; the latter emphasizes the rotation which also appears as a ritual circumambulation. Psychologically, it denotes concentration on and preoccupation with a centre."
 
 
Unconditional Love
21:35 / 09.02.07
If you put your self into the center line of your body you have four limbs, you have four directions in which you can move the body, to place yourself in the torso or heart you gain a fifth point in the form of the head, with out consciousness focused in the head you then become aware of the top and base of the body, 6 points of direction, from square to pentagram to hexagram, alot of the notion of completeness in relation to shape and mental idea of limit for me can come from where i position my consciousness in my body.

Four corners to most buildings, solid structure, foundation, four also suggests a very material animalistic quality, upon all fours for example, its a basis to grow from or come down to to gain a sense of stability.

The sense of being at one can come from full body immersion, literally being consciously aware of the totality of the physical self, monotheism. Or polytheism the body as a network of parts structures and sub structures.
 
 
EvskiG
16:20 / 12.02.07
Quantum, you started this topic -- how would you like it to proceed?

If we move on to the next part of the First Knowledge Lecture we have the 12 signs of the Zodiac: Aries (♈), Taurus (♉), Gemini (♊), Cancer (♋), Leo (♌), Virgo (♍), Libra (♎), Scorpio (♏), Sagittarius (♐), Capricorn (♑), Aquarius (♒), and Pisces (♓).

This isn't at all my area, but here are the basics as I understand them.

The Zodiac is divided into twelve zones, each of which is characterized by a given constellation (a figure composed of stars). Amusingly enough, the signs don't actually match the constellations anymore.

To build on the first part of the lecture, we have three Fire signs (Ares, Leo, Sagittarius), three Water signs (Cancer, Scorpio, and Pisces), three Air signs (Gemini, Libra, and Aquarius), and three Earth signs (Taurus, Virgo, and Capricorn).

Each sign also has one of three Qualities: Cardinal (action-focused: Ares, Cancer, Libra, Capricorn), Fixed (determined: Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, Aquarius), or Mutable (flexible: Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius, and Pisces).

Combine the element of a given sign with its quality and you can come up with a quick shorthand of the supposed character of people born under that sun sign.

A fair amount to memorize (especially if you include the dates for each sign), but not too much -- at least compared to the Tree of Life and Hebrew alphabet.

So what relevance does the Zodiac have (if any) to the modern magician?
 
 
grant
17:29 / 12.02.07
Wait, wait, wait....

Some Greco-Roman and medieval medicine was based on the theory of the four humors, yellow bile (Fire), phlegm (Air), blood (Water), and black bile (Earth).

I thought blood=sanguine=fire, black bile=melancholy=water, and phlegm=well, phlegmatic=earth.

I think wrong?
 
 
EvskiG
18:14 / 12.02.07
Crap, I mixed up phlegm and blood (that sounds disgusting).

The humors are in the correct order, but I forgot to switch Water and Air (so the elements would run Fire, Water, Air, Earth).

The correct attributions are:

Fire: yellow bile
Water: phlegm
Air: blood
Earth: black bile

That seems correct from a review of a half-dozen sites.
 
 
EvskiG
18:30 / 12.02.07
Here's medical pioneer Galen discussing the Father of Medicine Hippocrates on the humors:

(I put the appropriate elements in brackets)

[I]n each of the four seasons, the prevailing humor is the one similar in mixture to that same season, and on this account names phlegm, cold and wet [Water], as corresponding to winter, and blood, hot and wet [Air], just like spring, and yellow bile, like summer he says to be hot and dry [Fire], and black bile, like autumn, to be cold and dry [Earth].
 
 
Quantum
18:43 / 12.02.07
According to Hippocrates blood=air, black bile=earth, yellow bile=fire and phlegm=water (sez wikipedia).

Sam Hain- I was hoping we could keep this thread more didactic than most, clear and simple, aimed at people with little or no grounding in magic. Intuitions and speculation elsewhere if that's OK.

