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StarWhisper
16:28 / 08.12.06
Can anyone suggest some reliable and interesting sources where I can find out about the general history of, and maybe contempory veiws on, Anarchy and resistance?
I am starting a research project which is likely to focus on the 19thC onwards although nothing is set in stone.
Picture books! Or a visual (eg artworks/poster design etc. etc.) slant would also be really wonderful. As would anecdotal or personal experiences of protests/campaigns/ideology if anyone would care to share.
 
 
nighthawk
16:39 / 08.12.06
The Libcom library and message board might be a good place to start. There's a lot of material in there, so it might be a bit too overwhelming initially, but its an excellent resource. Here's all the articles tagged 'anarchism'; you'll also find plenty of historical accounts/primary sources/anecdotes if you browse for a while.

The people on the board will be more than happy to give you some pointers as long as you show a genuine interest (i.e. don't just ask them to help you with your homework...) It might be worth browsing some of the old threads too, because I imagine this sort of question comes up a lot.

Also, check out the podcast of this week's In Our Time which, funnily enough, was all about anarchism.

If you say a bit more about your interests, I'll come back later this weekend and see if I can give you something a bit more specific.
 
 
StarWhisper
17:48 / 08.12.06
Cheers for the links etc.

The people on the board will be more than happy to give you some pointers as long as you show a genuine interest (i.e. don't just ask them to help you with your homework...)

I could have chosen anything-absolutely anything at all- for this project but I chose this because it interests me and may turn out to be a beneficial area of research for the future, as no doubt I will be involving myself in some Anarchy and and resistance at some point.( I got so far as baking vegan chocolate cakes for the local Anarchist collective. They organise protests & leaflets & being nice all the time )
I will doubtfully be using any of the said anecdotes, this is an academic study and therefore would be inappropriate to include them unless a topical analysis can be applied and something concrete established from them. I really just wanted to make this thread a bit more open than just listing sources; exchange of information and education is what it's all about.

Yeah it's my homework, but I'm hoping it will expand and take a turn for the interesting and pro-active.
Will definately post anything interesting I find out along the way.
Know any good books?
 
 
StarWhisper
17:48 / 08.12.06

The libcom link don't work.
 
 
StarWhisper
17:59 / 08.12.06
Nuclear Dawn
 
 
Char Aina
18:17 / 08.12.06
have you read the early anarchist texts?

look for bakunin, proudhon, kropotkin, guerin and goldman.
there are loads more, but those are pretty much canon.

i'd also recommend some other reading around it, like franz fanon's 'wretched of the earth', stuff that isnt really anarchism, but stuff that nonethless informs an understanding the concept.
it might also be an idea to get to grips with some of the thinking that immediately preceeded the anarchists.

wiliam godwin is probably the most influential of those, but others are useful.
i'd also reccomend 'on liberty'(JS Mills) and 'leviathan'(hobbes), but those are pretty heavy going if you have an essay due.

pehaps an 'idiots guide to' book on those, and maybe one on rousseau while you're at it.
 
 
nighthawk
18:58 / 08.12.06
I completely forgot the Anarchist FAQ.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
22:21 / 08.12.06
This is possibly a bit contentious, but I think 'Lipstick Traces' by Greil Marcus, in which he examines, in fairly exhaustive detail, the reasons why he likes 'Anarchy In The UK' so much as a single is as good a place to start as any. It's a book about pop and art as much as it is about politics, but I don't know if that's necessarily a bad thing. He's very good on Situationism and Dada for example, which seem to have been about a combination of the three, and the style's either visceral and exciting, or impossible to read, according to taste. Definitely worth a look though, I'd say.
 
 
illmatic
15:18 / 10.12.06
I think you could do a lot worse than getting yourself a copy of Talking Anarchy, a book of interviews with British anarchist Colin Ward (author credits to him and David Goodway.) Ward is a British anarchist who has been involved with politics for the past 40 years. He's the former editor of fortnightly anarchist paper Freedom, and has written widely on anarchism as well as social planning and related issues (he's trained as a architect/social planner). This book is an excellent introduction to his thinking as well as a potted history of British 20th Century radical politics. I have several of Ward's books - what I like about them is that he takes anarchist principles and applies them in areas that you wouldn't think they'd fit and comes up with surprising yet radically "common sense" solutions. You'd be surprised at how sensible anarchists can be - I get a sense from reading them that "anarchism", in the sense of mutual aid and non-hierarchical organisation, is how massive chunks of our lives are organised anyway - in that sense, the basis of "anarchism" is already here. See his book Anarchy in Action for more on this: [the book]is not about strategies for revolution and it is not involved in speculation on the way an anarchist society would function. It is about the ways in which people organize themselves in any kind of human society, whether we care to categorize those societies as primitive, traditional, capitalist or communist.

