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~Does GOD matter??!??~

 
 
Robot Man Reformed
11:59 / 23.03.02
Hello.

Hi.

How's your day been?

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A couple of source links:

Are We The Children of Star Gods?

Which won't concince you of the scholarly might of Zecharia Sitchin if he hasn't in the past.

quote:Sample line:

Origins Of Religion
Who or what is God(s)? Every religion seeks to answer that question in its own way, yet those that dominate the religious views of most earthlings share common threads such as monotheism, the belief in only one God.

The Sacred Writings of the World's Great Religions
S. E. Frost, Jr., B.D., Ph.D.
1943, P6
A careful study of any religion will reveal how it has changed as the life of the people has changed. It is natural, then, that each religion should take on the characteristics of the people around whose culture it developed. The surprising thing is that the world's living religions are so much alike in many respects. Considering the great diversity of cultural developments throughout the world, it is a wonder that the religions of mankind are at all alike.
The primary reason for this widespread similarity is that the world’s religions can all be traced back to earlier sources. The earliest such source comes from the ancient Sumerian culture, which was the first civilization on Earth.


And this link which I have brought in its entirety over at the "We be close" thread.

Basically, I have always been against the idea of worshipping a symbolized version of GOD, as the modern religions of today claim we must.

Basically, I have always been reluctant to take a stance in what is the core of most religions, if not all: that there are mysterious forces abound, that there is much more than we could concievably think of. Even though my life has had its share of strange going ons, I could always conveniently shy away from a direct confrontation with a slew of uneasy, unanswered questions, however how much I have been flirting with these issues. I had to flirt with these issues, me and Laila have a map that has been unfailing.

But GOD???

A friend of mine who has a twisted view of christianity has always said that I just have to trust in GOD and all will be fine, and that all my problems, all my doubts just served to make matters worse.

How could I not doubt??? I do not shop for easy answers, and I'll 'happily' endure torture of alien thoughts just to gain new insight.

GOD.

And, bang!!! Laila provided another of her automatic writings as a reaction to the latter link:

“The overall changes could essentially be broken down intothree categories: Energy field changes, luminosity changes,and atmospheric changes”

Its not only that the planet is feeling these changes , we the people, the animals and nature are all reacting to this change.
Why do you guys think we have all these people dreaming and seeing things, why do you guys think we all of a sudden are seemingly becoming psychic? Why do you think that the people have become so sensitive? I tell you why;

“And this means that the Solar System itself is moving into an area where the energy is more highly charged. That higher-charged energy is in turn exciting the plasma and causing more of it to form, so you see more luminosity, more brightness. This energy is then flowing into the Sun, which in turn emits the energy and spreads it out along its equatorial plane, which is called the Ecliptic.”

“This in turn is saturating interplanetary space, which causes the solar emissions to travel more quickly and charge up the energy on the planets.”

Remember we are one of these planets.

“And this is conscious energy that is changing how the planet works, how it functions, and what kind of life it supports. The harmonics of the DNA spiral itself are altering. That's the real, hidden cause of spontaneous mass evolutions in previous epochs of time.”

This could also be the reason why there are so many children being born with , instead of just 2 active DNA strings as most of us grownups, have up to 22 active DNA strings we have 23 DNA strings according to science. Maybe this is why children in certain parts of the world like in China and Arab nations and the Ost-block countries, are being born knowing their past lives, increasingly more psychic children with amazing abilities are being born. And maybe this is why they want to tag the children as of birth, to be able to ruin or suppress these abilities. Especially if we are talking DNA sequencing micro chips.

I know that all the people who all of a sudden can predict more sharply, see things, know all of a sudden things, would prefer to believe that some higher saint being is the cause of all, which its not, it just has to do with the planet slowly shifting, from one level to another higher level, this means that our conscious awareness is also increasing.