I was thinking if we encourage people to post what they consider basic grounding in magic, we'll get an interesting cross section of trads and practices. I was going to do astrology next as it happens because so much of western ceremonial magic is based on it. Kabbalah, the Tarot, loads of rituals and correspondences are derived from the zodiac so it's a vital grounding for any occultist, I think.

I'm going to add a PICS tag to the thread title too, because so many occult aide memoires are pictorial, and many things are much easier to remember with a diagram. For example, the five elements (those four above plus spirit/akasa/quintessence) are often represented by a pentagram like this;



Traditionally the fifth tip points upwards, because the top tip is where the human head would be were you to lie on a pentacle, so it symbolises humanity's dominance over the material world, contrasting with Satanic inverted pentagrams which point down to symbolise consciousness subservient to the material (e.g. in the Devil tarot arcana). Think Vitruvian Man (*note to self- cover sacred geometry & the Golden Mean/Phi);



The five points are associated with astrological signs, here's a diagram from Agrippa;



(Trivia- The Arthurian knight Gawain bears a shield with a golden five-pointed star motif, symbolizing the five knightly virtues, five joys of Mary, five wounds of Christ, five sorrowful mysteries and five joyful mysteries.
The old folk-song "Green Grow the Rushes, O!" refers to the use of the pentagram above doors and windows in the line "Five is the symbol at your door.")

I often think of the Tarot in terms of five, with the four suits as elemental fingers and the Major Arcana as the thumb, symbolising Spirit/Quintessence. Alternately pentacles as the belly/body, cups as the heart, swords as the brain and wands as the hands with the majors as consciousness or imagination.

I'm hoping that if this thread is popular enough we can revive sorceryforge a bit and generate more content for it, but at the very least have a 'back to basics' thread to point people at who ask 'What's the occult all about then?' or 'are pentangles demonic?'. The main problem will be keeping it short I think, during this post alone I realised I want to cover Pythagorean and other numerology, famous occultists, famous grimoires, basic neopagan ritual practice... we'll see.
 
 
Quantum
18:43 / 12.02.07
X-post. Also, thanks to Ev G for all the good work- keep it up!

More Pentacle trivia- This symbol apparently originated as the symbol of a Goddess who was worshiped over an area which extends from present-day England to Egypt and beyond. Her name was Kore (a.k.a. Car, Cara, Carnac, Ceres, Core, Kar, Karnak, Kaur, Kauri, Ker, Kerma, Kher, Kore, Q're, etc.). As Carmenta she was said to have invented the Roman alphabet. From her alternative Roman name Ceres have evolved many English words: cardiac, carnal, cereal, core, corn, and kernel.
Kore's sacred fruit is the apple. When an apple is cut through its equator, both halves will reveal a near-perfect pentagram shape at the core, with each point on the star containing a seed. Many Wiccans, other Neopagans and Roma (Gypsies) continue to cut apples in this way. The Roma refer to the core as the Star of Knowledge.
In ancient Greece, Pythagoras (586 - 506 BCE) established a school which pursued knowledge in mathematics, music, religion, and other specialties. Driven underground, his followers used the pentagram as a secret sign to identify themselves to each other.

So the apple core thing is double weird because Venus-the-goddess is associated with the apple, she was awarded a golden apple in the Judgment of Paris (beating out Hera and Athena which led to the Trojan War, apparently the armless Venus de Milo probably held an apple) and Venus-the-planet makes a pentacle from the p.o.v. of Earth (and Mercury makes a hexagram, linky, see also venus rose)
 
 
Blake Head
19:01 / 12.02.07
I don't want to derail the train too much here Quantum, but do you know of any magical instances where the pentagram, or sigils generally, are represented as being partially obscured (like a pentagram within a road sign, for a visual image), and if so, what are the consequences/meaning? It occurs in Gawain and I wondered if there were any other recorded instances historically or whether it was a unique thing.
 
