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Regroup, Reread, Revisibile - Volume 1 - Dead Beatles / Down and Out in Heaven and Hell / Arcadia

 
  

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15:41 / 08.02.07
PatrickMM


In the cafeteria scene, we see people playing a card game holding only two type cards, one labeled yes, the other labeled no. This perfectly sums up the Manichean worldview here, control and authority yes, individuality no. Similar in purpose is the poster with emotions, either happy or sad listed as bad, and neutral listed as good. While their goals in wanting to create a stable, safe society may be understandable, in doing so they cut out the humanity that makes society worthwhile.


The exact opposite reading of those cards applies to the Invisibles, and the exact same reading of that poster (when Tom talks about Gaelic, and how we are not our emotions, quite apart from any talk of the need for good and bad things, the meaningless of one single emotional state, blah) likewise.
 
 
unbecoming
16:35 / 09.02.07
I’d like to bring up a point about a couple of similar cameo characters that crop up in the first couple of arcs of the invisibles. The first is the guy with the long hair and funny glasses that serves as the establishing shot in Down and out in Heaven and Hell part 1.

(btw I’ve just thought that heaven and hell could be a reference to Aldous Huxley’s essay of the same name, it would seem appropriate considering the altered states of consciousness Dane experiences in this arc and their corresponding values.)

The second such character is the hitchhiker KM picks up in his car in She Man part 2. I read in the bomb wiki that the first is KM in disguise, which would seem to make sense and that the second is the blind chessman, although, to me, he puts me more in mind of KM with facial hair accessory from volume three. Both characters (or personas) have rambling spiels which concern their theories about what is going on around them which both resemble very closely the actual state of affairs outlined by the invisibles itself. However, both of these characters’ fervent narratives contain an element of the conspiracy nut which makes them somewhat hard to swallow.

These elements fit in with the theme of extra dimensional events which are perceived through different lenses and, as a result, given a different “cultural gloss”. I am more interested in why, as a reader, we are more inclined to find truth in, for example, Tom o Bedlam’s narratives over the narratives of these apparent rambling space cadets. I wonder if it is because these characters attempt to speak with an authorative tone, as if what they are saying is the unadulterated truth, whereas they only have a grasp of (at best) a small fraction of the whole picture. In contrast, Tom freely admits his ignorance and madness and offers up words only as one possible perspective of what is going on. This is made more interesting when we consider that these two characters could in fact be different incarnations of King Mob, arguably the main focus of theoretical conflict within the ongoing series.
Thoughts?
 
 
Blake Head
18:42 / 09.02.07
although, to me, he puts me more in mind of KM with facial hair accessory from volume three

King Mob from the future!!! Sorry.

Further reading of The Book of Urizen and some of the commentary suggests the entire poem can be read as a metaphor for gestation with Urizen mistaking the “womb” of his own birth out of Eternity with a self-created heaven, which is an interesting parallel to Barbelith as placenta if Urizen is a force that has mistaken the intersection between the holographic universes, particularly the unhealthy, static side, as being the whole of creation, and at one and the same time exerting control over that world and being controlled by that world’s limits / the limits (horizon) of his perspective. I’d be particularly interested if people suggested specifically religious manifestations of that control, because by the end of the series we have “guilt” as maybe the primary obstacle the characters face, and Dane especially views the struggle with guilt using positve religious imagery, but (as far as I can recall) there’s little that explicitly has religious institutions as forces of oppression, that is, their isn’t a great deal of corresponding negative religious imagery – barring Urizen’s early appearance.

Does this suggest that the Invisibles have captured some demiurge or archon in the form of Urizen

I’m not sure where that would take us, or how the Invisibles would go about capturing or controlling an archon. I took it more neutrally, that Dane is perceiving the secondary underlying reality of our world, where Urizen – related to the archons as a force of oppressive control – is represented not as an enemy but as a victim, chained Urizen as the aspect of the Archons that has fallen into self-limiting fallacy and been removed from the supercontext, in need of rebirth, to “rise from the grave of himself”.

Going back to what Benny and Velvetvandal said about class, there’s quite a lot of negative associations with class signifiers like lack of education and culture already, and Mister Six’s comment about not wanting Dane to turn into “just another blank, brutalized face, drinking beer in front of the telly.” is echoed later in King Mob’s own fears of being recuperated by the system into just another old punk. So far we’ve got the young “thugs” that Harmony House will turn into an exaggerated version of themselves, Dane’s home life or lack thereof, King Mob’s casual disregard for the lives of the paid guards, television that makes us all think the same way. You’ve also got associations with madness for Tom, Robin, and in these first issues especially Dane: he’s mad, he’s mental, he sees things, he’s in some sense special and able to access this other world because he can’t or isn’t willing to be understood by this one. I can't think of many regular, positive working class examples other than Audrey Murray at the end of the series, who Km hopes will inherit the earth, can anyone else think of any? Elfayed maybe (though he's hardly regular)?

