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On being shit at posting

 
 
Hydra vs Leviathan
23:42 / 11.12.06
Ok, whether or not anyone else has noticed, i feel pretty bad about this. There are quite a few threads on Barbelith where i've posted pretty controversial stuff, of the sort which it's probably OK to post if you're willing to come back to the thread on a regular basis, check the replies, and post replies to the replies further explaining the points and responding properly to the debate, but which it's really not OK, at least on Barbrelith, to post and then just leave without further response.

There are even more threads (in fact, vastly more) on which i've wanted or intended to post, in some cases since first seeing them several months ago, but haven't posted what i've wanted to, due to some unspecified and not-quite-understood inability to get my words together sufficiently coherently to post them, despite (usually) having a pretty clear idea of what i want to say in my head. (Some of these threads have since moved on in directions which would make what i wanted to post to them, say, a couple of weeks ago, no longer relevant or now out of place in the evolved version of the thread. Including some threads that were down on, like, page 7 or something of some fora and were resurrected to the top by other people within a day or so of me thinking about posting on them, which is possibly kind of spooky.)

This is the thread in which i try and work out why this is, and humbly ask for forgiveness for behaviour which probably looks like trolling to most people in the former case, and just general failure-to-contribute in the latter. And also possibly ask for advice on how to post more freely without fear of incoherence, misunderstanding or Looking Like A Troll.

I am, generally, not a very "together" person at all (i have major problems with social anxiety, depression, self-hatred, difficulty in effectively communicating my ideas, and all kinds of other fucked up stuff less easy to succinctly describe), and in particular have not had a very stable existence recently, and worrying about real-life events has somewhat dissociated me from all the internet communities i would like to be involved with (to the extent of stopping posting altogether on some i used to be very prolific on, whereas on Barbelith i kind of feel like i have never really started posting at the levels of frequency i wanted to when i first became aware of the place). This, however, isn't an excuse, and, while some might say "it's only the internet, it's not as important as real life", the internet is part of real life, and i do feel real guilt at starting arguments and then leaving the people i'm arguing with hanging without me returning to the argument...

So, am i a troll, in Barbelith's terms, for acting like this? If so, and on the off chance that anyone else has experienced similar, what are good ways to not be a troll? (apart from the obvious, just posting when i say i'll post - what i need is to get over the silly feelings of fear and inadequacy in order to do that...)

How can i properly become up to the posting standard of Barbelith?
 
 
Char Aina
01:06 / 12.12.06
worry less.
it sounds trite, but it is true.

if you posted that much text in any of the threads you have been worried about neglecting, you would have kicked the arse out of most contributors' input.
as it is you seem to be turning the typing gun on yourself, and writing at length about not being a good barbelither.


i dont agree with your assesment, but this does touch on something i have been chatting about recently with someone else. unless you are tossing about the hatespeech or generally abusing the good citizens of The City Invisible,
you don't have to do jack shit to be a member of barbelith beyond having a login and a pasword. you should consider yourself to be as much a part of the firmament as anyone else, and not worry so much about coming up to scratch.

i realise others will have contributions people feel are superior to their own, or tenure that folks might feel makes them better placed to comment on certain issues or in some debates. there will often be some weight of precedent or experience involved, especially with posters who have been present and vocal for a while, but i don't think that should be anything other than a minor consideration.

attack the beast as best you see fit, and aim to be respectful and open where appropriate.

if you feel you have shirked a particular question, i'd suggest addressing your concern to the person(s) involved.
one of teh great things about barbelith is that the board is going to retain all those unanswered questions for years(assuiming it doesnt get deleted), and one of the great things about all the people i've spoken with here is that they seem willing to accept reasonable requests.
if you say you 'll get back, i'm sure they'll give you time to get back.

i've addressed posts from months ago, and some even from years ago. as long as no one is waiting on your reply, where's the harm?


so yeah.
don't worry.
address your concerns by all means, but don't feel bad about being busy or distracted.
 
 
Triplets
02:10 / 12.12.06
Great post, toksy.

the internet is part of real life

Yeh, but one part isn't equal to the total. It sounds harsh to say but real life comes first. It should always come first.
 
 
Char Aina
02:17 / 12.12.06
and that's why you will always lose at WoW.
 
  
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