A example of Ward's interests/approach can be found in Cotters and Squatters, his latest book - an "alternative" history of housing, giving a positive account of those who disregarded some of the laws around property. Great stuff.

There's a review of the first book here alongside a few others. I'd also recommend the Stuart Christie book reviewed, "Granny made me an anarchist" - his biography which features an account of his involvement in a plot to kill Franco, his subsquent imprisonment, and later involvement (or not, so he says) with the Angry Brigade. Also full of anarchist thinking, but wrapped around a great story!

Oh, and the guy who wrote that review has written a huge history of anarchism called "Demand the Impossible" - haven't read it, but it looks pretty comprehensive.
 
 
unheimlich manoeuvre
22:37 / 10.12.06
As Pegs said, there is a sense that Anarchism is always/already here.

Not that I'm attracted to the Romanticism of a Golden Age agarian past but you may also enjoy reading The World Turned Upside Down : Radical Ideas During the English Revolution by Christopher Hill. It's a Marxist account but gives a history of groups like The Levellers and The Diggers .
 
 
Seak
17:36 / 11.12.06
I've been involved in anarchist circles for a number of years now, so have a few anecdotes - although they're more related to the direct action side of anarchism than to the theory.

Peter H. Marshall's book Demanding the Impossible comes highly recomended by friends, although I haven't read it.

Emma Goldman was a great introduction at the time I read it. It's less Marxist than some of the other pioneers (Bakunin and Malatesta in particular caused me problems because of an overly Marxist-heavy language). There's also a great essay in there about the burgeoning Women's Liberation movement, in which she argues that there is no point in women being as free as men, if men themselves are not free.

My background is mostly eco-anarchism, and for that, Derek Wall's Earth First! and the Anti-Roads Movement is an brilliant exploration of the evolution of the eco-anarchist / anti-roads protests in the 90s.

The Libcom site is also an excellent starting point, although it's very Class War orientated.
 
 
Grey Cell
17:38 / 11.12.06
www.infoshop.org
(anarchist infoshop, seems to be down atm though...)

www.crimethinc.com
Lots of visual material here.
 
 
nighthawk
17:39 / 11.12.06
The Libcom site is also an excellent starting point, although it's very Class War orientated.

Not at all! There's been a lot of criticism of the current Class War organisation there recently, to the point where Libcom stopped hosting the Class War message board (at Class War's request, I believe)...
 
 
nighthawk
17:40 / 11.12.06
I mean, the libcom people are class-struggle anarchists, but that's not the same as being affiliated or connected with Class War.
 
 
Seak
17:52 / 11.12.06
Nighthawk, as far as the forums are concerned I'd agree, with the caveat that from my experience many of the more vocal posters on Libcom are critical of almost every anarchist 'movement' or group*.

Although, on second though, class-struggle does more accurately describe their politics, and would have been a more accurate description.

*I'm biased, after a group I'm involved with was attacked on the forum.
 
 
el d.
20:06 / 11.12.06
I can also recommend www.crimethink.org .
They take anarchism very seriously, which means of course that they continue to reflect about their own modes of action. And their ´zine, "Rolling Thunder", is a great read... and it´s fun to have a glossy anarchist magazine around the house!

I´m not affiliated, I truly just enjoyed their material. Good buy, even for europeans like me.
 
 
Wanderer
16:52 / 12.12.06
A good site for some of the "canon" anarchist authors (Goldman,Godwin, Bakunin, etc.) is The Anarchy Archives . Its run by someone at Pitzer college and has online versions of a bunch of the older key texts.
 
 
StarWhisper
09:23 / 22.12.06
OK Excellent. I'm reading Anarchism by Woodcock at the moment (It's the best the library has to offer). It's enlightening.

Thanks for the suggestions- they have been invaluable. It turns out that Demanding The Impossible is very highly recommended by everyone who has read around the subject. I have it on my christmas list!