Striking is how necessary the actions of King Mob seem: hard, cold and stylish, we aren’t presented with any alternatives for rescuing Dane. At the same time, there’s no emotion wasted on the people who get in the way, and there’s no sympathy for Dane’s friend Gaz; at this point in the series it’s a rescue mission that only applies to some people – for others it’s already too late. Which is in marked contrast to the compassion that Dane will have for Gaz later on. It's not so much that being uneducated or unreflexive is so great, but there's so far very little attempt at understanding or fellow feeling for those who are , and choices are made in a context of hurried necessity, you're either with us or you're against us or you're left behind. It's an odd mix and it is hard to see how planned it was, you have Tom teaching Dane not to kick at pigeons but these early iterations of the characters are generally much less sympathetic themselves than the later versions.
 
 
PatrickMM
18:49 / 09.02.07
these early iterations of the characters are generally much less sympathetic themselves than the later versions.

Definitely, and that's one of the tough things about the reread, you have to adjust to a less evolved morality. I could never look at the Harmony House rescue sequence the same way after reading 'Best Man Fall.' I think Grant's goal is to gradually adjust you to the idea that these other points of view might have merit, then hammer it home with 'Best Man Fall,' a complete reversal of everything we've experienced so far.

As for the crazy preacher guys, I think the critical element there is the way they define themselves by the other, the 'them.' Mad Tom may exist in the same world that these people do, but he's able to seperate from the oppressive forces and assert his own identity. His is a positive growth away from the system, while those two guys define themselves entirely by the system. There was a lot of that kind of conspiracy talk in the 90s, and you get the sense that they actually love the fact that the government is doing these things because it gives them purpose.

As the series progresses, the point becomes clear that we have to move beyond the us/them dichotomy, Tom has done that, but these guys are still defined by their enemies, obsessed with them, much like Sir Miles becomes obsessed with The Invisibles later on.
 
 
unbecoming
19:21 / 09.02.07
i have to say that i agree with benny the ball w/regards to the class issue: it certainly seems like an exaggerated set up espescially when the sympathetic characters of the homeless are pitted against the fox hunting toffs.

of course this too is reversed when it is revealed that spiky haired Kate is working for Sir Miles.
 
 
PatrickMM
19:58 / 09.02.07
The exact opposite reading of those cards applies to the Invisibles, and the exact same reading of that poster (when Tom talks about Gaelic, and how we are not our emotions, quite apart from any talk of the need for good and bad things, the meaningless of one single emotional state, blah) likewise.

I haven't reread the fourth issue yet, so I'm not fresh on that Tom speech, but I think the end of the third issue, where he forces Dane to get in touch with his deeper pain and emotion would go against that opposite reading. Though, you could say that Tom was forcing Dane to confront that emotion so he could then evolve beyond it to the blank, supercontext state. That ties into the central idea of the series, that we have to go through all this bad stuff so that we can evolve beyond it. I don't think it's a coincidence that Dane experience a white page after going through Tom's assault, the same image used to represent the supercontext at the end of the series.
 
 
PatrickMM
20:04 / 09.02.07
I suppose what I'm grasping at is, do you think George saw the story as being this simplistic at this point or do we take it that he is rather leading the reader down a blind alley?

As someone mentioned earlier, Dane is the viewpoint character for our introduction to the story and we see the events through his eyes, which at first are not very evolved. So, we're meant to share his joy and awe as King Mob blows up and kills things. It's tough to say for sure whether Grant always meant to do the breakdown of dualism thing, the first issue doesn't reveal much about it.

The best way to get a definitive answer would probably be to find out whether Grant always intended to do 'Best Man Fall,' or if it just came to hiim at some point, and he incorporated what was already in the first issue into it. Anyone know?
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
09:59 / 10.02.07
Don't forget that the Golden Age Invisibles are all well-off, Edie, Freddie and Queen Mab appear to be from titled families of the same class as Sir Miles. Percy Shelley and Lord Byron were fairly posh too.

The general opinion on KMs hitchhiker has always been that he's the blind chessman. I've always been dubious because if he is then it's the one time we're aware of him in the story where he doesn't look like a tall, thin, white, blind guy with longish black hair. He also offers King Mob biscuits rather than an apple. There is however the last shot of him under the streetlight all in shadow, and KM goes "ha!" as if he recognises him. It's never picked up on.
 
 
Mario
12:02 / 10.02.07
What if the hitchhiker is a post-supercontext King Mob?
 
 
gridley
15:25 / 10.02.07
I can't think of many regular, positive working class examples other than Audrey Murray at the end of the series, who Km hopes will inherit the earth, can anyone else think of any?

Perhaps Jack and George, Six's pals in Division X.
 
 
unbecoming
19:44 / 10.02.07
Don't forget that the Golden Age Invisibles are all well-off, Edie, Freddie and Queen Mab appear to be from titled families of the same class as Sir Miles. Percy Shelley and Lord Byron were fairly posh too.

Though the original King Mob doesn't fit this rule but this is exceptional and mentioned in the text. Also, desade or thomas aren't depicted as being particularly well off
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:19 / 10.02.07
I don't mean to state the obvious, but de Sade is a Marquis. Quite famous for it. If by Thomas you mean Mad Tom, he is the faultlessly posh Frederick Seaton. There's an interesting strain of class going on throughout the Invisibles, but I don't know how appropriate an arc-by-arc rereading is an appropriate place to run through that.
 