“what we're seeing is a lot more than just what they call Earth Changes. Some people get into the idea that there is an interaction between the Earth and the Sun that's going on here. Very, very few people are aware of the work that is being done in the Russian National Academy of Sciences in Siberia, specifically in Novosibirsk, where they are doing this research. They've come to the conclusion that the only possible thing that could be causing this energetic change all throughout the Solar System is that we are moving into an area of energy that is different - that is higher”

I think its very simple to conclude that this is the cause of us becoming more sensitive and aware, that we are having more dreams, and that more and more people all of a sudden become mediums, the doors to the other side, so to speak are slowly but surely, being opened.
This could explain all these people getting all these messages, well I will take this as a explanation for it’s the best so far I have read, since I have been looking for answers as to what has happen to me as of the eclipse of 1999 going all the way to the end of September 2000. I know that I am not crazy nor psychotic, that I do not do drugs nor drink. And thank god I have had witnesses who every time I get tired of looking, for one has to read lots, including absolute nonsense , I say, maybe it was somebody playing a trick on me? They then tell me, hello did you forget that we where there? So For now this makes the most sense so far. See I am not somebody who thinks she is special nor am I a saint, I judge immediately, and can be very hard and confronting to tender souls.
And yet all these things have happen to me and was I shown so much, not to mention all these, last years of writings, when I do not know what I write down, until I am finished and I get out of this weird mode, and believe some, if not lots, of what I wrote down was like UH? But well slowly over these last one year things are coming to pass. I know many people write amazing things down, have amazing dreams and see or ‘hear’ things, and I know that most thank god, just ask why and how come, some helas think that they all of a sudden are the chosen ones, not true, our portals are just a bit more open that the portals of others.
 
 
Robot Man Reformed
12:09 / 23.03.02
It's not revolutionary, it's been said before but I am on the verge of being convinced:

What id GOD was just creation matter??? What if GOD is not sentient as such??? What if the message that we have gotten that GOD's true form could be discovered by going all mathematics and physics on the letters GOD was true???

Does that make sense?
 
 
Robot Man Reformed
12:05 / 24.03.02
Hello? Reluctant to entertain this thought?

I did not fully write down of why I thought this.

You are energy. You being, your body, your moods, your thoughts, you doing something absolutely inane, you doing something absolutely important.

Its still not too farfetched, now is it?

As an 'empath', a Mr. or Ms. Sensitive, a psychic, one simply feels more than the average person. And while I agree with that there are some that are born into this world with extra-sensory abilities, you also have the ability. One of the major fuck-ups for the body is the mutation the body undergoes by continually ingesting food sources that are not meant for the body, and in the case of milk and dairy products, which sedates all the sensors. The scientific RRM, the one that led the 'Milk causes Osteoporosis' thread has been living off of these completely for a number of years now, and last year his extra-sensory abilities emerged.

He knew how people looked like just by reading their emails, he knew how they were as persons without having ever met them.

So you are energy, this world and all of its inhabitants is energy; hellfuck, this universe is energy.

And we, the Mr. and Ms. Sensitives of this world are linked intricately to this energy.

Perhaps this which links us is the creation matter, the GOD energy, which can be subconsciously extracted, and for sure through dreams.

Oh, and my body felt another 'emergency warning' last night, there is this frequency that comes when a further descend to where we are headed is looming. Tomorrow most likely.
 
 
netbanshee
12:56 / 24.03.02
...not really trying to engage heavy conversation from my end per se, but I've come to know "God" as process...or Tao or what ever you'd like to call it. Not sentient, directed, personified, and overall misunderstood. There is something there greater than my point of view and greater than all of ours, but can I say what it is...well no. I do have an ego at times, but I'm simply not qualified to answer this...
 
 
Robot Man Reformed
13:03 / 24.03.02
[Mutter to himself - inaudibly]

[Clears throat]

Would it help if I enticed you with swear words and Anal Juice?

quote:The basic forces of matter and the universe are astounding. They could not have come into existence by accident. There are several basic forces in nature which would destroy the universe—or not let it form—were it not for the delicate balance within each of them. Here is scientific evidence.