Anarchists officially, and without hesition write the best properganda ever. Go to Crimethink and read Harbinger and you will see what I mean. Maybe. I want a hard copy and all the back issues. I might focus on propaganda in some form, I think, perhaps...

There are also, it seems, a lot of literary folk who didn't write theory but are important none the less.
Tolstoy and Shelly notably. If I am going to read Tolstoy in this context which one should I pick? Or which one is the best?
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
16:37 / 22.12.06
Do read Demanding the Impossible- it's a little demanding, but not impossible (oh, I am good...)
Also, since nobody seems to have mentioned it so far, bear in mind that, like Statism, Anarchism* comes in Capitalist and Communist flavors, and the books and theorists described above are mostly anarcho-communists (Proudhon, the so-called Father of Anarchism, is claimed by both sides as one-of-our-own, but was a vociferous critic of communism and strong advocate of private property- he both said that 'All property is theft' and 'Property is freedom'. He also hated Jews somethin' fierce, so take him with a pinch of salt if at all).
The Wikipedia page is pretty well researched, balanced, and has a good bibliography. The 'propaganda' isn't as exciting as the class-war oi-oi-oi crust-punk stuff, but it's generally written by people who bathe. Do remember, when approaching either side of Anarchism, that it attracts a lot of young (mostly white and privileged) men with fire in their blood overriding their brains who may produce some nice slogans and superficially exciting punk rock, but very few who do much, if anything, to undo some of the harm done by Statism or persuade anybody but other angry young men that a stateless society is both feasible and desirable.

*=Personally I prefer to use this word instead of "Anarchy".
 
 
StarWhisper
20:17 / 22.12.06
Do remember, when approaching either side of Anarchism, that it attracts a lot of young (mostly white and privileged) men with fire in their blood overriding their brains who may produce some nice slogans and superficially exciting punk rock, but very few who do much, if anything, to undo some of the harm done by Statism or persuade anybody but other angry young men that a stateless society is both feasible and desirable.

This is precisely the kind of thing that interests me. I don't know enough about this yet to give an adequate criticism, but feels like Anarchism is fundamentally flawed on when it comes to Anarcho-communism, syndicalism and other forms which require any form of social order based around a moral code or the inherant goodness of others. Naive (?) It's never worked and yet it has a fairly productive and impassioned production of literature as a legacy. Anarchist individualism I feel is plausible- it works as a personal philosophy at least.
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
21:18 / 22.12.06
It's never worked and yet it has a fairly productive and impassioned production of literature as a legacy

Hence "Demanding the Impossible" I suppose. I'd be really interested in seeing a social-anthropological study of Anarcho-Communist 'scenes' in British or American cities (from my experience of teh scene in Portland, there's also several new species of mold awaiting discovery on their clothes). I'd like to see what sort of people devote so much time and energy to what is at best a marginal political view, which they don't seem to want to spread to anyone but themselves- even a glossy magazine like Crimethinc's Harbinger is full of text and graphics that scream 'this has NO- repeat: N-fuckin'-O relevance to your life or experiences' to anyone who isn't part of the 'in' group already, and usually white*, male, between the ages of 15 and 25 and pissed at mom and dad for throwing their bong away.

*Okay I'm probably being unfair by saying they're all white, there are nonwhite AnarchoCommie groups all over the world, but then one of the Portland punks explained to me that he considered himself 'post-racial' by virtue of his 'identification' with various indigenous struggles, therefore it was okay that he referred to to himself and his honky friends using the n-word. I conjectured that he was mentally subnormal and that perhaps he may have had sexual relations with his mother.
 
 
nighthawk
21:56 / 22.12.06
even a glossy magazine like Crimethinc's Harbinger is full of text and graphics that scream 'this has NO- repeat: N-fuckin'-O relevance to your life or experiences' to anyone who isn't part of the 'in' group already, and usually white*, male, between the ages of 15 and 25 and pissed at mom and dad for throwing their bong away.

There's plenty of criticism of Crimethinc in the some parts of the Anarchist milieu for just this reason. I'm not sure how many people take them seriously outside of America - most anarchists I've talked to on this side of the Atlantic have been pretty scathing...
 
 
madhatter
15:58 / 23.12.06
(a) on crimethInc: can't ever have too much middle class boys infected with worldview-shattering discourse; i don't have to agree with their fluffybunny-veganist-anti-rationalist-worldview, but i certainly do like the fact that their network exists and spreads through the suburbs...