 
A beautiful tunnel of ghosts
21:26 / 10.02.07
PartickMM: Next, Dane is menaced by the first appearance of an Archon in the series.

I'd always understood that character to be Jack Frost; he reappears later when Dane uses his powers against either Sir Miles in London or the detectives in Liverpool.
 
 
This Sunday
22:50 / 10.02.07
I kinda assumed Jack Frost was both avatar-esque and archon, though. It's the condensation of Dane's fears and strengths all at once, the engram of his socio-politico-generational angst and stuff. Which is what an archon is, often enough.
 
 
unbecoming
01:43 / 11.02.07
I don't mean to state the obvious, but de Sade is a Marquis. Quite famous for it. If by Thomas you mean Mad Tom, he is the faultlessly posh Frederick Seaton. There's an interesting strain of class going on throughout the Invisibles, but I don't know how appropriate an arc-by-arc rereading is an appropriate place to run through that.

you're right about the marquis. Not Tom o Bedlam, i meant the bloke who recieves the invisibles in revolution france... i thought he was called thomas but now i can't find his name.
 
 
iamus
03:09 / 11.02.07
I kinda assumed Jack Frost was both avatar-esque and archon, though. It's the condensation of Dane's fears and strengths all at once

That's always been my reading. Dane doesn't feel he connects or relates at all to the world around him, which he percieves as unfeeling and uncaring. He's really a super-sensitive and loving person (he's a buddah) but everything in his surrounding environment conspires against him expressing this. He builds up his "Jack Frost" armor as a way of shielding himself against the world, freezing up all his emotions and biting back at the world before it gets a chance to bite him. It helps him survive, but it's also suffocating him and drastically limiting his potential. (Tying into what Satan says to him during their walk on the other side of the mirror, it's his "Ego Scaffolding" that must be husked after serving its purpose in growth.)

All the time Tom spends with Dane is spent trying to do just that. Tom shows him how personality and perspective defines the world you live in. "Dane McGowan" can only be "Dane McGowan" because of the circumstances he's lived in up until now.

Dane's now in an even more socially-deprived situation than he ever was before, but Tom shows him that simply looking at things in the right light reveals the beauty and truth and magic that's there all the time. Shorn of every social artifice, living hand-to-mouth, you can appreciate that turning a tenner into a bag of chips is some of the most effective and useful base magic there is. Everything else he's known so far is compexification over and above this. His reality is not True Reality.

Dead Beatles/Down and Out is the whole story in miniature. Through its run, The Invisibles is, at the centre, the story of Dane being pulled out from all the sound and fury of the spectacle and being shown his true nature. Tom starts it here and it finishes when the sentence is up.
 
 
iamus
03:24 / 11.02.07
I think Grant's goal is to gradually adjust you to the idea that these other points of view might have merit, then hammer it home with 'Best Man Fall,' a complete reversal of everything we've experienced so far.

Well, by the end of the series what we're being told is that all viewpoints are equal viewpoints. There is no good or evil. Protagonists are defined by their antagonists. The Invisibles are, in a pretty literal sense, everything they are fighting against. When you set yourself up as standing for something, you automatically define what you are not standing for.

That's the trick that allows engagement with the game. It's a careful and clever segue throughout the series that takes you from those two viewpoints. In the end though, The Invisibles aren't the heros and The Archons ain't the baddies. The Dalang's the man.
 
 
Corey Waits
07:46 / 11.02.07
Decrescent Daytripper - I kinda assumed Jack Frost was both avatar-esque and archon, though. It's the condensation of Dane's fears and strengths all at once, the engram of his socio-politico-generational angst and stuff. Which is what an archon is, often enough.

Perhaps yes, but I think it is confusing to refer to Jack Frost as an archon (little 'a') when we are also discussing the King in Chains and the King of all Tears who are Archons (big 'A'). So yes, Jack Frost does taunt Dane directly after the 'Dead Beatles' scene, but this has little-or-nothing to do with any Outer Church interference, and is merely Jack Frost attempting to awaken Dane to his true potential - a job which is better left to the gentler Tom.

PatrickMM - Next, Dane is menaced by the first appearance of [Jack Frost] in the series. In this case, [Jack Frost] has much in common with the guilt monster we saw in Shining Knight #2.

So, whilst I think we are in fact talking about Jack Frost - Dane's avatar and protector - and not one of the Kings of the Earth, the idea that Jack Frost can see Dane's future and thus pushes him towards Harmony House (knowing that it will be an important step along his journey to buddha-hood) is an interesting idea, and something I'd never considered before... Especially as the Jack Frost construct is all but forgotten after Volume 1 (forgotten or absorbed?).
 
 
PatrickMM
18:41 / 12.02.07
So, are we moving onto Arcadia in this thread, or starting a new one? Either way, there's plenty to talk about there.
 
 
Blake Head
18:49 / 12.02.07
Moving onto Arcadia here I think. More in a bit.
 