 
Quantum
20:10 / 12.02.07
Not sure what you mean, but partially obscured symbols usually indicate esoterica or hidden mysteries- e.g. the Torah/Tarot scroll in the High Priestess' lap;



Partly obscured=mystery.
 
 
Quantum
14:59 / 15.02.07
OK, very very basic western astrology notes, more to follow;

Good site for brief overview, and here's the wikipedia Zodiac entry with a lovely picture of the signs on the ecliptic.
The zodiac the region of the celestial sphere that includes a band of eight arc degrees above and below the ecliptic, and therefore encompasses the paths of the Moon and the naked eye planets (Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn).
The zodiac is divided into 12 signs, each 30 degrees long. The cycle of zodiac signs starts with Aries, which begins at the spot on the ecliptic where the Sun is on the first day of spring. These 30 degree sections of the sky are actually blocks of space, not time.


(I'd always wondered why Aries was first and Pisces last)

When a person says, "I'm an Aries!", what they're really saying is they were born at a time of the year when the Sun is in the zodiac sign of Aries. Because our calendar is designed to mimic the motions of the Sun around the zodiac, the Sun is in Aries at nearly the same time period each year (roughly March 20th or 21st to April 19th or 20th). Hence the 12 sun signs are like months of a calendar based on the zodiac. They represent time, not space.

Pretty simple so far...

Each sign is associated with a planet that is called the "ruler" of that sign. Usually, there is some similarity in meaning or energy between the sign and its ruler. A planet is supposed to express its energy in the most natural, straight-forward fashion through the sign it rules.
Some signs (Scorpio, Aquarius, Pisces) have two rulers, an old, traditional ruler and a modern one. Since the discovery of Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto the last few centuries, these planets have replaced the traditional rulers. And with the introduction of Chiron and the major asteroids into astrology, yet-another-round of arguments about rulers is breaking out. Perhaps the entire notion of "rulership" should be taken with a grain of salt.


OK, so the signs are divided several ways. Following the elemental symbolism we've already covered, the elemental attributions are;

Fire - Aries, Leo and Sagittarius
Earth - Taurus, Virgo and Capricorn
Air - Gemini, Libra and Aquarius
Water - Cancer, Scorpio and Pisces

Then you have cardinal, fixed and mutable signs;

The four cardinal= Aries, Cancer, Libra and Capricorn
The four fixed= Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius
The four mutable= Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius and Pisces

Combine the four elements with the three quadruplicities, and we find that each of the zodiac signs has a unique combination of the two. For instance, Taurus alone is fixed earth, Sagittarius alone is mutable fire.

The sun sign birth dates are roughly changed on the 20th of the month;

Aries - March 21 - April 20
Taurus - April 21 - May 21
Gemini - May 22 - June 21
Cancer - June 22 - July 22
Leo - July 23 -August 21
Virgo - August 22 - September 23
Libra - September 24 - October 23
Scorpio - October 24 - November 22
Sagittarius - November 23 - December 22
Capricorn - December 23 - January 20
Aquarius - January 21 - February 19
Pisces - February 20- March 20

Here's a great traditional mnemonic:

The Ram, the Bull, the Heavenly Twins,
And next' the Crab, the Lion shines,
The Virgin and the Scales.
The Scorpion, Archer, and the Goat,
The Man who holds the Watering Pot,
And Fish with glittering scales.


A less poetic, but succinct and perhaps more memorable, mnemonic is the following:
The Ramble Twins Crab Liverish;
Scaly Scorpions Are Good Water Fish.


Here's the zodiac symbols;



And here's the planetary glyphs;

 
 
Quantum
16:48 / 15.02.07
(Apologies for the wikipedia-heavy linkage, my astrology is weak and a lot of other astrology sites are ugly, unreliable and full of popups)

So 'star signs' are sun signs, which sign's house the sun was when you were born (house=30 degree portion of the ecliptic). You also take into account where the other planets are when you're born (planets in astrology inc. planetary symbolism), most commonly the Moon which is associated primarily with emotions. As the moon travels through the sky relatively quickly (it spends two and a quarter to two and a third days in each sign) your moon sign is more dependent on the exact date of your birth.
In addition to the planets astrologers also place importance on lunar nodes, the house cusps including the midheaven and the ascendant, fixed stars, lots... it's a complicated business. That's for natal astrology, although you can cast a horoscope for any particular time, historical events, future dates for auspicious ceremonies or whatever.

