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Free virus protection: 2007 edition

 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
12:57 / 07.01.07
I know that this topic has come up a lot in the past, but since AVG anti-virus will no longer be offered as a free utility as of January 15th I thought it merited a new thread. I was wondering what 'Lithers would recommend as an alternative. At present I'm considering either Avast! or Avira AntiVir. Any comments on either of these?
 
 
Mistoffelees
13:06 / 07.01.07
I´ve got Avira and it works fine, I never have any problems with viruses.
 
 
Punji Steak
13:10 / 07.01.07
AVG 7.5 is still free. Check here -

http://free.grisoft.com/doc/1
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:11 / 07.01.07
Yeah, it's still free but the website's a little misleading- I think they want people to assume it isn't and get the pay version.
 
 
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13:20 / 07.01.07
Hahah, figures. I'm still using mine, but if it doesn't work next time I'd go with avast I reckon.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
13:23 / 07.01.07
What's misleading is the giant pop-up window that appears every time I switch on my lappy telling me that my free service is going byebye... oh well, as you were.
 
 
Tabitha Tickletooth
13:53 / 07.01.07
What might those in the know most highly recommend for an iBook? Just out of interest...
 
 
w1rebaby
21:05 / 07.01.07
Nothing at all. Macs don't need virus scanners.
 
 
■
22:50 / 07.01.07
Seconded. They read your brain imprint every time you open them, so why would a scanner help?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
00:39 / 08.01.07
A scanner could make unlicensed users' brains explode...
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
13:20 / 08.01.07
Yeah Mordant, I have been getting the same pop up. AVG is a good service, but their marketing people are bit on the asshole side it seems.
 
 
Tabitha Tickletooth
13:57 / 08.01.07
And yet, see, I seem to be reading various news stories implying a growing increase in attention from the evil virus creating world towards the fluffy, free and innocent Mac world. Is this all just vile lies? (I'm sure, for example, that last week there was something on the BBC about a couple of guys who are dedicating a month to design bugs for Macs just to highlight the problem - if people think I'm gibbering I should be able to dig up the link when I am not supposed to be 'working'.)

I fear that the first time I will become aware that I now need virus protection is when the guy in the Apple store drips piteous contempt over me and my broken iBook because I didn't have any...
 
 
w1rebaby
21:32 / 08.01.07
It is lies, it is vile lies, it may even be calumnies.

There are of course potential security holes even when one is wearing the Mac hat, but in practice there are no viruses which exploit them. Most of the "warnings" in the media come from "security" software manufacturers or bitter tech people, and are distributed by ignorant journalists. The moment when an actual, real live Mac virus appears, believe me, you won't be able to move for legions of people saying "ha ha you have a virus, that proves that OS X is just as bad as Windows which has ten million of them". Until then don't worry.
 
 
Dutch
21:35 / 08.01.07
Avast here, good program as far as I'm concerned, my pc seems to like being virus-free too.

(I'm inviting twentythousand viral nasties to come and destroy every bit of information on my harddrive with the former statement)
 
 
Tabitha Tickletooth
08:11 / 09.01.07
Thankyou Fridgemagnet - genuinely. I have been reading those kind of news reports and starting to wonder. My mind is much put at rest by your reassurance.
 
 
Smoothly
18:26 / 20.09.07
For reasons I won't bore you with, I've been forced to buy a PC laptop. Having migrated to Apple a couple of years ago I'm at a loss about where to start about protecting this thing from viruses, malware etc. A bit of reading around suggests that AVG, SpyBot, Ad-Aware and Zone Alarm no longer cut the mustard. And apparently there's something called 'scumware' at large that I didn't even know about.

So I'm throwing myself at the bosom of Barbelith in the hope that someone will be able to advise me about what I should install on an out-of-the-box PC running Vista Home Premium to keep it relatively safe and sound. I'd prefer free but could be persuaded to pay if that's really recommended.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
20:21 / 20.09.07
A bit of reading around suggests that AVG, SpyBot, Ad-Aware and Zone Alarm no longer cut the mustard.

Out of interest, where have you read this? I use them on several PCs and haven't noticed any problems with them. Yet.

In any case, I'd recommend installing ZoneAlarm and AVG Free before you connect to the internet anyway, just in case.
 
 
Smoothly
20:48 / 20.09.07
Here for example. But the advice there is XP oriented, and I've no idea if Vista changes the, um, landscape.
 
 
grant
20:48 / 20.09.07
Ad-Aware keeps updating itself - I hardly recognize it now.

This makes me doubt it's fallen behind in the race against BADNESS.
 
 
Bamba
21:20 / 20.09.07
Before you start worrying about virus scanners and the like, there's one much more critical and simple security measure you need to take: STOP USING INTERNET EXPLORER. Seriously, I cannot stress this enough, IE is the biggest vector for virus and spyware transmission on the Windows platform and the amount of infestations I see it allow into people's machines day after day is stunning. So, yeah, get Firefox, Opera or even Safari for a touch of home if you must, but get shot of Microsoft's abomination.

As for security software, installing Avast, ZoneAlarm* and Microsoft's Windows Defender should see you right most of the time. Top up with Ad-Aware and/or Spybot if you do manage to contract anything nasty, and be slightly cautious of where surf to and you should be fine. The combination of Firefox plus not being a complete idiot when surfing the net has kept me completely safe for the last few years and my virus scanner must be bored out of it's tiny mind.

*only required if you're not using a router with a built-in hardware firewall as most of them tend to have these days.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
21:24 / 20.09.07
hmmm, interesting reading, though it's mostly opinion (of course!). Ze does say that AVG is still pretty good (I can report no infections since using it) and ... oh, hold on Bamba's just said what I was going to about hardware firewalls and Firefox.
 
 
Smoothly
21:34 / 20.09.07
I installed AVG but it doesn't seem to be able to call home to check of updates, and I wondered if I was maybe flogging the wrong horse. I'll persevere.

Bamba, duffer though I am, the first thing I did was install Firefox. (But is it also important to uninstall IE?)
And I possibly am a bit of an idiot when it comes to surfing the internet, so am also considering Sandboxie. I don't know if anyone has particular feelings about that.

Thanks all. I appreciate the recommendations.
 
 
Bamba
21:47 / 20.09.07
But is it also important to uninstall IE?

Not only is it unimportant but it's also impossible to all intents and purposes. Windows Explorer and Internet Explorer are tied so tightly together (IE is just a shell on top of Explorer as I understand it) that even if you did figure out a way to 'uninstall' IE you'd very likely knack Windows completely. Plus, you do still need IE to run Windows Update as, unsurprisingly, MS don't let you on there with any other browser.

And I possibly am a bit of an idiot when it comes to surfing the internet, so am also considering Sandboxie. I don't know if anyone has particular feelings about that.

Dunno dude, I've never tried it myself. You could give it a shot, it couldn't hurt, though I would give one warning from having read about it: it mentions that everything you do on the net, including file downloads, are performed within the sandbox and deleted when you shut the application down. Whihc is fair enough, but it strikes me that if you'd downloaded anything important you wanted to keep, but forgot to explicitly tell Sandboxie you wanted to keep said file before shutting Sandboxie down, your monitor might well be in danger of having a frustrated fist put through it when you realised you'd accidentally delete everything at the click of a mouse. So, yeah, I'd watch out for that.
 
 
Smoothly
22:09 / 20.09.07
Yup, that sounds like me.
Cheers.
 
  
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