 
PatrickMM
23:55 / 12.02.07
Here's some stuff on the first issue of Arcadia:

Arcadia is a critical arc in the series’ run, introducing us to the characters within the cell and giving the reader a look at a ‘typical’ Invisibles mission. It also contains all the information you need to understand the rest of the series, right through the final issue, though on the initial read, that is far from apparent. It always surprises me to go back and see just how much is laid out here, things you could never pick up on the first go around, but see glaringly obvious on the reread. That’s part of what makes the series so rewarding, each time you play the game, it’s a little different.

The first page contains an explanation for virtually everything that happens in the series. The thematic grounding is all here, but it’s not until we’ve been through the series that we can understand the deeper meaning. The two sides are one, they only think that they are different. Does that make Grant the Dalang? While he has done the overt metafiction route in Animal Man, I don’t think that’s the intention here.

In the cosmology of The Invisibles, there are characters who exist outside of time, aware of the overall needs of the universe, and act to ensure that events occur as they should. John a Dreams is the most notable example of this, a character who transcends the Manichean reality and takes on a variety of guises to bring humanity into the supercontext. He plays both sides, inhabiting roles like a puppeteer, but all those suits he adopts have the same core. Barbelith, and the aliens that Dane sees, serve a similar function. They are beyond the conflict, aware of its false nature, and as a result able to make sure that we “laugh and cry,” as needed. The emotions we feel are real even though the conflict is an illusion.

And, that said, you can also read it as a comment on Grant himself. All these characters are drawn from his mind, just ink on a page, but they can make us laugh and cry. As Dane learned in the previous arc, the distinction between dream and reality is nebulous and unimportant, because these fictional characters make an impact on real people, they have a measure of reality themselves.

The initial conversation between Byron and Shelley further explores Grant’s role as author of the series. Shelley says “As poets, it is our duty to turn our faces from the mire, to look up and tell our fellow men that we have seen a better world than this.” That’s exactly what Grant is doing with the series, drawing “the maps of this new world , so that others may find their way there.” Grant is justifying the role of the writer in society, claiming that fiction can provide new models for behavior. This is why he writes superhero comics, through writing about the next generation of humans, he is able to provide the model for the new world we will eventually inherit. “A cannon fires only once but words detonate across centuries,” a sentiment Grant himself expressed when talking about how fictional characters like Superman outlive their creators.

The first time I read this arc, I remember being impatient with the Byron/Shelley sequences, this time I found them riveting. Once you’re grounded in the philosophy Grant is exploring here, it’s a lot easier to understand and enjoy their debate. I think one of the reasons this arc made a lot of people drop the book is that it’s functioning primarily on a higher level than the reader is at on their first journey through the series. ‘Down and Out in Heaven and Hell’ suffers some on the reread because we already know all the points that Tom is making. Here, I’m still trying to process everything, and there’s new layers on each read. It’s the most complex storyline Grant will attempt until Volume III, and without the promise of explanations to come, it could be tough to take. But I’m glad he wrote Arcadia as he did, it intrigued me on the first read and is still revealing new details as I continue forward.

One thing I find curious is the guy who says that King Mob is Christian. Is he referring to the fact that he’s from a Christian country, and maybe has a family background in Christianity, or is KM actually a practicing Christian? Nothing in the rest of the series would indicate that he is, but I suppose it’s possible.

The dialogue between Boy and Dane is full of interesting thematic stuff, the shadow motif in the art mimics the Dalang speech earlier, and their discussion reveals a lot about the mindset of the people in the cell vs. Dane. The cell seems to have accepted wholeheartedly what they’ve been told about the nature of the fight and their role in. There is this vast dark evil, the forces that want to control peoples’ lives, but nobody gives Dane a straight answer about who they are. This is because they’re not really sure, for most of the cells, it is the war that defines them, not the end. They are trapped in the role of rebel in the same way that Dane was at the beginning of the series.

The reason Dane is so critical is because he’s the only who’s able to see outside the game. As he goes through and gets more training, he’ll evolve beyond the conflict, and use his powers to help both sides. At the end of the scene, Jack asks Boy how he knows he’s joined the right side, if there’s so many deep cover agents. This line has much significance. On one level, it reinforces the lack of distinction between the Invisibles and their enemies, the arbitrarily chosen sides that are actually the same. However, it’s also a great bit of foreshadowing, since we’ll eventually find out that Boy is in fact a triple agent, working for an Invisibles cell who set her up with the enemy, who then implanted her in another cell. At that point, identity breaks down and loyalty becomes meaningless. Boy is just a pawn in this overall conflict, and by joining up and fighting, she has lost agency.

Does this mean that we should not fight? Not exactly, I think it means choosing a third path. Much of Seven Soldiers was concerned with breaking out of the oppressive tradition of ones parents and defining a role outside strict parameters of good/evil. I hadn’t connected that with what was going on here, but it fits perfectly. The characters are trapped in a tradition of fighting that goes all the way back to the 1700s, but some of the ideological interests have been lost, the present day Invisibles are not poets, their warriors, fighting with their fists, not their words. Dane is the only one who’s outside of things and able to question their actions.