The positions of the planets are plotted on a horoscope, a chart that looks like this;



The word "horoscope" is derived from Greek words meaning "a look at the hours" Other commonly used names for the horoscope include astrological chart, birth chart, astro-chart, celestial map, sky-map, star-chart, cosmogram, vitasphere, radical chart, radix or simply chart

In case you were wondering that first pic is calculated for January 1, 2000 at 12:01:00 A.M. Eastern Standard Time in New York City, the second pic is Harry Potter's birth chart.

The lines link the planets and stuff together, to determine the angles between them or aspects "To complete the horoscope the astrologer will consider the aspects or relative angles between pairs of planets. Certain aspects are considered more important than others. Those generally recognized by the astrological community are Conjunction (0°), Opposition (180°), Square (90°), Trine (120°), Sextile (60°), Semi-Square (45°), Sesqisquare (135°), and Quincunx (150°)."

Personally I wouldn't bother doing any of it by hand, you can get software to make your computer do it or there are free horoscope calculators available online- brief introduction to astrology and a wikipedia overview of astrological signs and stuff.

I've found the planetary correspondences and zodiacal assignations most useful from astrology, especially for understanding older magical grimoires and alchemy and such, because a lot of the old western stuff is based on it and it provides a good way to grasp the point of view and mindset of the writers. It's also nice to have a basic overview so when someone says something mystic-sounding like 'trine' or 'vitasphere' you know what the hell they're on about. For example Saturn's Return (no, not the Goldie album, that's Saturnz Return) is basically your common or garden midlife crisis- Saturn takes 29.5 years to go round the sun once and is associated with fear, doubt, difficulty and seriousness.

Anyway, hope all this is of use, I wanted to expand on what Ev G said upthread about the signs. My revision is going well, any astrologers feel free to jump in, and what shall we cover next?
 
 
EvskiG
19:57 / 15.02.07
All of this raises the question: why should a modern magician study astrology?

First, you can create natal horoscopes for people (or even entities -- corporations, countries, etc.) to attempt to get some sort of insight into their nature or motivations. The idea is, of course, that where the planets and other heavenly bodies were at the time of a given person's birth to some extent shapes or influences that person.

Second, you can compare the natal horoscopes of two or more people to predict or better understand how they'll interact, based on the positions of the planets in their respective charts.

Third, you can observe and calculate the positions and aspects of the planets (with or without using a given person's horoscope) to determine the most auspicious time to schedule an event, whether it's a ritual, a job hunt, or the like.

Do any of these actually work? I don't have much experience in the field, so others might have more to contribute here than I do.

At a minimum, though, I'd guess that, like a Rorschach test or Thematic Apperception Test, astrology gives the magician a huge number of extremely rich archetypes and concepts (the planets, the houses, etc.) to manipulate and interpret in an attempt to come to a better understanding of him- or herself and the surrounding world. In other words, like the Tarot, astrology may serve as an ideal projective test.

There are a few other uses for astrology that may be less practical but more important than the above.

First, like the classical elements noted above, you can use the traditional associations of the planets, the houses, etc. as useful shorthand or metaphors for understanding certain aspects of the environment or states of mind.

(You can be mercurial or saturnine. You might be having trouble with your email because Mercury is in retrograde, or might be dreading your Saturn return.)

Second, as Quantum notes, LOTS of magical writings, from the ancient Egyptians to Crowley, use astrological terminology. If you want to understand the attributes of Aphrodite or Ares, or the characteristics of the sephira on the Tree of Life, or why Crowley used the symbol for Saturn for heroin, astrology is good to know.
 
  
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