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Keep watching the skies. Planet X

15:05 / 07.03.02

Events may be hotting up on Earth, but celestial events may beat the Bush administration to turning the world upside down.

Items refering to this missing planet have been about for a while, but disinformation is being practiced.

quote: X has INTENTIONALLY BEEN MADE TO SOUND RIDICULOUS and
confusing for several reasons. One of which is to avoid
causing panic among the world's population. Many websites
and articles continue to be written about Planet X that
spread lies. They say it only MAY exist or there's no
evidence for its existence or it comes around only once
every few million years if it does exist. This
disinformation is widespread. The second layer of
disinformation is for people that have done their
homework and absolutely know that Planet X does exist.
For them, the disinformation artists are saying it will
not arrive in our lifetime. Lastly, for the observatories
that are completely aware of Planet X and its arrival
time, they are saying "keep quiet and don't worry,
nothing will happen during the passage."

Stephen (GNN)

What can we do?

15:18 / 07.03.02

Prostrate ourselves before Great Cthulhu, heh heh heh.

(Message edited 'cos I can't spell The Dread Name properly. Some priest of the Great Old Ones I am, huh?)

[ 07-03-2002: Message edited by: Bill Posters ]

15:21 / 07.03.02

So, correct me if I'm wrong, the idea is that 90 per cent of the population of the planet will be wiped out in May 2003 by a passing brown dwarf called Planet X?

Do you believe this is going to happen, Will? Or that some agency (NASA/military) will save us at the last minute? Are you going to hole up in a bunker when the day comes?

pointless and uncalled for

15:31 / 07.03.02

Depends if the president is Morgan freeman or Stanley Anderson

15:34 / 07.03.02

You mean the old,

"When will there be a black president. When its the end of the world, thats when."

pointless and uncalled for

15:38 / 07.03.02

No, as in Armageddon and Deep Impact, less casualties in Armageddon, no real need for bunkers.

18:10 / 07.03.02

The interesting part for me is that if a 10th/12th planet exists and its orbit takes it close to Earth, it would fit into the catastrophic event that many very early myths speak of. Which caused the building of raised platforms, such as mounds and pyramids.

[ 08-03-2002: Message edited by: will it work wright? ]

20:14 / 07.03.02

quote:From the nutty, hysterical site:We live in a binary system. Our suns dark twin lies toward the Orion galaxy. Planet X is a rogue planet or brown dwarf star. X's orbit takes it back and forth between both suns. It takes approximately 3660 years for one orbit.

But...

quote:From the slightly more credible-looking site:Clearly shown is “Nemesis” a popular name for our sun’s binary companion, a dead star.

Okay. So is there a second, active star, as the first quote indicates, which Planet X's orbit swings between? If that was the case, and Planet X can travel between that second star and our sun in 1830 years for each trip, that would make that second star orders of magnitude closer to ours than the currently-accepted "closest" star (Alpha Centauri, 4.3 lightyears away). That kind of makes the first quote seem like a typo or Just Plain Wrong. The second quote -- in which Planet X is the twin star -- seems more feasible

Still. Confused. Anyone?

[ 07-03-2002: Message edited by: Mister Snee ]

20:55 / 07.03.02

So let me get this straight.Most of the people on earth are going to die next year just because some chunk of rock floats by? Well isn't that just dandy?

22:18 / 07.03.02

So is the cover up about a planet or a star (brown dwarf)? Or is the idea that we just don't know? I still can't work out if anyone here takes this seriously or if it is just an interesting theory.

Less searchable M0rd4nt

22:54 / 07.03.02

The Apocalypse?

Again?

23:24 / 07.03.02

Oh Lord...guess I'll go warm up the Jehovah's Witnesses....

23:28 / 07.03.02

monkey: just because its the end of the world, there is no need for that level of desparation.

07:50 / 08.03.02

Well from this strange extract from an encyclopedia, the dead star is a binary twin to our sun and the 10th planet is our planet X.
.

Would be interesting to see what info could be found out about this 'theory'. I'm going to run it by a friendly astronomer. Anyone else up for a little investigation? It might just take the edge off of the WAR

07:50 / 08.03.02

Planet X?

PLANET FUCKING X?

God it's brilliant when the world resembles a Lionel Fanthrope book..

But, um, I'm no astronomer (understatement of the year) but is this any relation to that planet 'Smiley' everyone was goofing off about a few years ago? The one that was supposed to be behind Pluto? If so, how would that ever get anywhere near Earth's orbit?

(oh, actually I guess this is a different one)

07:50 / 08.03.02

I reckon Cassandra Nova's behind it...

odd jest on horn

10:30 / 08.03.02

quote: But, um, I'm no astronomer (understatement of the year) but is this any relation to that planet 'Smiley' everyone was goofing off about a few years ago? The one that was supposed to be behind Pluto? If so, how would that ever get anywhere near Earth's orbit?

well pluto is sometimes closer than neptune actually. (can't be arsed to check if it is now). it's all about how oblong the orbit is. eccentricity of the ellipse is the correct term. so if the orbit of planet X is very eccentric it might very well intersect with earths orbit. might explain earths moon, and the asteroid belt. don't think there's a good explanation for the moon yet.

13:53 / 08.03.02

The Nemesis theory hasn’t been disproven, but there’s no compelling evidence for it, either. The basic idea is that a brown dwarf massing 10-100 Jupiters is in a slow, wandering orbit around our sun somewhere on the fringes of our solar system, far beyond Pluto/Neptune. Every once in a long while it plows through the Oort cloud, knocking vast numbers of iceballs around, sending many of them tumbling towards the sun as new comets, and triggering one of the periodic mass extinctions we’ve observed in the geological record.

The Planet X theory is, shall we say, less accepted.

15:47 / 08.03.02

So it's one part phenobarbital and 3 parts applesauce, right?

04:34 / 09.03.02

so, wait, did 90% of earth go extinvt 3600 years ago?

12:14 / 09.03.02

Here is another site regarding Planet X.

15:56 / 09.03.02

For anybody who is interested, the official position of NASA is that....they aren't sure whether or not there is a tenth planet. But they seem to have very little to say about it. See here.

A detailed site giving the history of planet finding along with lots of refs and hard numbers can be found here or at a mirror.

The conclusion there seems to be that both a tenth planet and an errant star are unlikely to exist.

This seems to be supported by the Royal Observatory of Greenwich (you have to do a search for tenth planet - I couldn't get the link to work directly to that page).

They do concede that there might be a tenth planet (different from Planet X) orbiting in the Oort cloud with an orbit of six million years.

[ 09-03-2002: Message edited by: Lurid Archive ]

16:26 / 11.03.02

There is now scientific debate whether or not pluto can be considered a planet because the newlydiscovered planet behind Pluto v-something is just part of a group of Plluto sized plantes in that area.

12:34 / 13.03.02

I LOVE YOU XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

16:52 / 13.03.02

If there were a planet orbiting our sun we would be able to measure the displacement of our sun caused by the planets gravity. This is one of the methods we've used to detected planets around other stars. This is to say nothing of the gravity of the other star in a binary system.

If it's too small to be a planet then it's just another piece of rock (amongst an extremely large number) that might hit us. /me shrugs