King Mob hops through the dimensional shortcut, a moment that feels a bit showoffy to me. I think most of the series is grounded in a somewhat believable magick reality. While you may not be able to project yourself into eighteenth century France, it is possible to use similar techniques as the crew does here and move into a thought based facsimile of eighteenth century France. Of course, as Mad Tom tells us, there is no difference between the reality of a thing and the dream of it, so you can really travel in that way. But, you can’t move your physical body through a nuclear wasteland to get from India to England. Going to The Invisible College works fine in arcs where it’s motivated by a catalyst that ruptures the space-time continuum, such as Dane taking the blue mold, but here it just happens because it can, and that feels a bit removed from believability. But, I feel like it’s an example of Grant defining the rules of the world, using devices that won’t necessarily return later in the series.

Back with the cell, we start to get an idea of the characters’ personalities. Fanny is pretty well defined, though a bit harsh. I suppose we’re seeing things from Jack’s perspective, and he hasn’t really warmed to her, so neither have we. And I have to question the fashion choice with that dress, is it a deliberately ironic adoption of 50s femininity or just outdated? I don’t know, but either way, she isn’t at her Volume II level of glam. Robin isn’t defined yet, and Morrison struggles with her until she gets reinvented in Volume II. Boy is pretty much like she will be right from the start here.

The moment when King Mob returns and takes off his coat with a checkerboard and random patterns in the background is one of the first examples of the series valuing image over narrative sense. They could have had him against a regular background, but having the shapes is cooler, and therefore it was a good choice to include it. I think Jill Thompson’s art is a big improvement over Steve Yeowell. She conveys the characters’ emotions better, and is aesthetically superior. She defines the look of these characters for the rest of the volume.

The crew then goes to a windmill to travel through time. The first time I read this I was sort of confused on the nature of their time travel, and how it was different from Ragged Robin’s time travel in Volume II. Reading the series prompted me to explore various types of magic, and this one is closest to astral projection. In reality, I don’t think you’d be able to work as quickly or get such flashy results as they do here, but similar things can be done. That’s another example of how the series serves to reshape the reader into an Invisible.

The Shelley stuff ends with a guy saying that he has been in chains all his life, but no one else could see them. This Is a perfect thematic summary of what The Invisibles are trying to do, open peoples’ eyes and expose them to the potential of humanity. We are all trapped by our stubborn clinging to individuality, and should we transcend that, we would be free to move to a higher plane of existence.
 
 
penitentvandal
10:25 / 13.02.07
I can't think of many regular, positive working class examples other than Audrey Murray at the end of the series, who Km hopes will inherit the earth, can anyone else think of any?

Jim Crow I would say is working class - the money that pays for his funky hearse and his Live and Let Die style Chicago stronghold has come from his rap career, rather than any inheritance. The woman who summons him, also, is clearly working class, and Jolly Roger grew up in a trailer park - she talks about blowing up her daddy's trailer (which is an interesting corollary to Mason's house blowing up). King Mob is a Polish immigrant kid who gets rich from publishing horror novels (much as Mr Six pays for his Bentley by writing 'racy novels', though I think that's more of a Jason King reference). Sutton is a domestic servant. Fanny grew up in a barrio in Brazil, and refers to herself as 'shit-eating poor.' Boy and Oscar were both beat cops, not generally a toff's occupation. Generally I think there's actually quite a lot of working class characters in the Invisibles.

There's something interesting in that two of the richest characters - Tom and Mason - both wind up homeless drifters (though Mason is getting a new house built, of course, suggesting he hasn't moved beyond material things in the way Tom has). Class, again, is part of the suit, part of how you define yourself. It's interesting that, aside from Mason, all the upper clarse characters in the series are English, and that class in that series perhaps has less to do with money than one would suppose*. The Marquis, as Haus points out, is a member of the nobility, but aligns himself with the sans-culottes and peasants of the French Revolution. Sutton, most people would say, is in a higher social bracket than Bobby Murray, even though, essentially, they're the same: servants of the rulers. Indeed, the betrayal of Sutton by his daughter is based partly on her telling him he is in fact 'low class', a shocking realisation for a man who imagines a kinship with the Secret Future King of Earth.

I think class is definitely something that would be more important to the Outer Church, though, as it fits their ideas of the status quo, keeping people in their place. Arguably this is one thing Harmony House is about, keeping the proles down by removing their testosterone and intellect, removing their drive and ability to succeed.

One theme in the Invisibles is people leaving behind what used to define their identity. Dane leaves Liverpool, visits New York and the Chrysler building and hangs around in Mason's sumptuous surroundings; Tom goes from Bright Young Thing to a beggar on the streets of London but, in the process, becomes the greatest magician in the history of his species and achieves enlightenment. The tragedy of Sir Miles is he never transcends his class position, dying with the Eton rowing song still on his lips.

even if Dane was a bit of an ass and the judge who condemns him relatively sober-faced

That judge is almost a ringer for the 'good' face in Harmony House, isn't he? For me, this reread has been all about the emotional side of the series, and the scary thing about that judge is the disconnect between what he says, which sounds quite angry and raging, and his expression, which is so neutral. He's divorced from what he says, rigid and unemotional, as scary a monster in his own way as Gelt and the King-in-Chains later.

*Fairly Obvious Things to Say about English Society #1723
 
 
Blake Head
15:11 / 13.02.07
[Sorry, I was working on this when I fucked up my keyboard, so it’s a little less edited and more repetitive of Patrick’s points than it would be otherwise, I don’t have a great deal of time on this pc so I’ll be back to engage with specific points when I get the chance.]