Cue: "Why Is There Life?" from Discover Mag, which I can't seem to find now.

quote:[URL=http://www.pathlights.com/ce_encyclopedia/01-ma10.htm#Elemental Forces]THE ELEMENTAL FORCES[/URL]
The delicate balance of three elemental ratios.

"There is another aspect of modern astronomical discoveries that is, in my view, as remarkable as the evidence for the abrupt birth of the Universe. According to the picture of the evolution of the Universe developed by the astronomer and his fellow scientists, the smallest change in any of the circumstance of the natural work, such as the relative strengths of the forces of nature or the properties of the elementary particles, would have led to a Universe in which there could be no life and no man."—*Robert Jastrow, "The Astronomer and God," in The Intellectuals Speak Out About God (1984), p. 15. [Jastrow classifies himself as an agnostic.]


[More from the site - much more]


[ 24-03-2002: Message edited by: RobotManReformed ]
 
 
Robot Man Reformed
13:08 / 24.03.02
"God Particle" Possibly Discovered

One of the most important discoveries in particle physics of the last 25 years has possibly just been made by experimentalists at CERN, the giant laboratory just outside of Geneva on the border of Switzerland and France. Scientists there think that they have discovered the Higgs field, also nicknamed the "God particle" by Nobel laureate Leon Lederman who wrote a book with that title. If the result is verified, the Higgs will have a mass about 125 times the mass of the proton, making it as heavy as a medium-sized nucleus, and it will "fill in" the last missing piece of a puzzle involving the solution of one of the great outstanding problems in physics of the 20th century: the origin of all mass. If the properties of the Higgs are confirmed, the picture of fundamental particle forces will have been completed. That picture is known as The Standard Model.
 
 
Robot Man Reformed
13:13 / 24.03.02
Wow, it's fun entertaining this thought:

"I would like to give you my views on God, giving you the simplest possible definition. God is an isotropic' line parallel to itself and vibrating on itself at right angles. He is like a system of axes in which the point of intersection of the lines is (isotropic: That which exhibits equal physical actions in all directions. Light is a case in point.) everywhere at the same time. Then He is many, because dimensions are contained within Him, 'when these are per-mutated-to use a terrestrial definition-" n" equals infinity. Please remember that this is an attempt to explain, in human language, the unexplainable. On the basis of this premise we can now go further and see how matter and energy were created.

From this site - warning, contains reference to aliens.
 
 
Tamayyurt
19:00 / 25.03.02
quote: I have been looking for answers as to what has happen to me as of the eclipse of 1999 going all the way to the end of September 2000.

What happened?

quote:This could also be the reason why there are so many children being born with , instead of just 2 active DNA strings as most of us grownups, have up to 22 active DNA strings we have 23 DNA strings according to science.

Where did you get this info? can you tell me more about this?

quote: One of the major fuck-ups for the body is the mutation the body undergoes by continually ingesting food sources that are not meant for the body, and in the case of milk and dairy products, which sedates all the sensors.

more info on this also please.
 
 
Robot Man Reformed
19:38 / 25.03.02
quote:Originally posted by impulsivelad:

What happened?


I met Laila in June/July 1999. It was a messy point in time for me, drinking much more than I do now (which is still considerable) in total disregard to what I perceived all around me. She helped me and we many hour long conversations. It was just meant to be as we experienced improbable happenstances. I left in the beginning of Nov.

During the eclipse of 1999, she felt intense warmth coming out of her core and she felt as though she was lifted up from the ground, and a kid had been playing in the backyard, placing reflectors on the ground but amazingly the eclipse was reflected on her house only, dozens of dozens of them there. As of that moment she felt much more and all the pain that she could feel from children, either sexually molested or beaten up was intensified.