Well, moving onto Arcadia:

The bloke in France was called Etienne.

I love that the art (which we’ve not talked about much yet) in the pages where Boy is teaching Dane to fight makes such use of shadows immediately after we’ve had the introduction to shadow puppetry as a form of false conflict; it would of course be impossible to tell the difference between real and fake violence were one only able to look at the shadows. The naivety of some of Boy’s responses to Dane’s questions are either Morrison finding his feet or designed to show that Boy, or the cell, have a fairly credulous foundation for their war on authority. “We’re fighting the other side; the forces that want to control people’s lives and keep us asleep forever” goes deep into Matrix Warrior territory, while refusing to actually name an organisation or individuals or define their reasoning. Even when Dane just wants to know who the baddies are, Fanny tells him about the Myrmidons, and then in a bit you have the Cyphermen who are almost characterless, and faceless in a related way to Orlando. You even have the Archons lacking a distinct personality or motives, other than a basic mask of attributes. Setting up the conflict as a duality, fighting those they are opposed to, opposition becomes a condition dependent on remembering your side, not what you stand for, and it’s exactly what iamus highlights above: the invisibles are or become everything they are fighting against.

In Byron and Shelley we’ve got the first formulation of the struggle between the ideals of a perfect world for everyone and everyone getting their own perfect world (and the inkling that those might be the same thing), and within that another quieter theme of the series regarding whether bloody revolutionary action is more useful or more beneficial than leaving the current world as it is, letting it develop as it will.

Shelley’s comment on forgetting one’s own divinity, where "we forget who made our burden and set it upon us" is quite literally the condition Urizen is in, this coming just a panel before the Blake quote on “mind forg’d manacles”. The madman the pair meet later will repeat this idea of ghostly spiritual chains whose movement simulates art, or whose imagining simulates imprisonment. I’m getting interested in what the theme of false imprisonment and mental oppression actually translates into in real life. It’s a question I think we’ll find again and again, but, what does it mean (in the Invisibles) to be imprisoned by oneself? If it framed in terms of a fall from grace, it begs the questions of why fall? Fair enough we make institutions to protect us when we’re not powerful ourselves, but I think it’s worth questioning the way the comic presents individuals, and which ones, shutting that larger and truer reality out. A key theme of Blake’s was that both pity and tyranny arise out of believing oneself to be better than others, forms of looking down on them, and indeed that one leads to the other, which I think you see in some of the attitudes towards the “unawakened” ones. So at least part of what’s being said seems to be that by limiting oneself, one accepts a place in a hierarchy, and from within a hierarchy there’s a difference between wanting to raise others up within it and helping them develop the tools for escaping from their prisons, and as in the examples above I suppose it’s less a condition of a fixed idea of class than it is one of class mobility. It’s ok to be have a class origin if you transcend it, move beyond it, recognise it for what it is: a temporary construct. There are numerous examples of people who occupy class based “suits”, like the Division X lads, but less of positive examples of those who would appear to remain within a fixed identity. The two other examples I’m thinking of now are King Mob’s ex and, later on, Boy. So to be fair I’m not so much talking about class now as a division between those who are awake to the revolution and those that are “regular” for want of a better term. But at the same time, I think there’s almost a sense of pity for those who aren’t able to do that, who’re stuck in the suits they were born with, the soil that they grew up in.

Which, in a roundabout and possibly not very precise way brings us to the political aspect of whatever it is the Invisibles stand for. On a personal level, recognising one’s demons/fears as the bits of not-you is fine, but that act of recognition is itself dependent on creating the space and conditions for such reflection, which some people never get on their own, Gaz for one, so really what I’m asking is what that does that philosophy mean on an interpersonal level? What makes this evolved awareness possible; is it personal responsibility, an interpersonal transmission of better karmic ways to treat others, or is it politically revolutionary? And what sort of attitude is to be adopted to those who aren't given the chance, or choose not to accept enlightenment? Which I think is very much relevant to the incoherent idea of a world where everyone gets what they want, because the very first problem with that of course is that it would mean some people wanting others, directly or indirectly, to not get what they want, so there’s always going to be a hierarchy of wants. Meaning: exactly what kind of utopia are we talking about and who does it belong to and rely upon?

Interesting that King Mob is, accurately or otherwise, addressed as a Christian by Agus, even as one with many gods.

The “stage” of 120 Days of Sod All, the place where those in attendance are in chains, are themselves in a world whose boundaries are defined by others, repeats the above themes, and continues to develop the idea of the Invisibles as revealing “exits”. Christ is mentioned by the young couple in the context of finding an escape, then repudiated. An alternate reading would be that the Christ the actors name refers to the aspect of Christianity as a religion which is oppressive, which convinces its believers to be smaller than they really are; the idea of praying to a “deaf and blind god” would fit with the above reading of an embryonic demiurge who’s world of reason. The idea that “reason will make mother nature a whore bound for our pleasure” within the tint of this story suggests that oppression in this era is specifically characterised by an imbalance between reason and other human forces. Reason as something that mistakes this world for a perfect or perfectible one again.

Interesting that the gimp who sums up the real life cost of revolution as ”from free love to safe sex” and who King Mob criticises for his lack of taking responsibility in the revolutionary conflict, does, in fact, have his own perfect world. From believing in what he was told revolution was, and failing to change the world, he is now in a world where his speech and movement is controlled by others in a self-chosen environment where he has attained the level of responsibility he must have been looking for. Which is a less extreme version of the Cyphermen who want to hear nothing but instructions and commands and do.

In terms of the arc’s conclusion, Byron and Robin recognise that utopias are things that can be left to one side, that life comes first, while Shelley and King Mob maintain that a blueprint needs to be constructed and that the utopia must be built if the sun is to rise on a better world. Also, the “This is the Invisibles… weird stuff happens all the time” paranoid sci-fi conspiracy vibe faces off to the real life consequences of Jack losing some of his finger and getting off the revolutionary bus.

What I think I like most about these issues is the humour, both in the asides and the expressions, as the premise, or the mix of the two settings, is heavily in need of levity; King Mob looks endearingly human at this point, he looks like someone you might know, even if his features haven’t quite stabilised yet. A point that’s maybe easy to miss with this analysis is how charming the comic can be, especially when it’s willing to poke fun at itself.

I like these issues, though as has been pointed out they’re derivative in some ways. I think you can make the argument that this arc still contains most of the basic ideas of the series as a basic holograph, seen through the filter of the historical interaction between Romanticism and the Age of Reason and their real-life political consequences. It’s certainly understandable why these issues feel almost tangential to what’s really going on, but that’s also mirrored in a work which seems full of unanswered questions about what is relevant, what the struggle should be about, and in those terms the story of the Shelleys’ art and life doesn’t seem any more or less valid than time-travel jaunts and fighting gas-mask goons with dream guns, just another iteration on a theme or gaming environment.

The balancing act of the Invisibles as a “revolutionary comic”, as I believe it was so titled recently, with the theme characterised by the Blind Chessman as “Radical reformers must never forget the price that is so often paid by those who seek to change the world”, is much more evident and impressive on a second reading. It gets to the point of how much the visions of freedom cost, and how the questionable the methods of achieving them are, which will be picked up again and again as we continue.
 
 
PatrickMM
01:56 / 14.02.07
Over on the Pah! blog, there's a really great, in depth look at Arcadia, and, considering that Arcadia is the whole series in microcosm, it covers most of the series as a whole.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
13:31 / 14.02.07
velvetvandal: That judge is almost a ringer for the 'good' face in Harmony House, isn't he? For me, this reread has been all about the emotional side of the series, and the scary thing about that judge is the disconnect between what he says, which sounds quite angry and raging, and his expression, which is so neutral. He's divorced from what he says, rigid and unemotional, as scary a monster in his own way as Gelt and the King-in-Chains later.

I don't think the judge is angry as he makes that speech. It's the way he talks about 'acceptable rebellion' (haven't got the issue in front of me), the Outer Church have budgeted for kids to want to fuck some small level of shit up, the world has perfumes called anarchy, but when they are so unruly as to threaten to burn the jail down around them then the forces of law and order must intervene.
 
 
PatrickMM
04:03 / 15.02.07
Here's some stuff on issue six.

‘Mysteries of the Guillotine’ is the least dense issue of the Arcadia arc, moving the plot forward, and reinforcing some thematic points, but it’s not as mindblowing as the other issues in the arc.

The opening pages show the way that the peasants have to come to ascribe the qualities of a god to the guillotine. It is the thing that will bring them liberty, and they worship it as such. This connects what we saw in ‘Down and Out in Heaven and Hell,’ the way that objects can be infused with power from belief.

I’ve always loved King Mob’s like, “Christ! I always forget just how bad the past smells,” which is both very funny and likely very accurate. In this issue, we get further evidence of the King Mob mythos, the building of this ultracool assassin figure. He’s got a great outfit, the black shirt with odd rings, and goes around taking down the cyphermen in a nasty, cool way. This is where he starts down the path to his eventual Volume II immersion, then liberation from the lure of gun violence cool.

Etienne exists mostly to provide exposition, but it is interesting to see what the Invisibles were like back in the 1700s. He’s doing a spell in the same way that the present day cell was just last issue, the times may have changed, but the core values persist. Etienne also drops the first mention of the idea that “All times are present together,” a concept that will become central to the series as it processes.

Again, this issue reinforces Dane’s separation from the group. He feels sick, unable to deal with what is commonplace to the others. The obvious explanation for this is that it’s his first travel through time, but I think it’s also exemplary of the fact that he doesn’t just buy into the mission the way the others do. He has more qualms about what they’re doing, and that manifests in his physical illness.

The most interesting scene in the issue is the first appearance of Satan a.k.a the Blind Chessman a.k.a John a Dreams. He moves through time, appearing at the moment he is needed to make people do certain things to ensure that things move as they should. Later on, that means revealing the true nature of the universe to Jack, here it means planting certain ideas in Mary Shelley’s head. We also find out that The Invisibles are thought to have been behind the revolutions in France and America. It’s likely not coincidence that Satan was there at the time.