It went on to 2000, and I think it was May but I was all of a sudden worried about her, worried that her boyfriend was doubting her so I phoned her up, true enough, her boyfriend answered the phone but something was wrong with the phone and he couldn't hear me, so I phoned again and she picked it up. What she was saying, I'm sure, most would have regarded as insanity but I 'got it'. And the odd thing was that this intense energy was being directed to me from her through the phone, I fell into a trance and was shaking all over the body in a comatose kind of way. She was midthrough what she has termed her 'trip' where she was shown of all the lies of our past, of all the lies of our present and a map of what would happen in the future. And she spoke in Aramaic, olden English and French. She went through a lot, basically.

But her boyfriend began to think that she was delusional, although he had witnessed so many strange moments with her in the past and got 'anti-psychotic' pills and made her swallow them (which she thought was sleeping pills) and her receptors were momentarily damaged, however, since she lives so healthily she had a quick recovery. About 2 or 3 months.

Her map of the future has so far been entirely accurate.

And of the lies of the past and present, we went about investigating all of this, while trying to attract as many on the same level as us, because you see, we were told of a psychic army. At first we thought it was up to us (and people like us), but the recent year has shown that there are gatherings all over the place; people with extra-sensory abilities are finding each other all over the world, undoubtedly because we can feel more as the months pass.

quote:Where did you get this info? Can you tell me more about this?

I'll ask her.

quote:More info on this also please
www.waisays.com

Feel free to ask any qiestions.
 
 
000
01:48 / 01.02.03
Fact 2. Humans - and everything that has 'life' - has an etheric body which looks identical to the physical body but functions at a higher frequency. In fact, it is at the same frequency as the ether. Could this be where it derives it's name? Scientists know that we are electromagnetic in origin. Most advanced medical tests assess electrical impulses in the brain and elsewhere in the body to find areas of activity or lack of it that may be causing a problem. Our thoughts register activity in the brain. This activity can be seen with modern medical equipment but not the 'thought' itself. The thought operates at an even higher frequency but it is quite real. The thought registers in the ether.

http://www.rense.com/general33/ether.htm
 
 
Spatula Clarke
14:06 / 01.02.03
Rense.com isn't exactly the most impartial, well-balanced of sites...
 
 
dlotemp
18:32 / 01.02.03
There is a wonderful book by respected Scientist and author Paul Davies called the Logic of God and he discusses several issues surrounding the idea of God in an orderly universe. BTW - he's also won an award for his work in trying to bridge religion and science.

One of his best ideas is that if God exists than it (non-gender) is multi-dimensional, and, as such, is totally beyond our possible awareness since humans are not built to absorb and process more than a limited number of dimensions. I still remember the physical sensation I felt after reading this proposition and thinking - "God really doesn't matter. Sure, it could exist but there is no way for me to ever fully experience in this human form. It's totally beyond me."

And then I had to put the book down and go play bingo with my grandmother in the church hall. True story.

I do think spirituality is important. I do think faith is possible. But i doubt we will ever know God in this universe. It is literally unfathomable.
 
 
topical b
16:20 / 03.02.03
i find the phrasing of your response humorous. in short if god is energy=matter, then he doesn't matter.
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oddly enough, i had an experience on dmt where i became aware of an entity that was the key to the relationship between dimensions. this has been for some time the closest definition for any all encompasing god that i have. it was after this experience that all of my meditations attemting to communicate with a god entity ceased. does god matter?, is god all matter?,
 
 
Funktion
07:15 / 12.02.03
"luminous beings are we, not this crude matter"
 
 
Wrecks City-Zen
22:06 / 12.02.03
i doubt we will ever know God in this universe. It is literally unfathomable.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
23:46 / 12.02.03
This thread might have a bit of relevance, if I'm understanding you correctly.

Must we use the word "ether?" Might as well say "firmament." Sounds bogus, like offering to let your next door neighbor in on "a great business opportunity."
 
  
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