As the scene ends, he remarks that “reformers must never forget the price that is so often paid by those who seek to change the world.” One reading of this is a comment on the trials that King Mob and his crew will go through over the course of the series, it also works as a comment on the mass murders going on elsewhere in this issue. But, the most interesting reading is in the context of the John a Dreams story. This is such a complex, time spanning story, it’s hard to comprehend. The way I see it, John was committed to the mission of The Invisibles, and he reached out, like Prometheus, into something new, something belonging to the gods. The price he had to pay for this was the loss of his individuality, of his place in the game. By moving out of the game, he becomes aware of the illusion that is his life, and rather than having the illusion of agency, he takes on a number of guises to ensure that specific results happen as they should. This guise is just one of many we see throughout the series.

Morrison’s De Sade is a fun character. I like his desire to return to ‘the furnace of generation.’ The cyphermen offer him the chance to transcend all societal taboos, but as we find out, that offer is actually an illusion, they wish to entrance him and claim his desire for their own. Luckily, King Mob is there to save him and does so in a well executed action sequence. My favorite De Sade quote is “By fuck, citizen! I’ll hurry for no man!”

The issue ends with everyone thrown into chaos. King Mob, Boy and De Sade are trapped in the painting, and Jack is soon to be preyed upon by Orlando, who may be another form of John a Dreams. I remember that being debated, but never heard a clear answer. The white suit is the obvious connection, but you could see John a Dreams in everyone, because everything the characters do has a role in moving things toward the supercontext.
 
 
penitentvandal
08:52 / 15.02.07
I don't think the judge is angry as he says there.

That's sort of my point. Some of what he says, like 'wiping the smiles from their faces', etc, sounds quite aggressive, you'd expect the guy to have some emotional investment in it. But he doesn't. He's saying this stuff in a neutral way, like he's playing a role (which he is, of course - the judge's robes are just his suit, they're not him). He's saying what's expected of a judge in this situation, but he has no commitment to it.



It's the way he talks about 'acceptable rebellion' (haven't got the issue in front of me), the Outer Church have budgeted for kids to want to fuck some small level of shit up, the world has perfumes called anarchy, but when they are so unruly as to threaten to burn the jail down around them then the forces of law and order must intervene.

That is interesting, and I hadn't picked up on that, but it relates to what Tom says to Dane later in the arc: that he'll fuck shit up for a while, then 'screw some tart and raise more robots'. Dane's rebellion as a Liverpool street thug, twoccing cars, dropping pills and burning down the library, are all things the Outer Church is prepared for and can recuperate. But Dane has the potential to rebel in a more profound way, which is what gets both sides so interested in him.
 
 
Seth
09:55 / 15.02.07
Theft of Vehicle is a different offense to Taking WithOut Consent. By disabling the alarm and breaking in it's definitely in the theft category.

I get a lot of people commenting to the tune of 'acceptable levels of rebellion' at work, both from colleagues and callers. I always feel like saying that it's a contradiction in terms, that if it's acceptable to the people being rebelled against then it can't be rebellion.
 
 
raggedman
12:16 / 15.02.07
The judges speech here mirrors the judge in Fall Out at the end of 60's superspy series The Prisoner.
At work so having difficulty surreptitously finding the script but it's to the effect of'it's all well and good for a young man to kick against the pricks a bit but then it's time to grow up and conform'

I always saw Dane's sickness as his 'powers' kicking in. His buddha self knows that leaving his body unconcious and defenceless is not a good idea at this time and is trying to wake him up, drag him back, force the others to abandon the mission.
 
 
PatrickMM
05:01 / 22.02.07
Anyone else still rereading? I've been working through each issue on my blog, up through Royal Monsters now. Here's a link to the whole series of posts. If other people are still reading, bring up some points here on the thread, maybe less on the analytical side and more just on impressions, how the issues feel after all this time.
 
 
gravitybitch
20:32 / 24.02.07
I was just going to ask if it was a good time to start a new thread.

Consider this to be a bump.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
14:23 / 25.02.07
Discussions about how this whole rereading malarky is done over here please. I would only suggest that some attempt is made to see if anyone is actually bothering with this any more before any more threads are started.
 
 
This Sunday
14:32 / 26.10.08
So, I'm rereading the whole damn thing because why not, and a nice, unobstrusive and meaningful paralleling jumped out at me:

In the first issue, the last page of the Lennon invoking and the next page of Big Malkie and Dane (pages 26 and 27 in tpb) there's the mid-level sideviews of the lennonhead and Dane's teacher, but the lower run of panels on both pages, middle panel, the glowing eyes of Lennon and the forchrissakesdude look on the former/later/forever Mr Six. Final panel is the apple/here is knowledge, and on the next page, Six trying to impart some wisdom to Dane.
 
 
huckleberry glove soup
16:36 / 26.10.08
There are times I wish I didn't seed the field by giving away my books but:

In V1, I always took the hitchhiker to be an incarnation of Christ. His ultimate goal may be to spread enlightenment/access to his father's kingdom but he always takes the actions of those in power rather personally...

I know he's ranting about conspiracies to KM, I'm just having trouble recalling the exact exchange.

My two cents...
 
  

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