(b) on sources: if you happen to understand german, try www.nadir.org/nadir/archiv - a big resource an all brands of radical-left thought.

(c) on the "it did not work anyway"-angle: what with makhnovist ukraine? and: if we define "anarchism" not by the goal of it's 19th century forethinkers - namely, the destruction of the state and it's replacement by the free cooperation of the individual workers - but, instead, as a tradition of using certain methods to achieve special short-term aims (such as, say, get rent-free living space for many people; force the city governement to accept a certain project; help a group of "illegal" aliens; force a company to withdraw certain methods of labour exploitation...), then "anarchistic means" may well be said to have, in this past century, achieved very much indeed.
 
 
illmatic
17:21 / 24.12.06
Following Madhatter's c) - have a look at Colin Ward, mentiond above. Ward gives plenty of examples taken from *everday life* where "anarchy as a theory of organisation" is employed. His other books are fascinating for exploring the ramifications of this - I'd recommend The Child in the City in particular. From what I recall of the book of interviews with him, he's very realistic about the prospect of a future "anarchist society" as well (ie. he doesn't believe in it, and it doesn't matter).
 
 
petunia
17:32 / 24.12.06
Melvyn Bragg!

BBC Radio 4's 'In Our Time' Does a good discussion-on-interesting-subjects kinda thing.

Their discussion on Anarchy seems to provide a nice historical summary of the concept/movement and is available on their website as a realplayer stream. If you'd prefer mp3, i have the podacast and can yousendit if desired. Let me know...
 
 
Leidan
17:52 / 27.12.06
I've been interested in anarchism for a while, and have always tried to find its presence, however fleeting, in the real world... my most fulfilling experience, and the one that convinced me of its workability in certain situations, was at the Stirling activist camp at the 2005 G8 - I wrote a post about it here:

http://www.barbelith.com/topic/21684

It details only a fragment of my experiences/impressions; I'd be happy to say more.

This camp made such an impact on people that there's been a book released about it - 'Shut Them Down'
 
 
Seak
23:01 / 27.12.06
Just found a copy of 1970s edition of Berkman's ABC of Anarchism in an Oxfam for £3 (go charity shop Christmas shopping!) and can highly recommend it for its brevity and clarity.

The book takes the form of a dialogue between an anarchist and a 'socially-inclined liberal/labour-type' who has been put off anarchism by the hype. It's broken into chapters which answer the basic questions people ask: isn't anarchism violent? don't we need a government? etc.

* * * * *

One of the interesting elements of direct action (and most anarchism based on social struggle) is how alienating it is to outsiders. Squatted social centres are hardly the most inviting places - and yet they are supposed to be our entry point where the public can come along and become enthused with this new social phenomenon. Breaking into DA circles is a nightmare, unless you know someone who already takes direct action or have worked with Greenpeace or similar.

Crimethinc is particularly guilty of this, in my opinion - middle-class angst rejecting the niceties of society to slum it with people who, for the most part, would much rather live the comfortable lifestyle being rejected. Although it does make the best agitprop.

Even the Stirling Eco-village or the Climate Camp were not as inviting as they needed to have been to bring the public in - although from chats to locals while doing legal support at the Climate Camp, there was a fair amount of local acceptance of the camp itself, if not the politics.
 
 
Good Intentions
08:20 / 28.12.06
Read everything by Kropotkin.

I'm working my way thorugh his book on ethics (left unfinished as he passed away, alas) and there simply is not a bad word to be said against the man. He's been slandered quite badly by the scientific community to which's history he is a footnote, but his treatment has been extremely unfair, always a sign that someone might be giving an alternative view a bit of weight.

If you're anything like me, who admires clarity of thought and incisiveness in a thinker, you'll find this essay (Communism and Anarchy) to be nothing short of magnificent.

All his really important books - Mutual Aid, The Conquest of Bread, Fields, Factories and Workshops - and a few remarkable essays are available here.
 
 
Leidan
16:20 / 28.12.06
One of the interesting elements of direct action (and most anarchism based on social struggle) is how alienating it is to outsiders.

The trouble is, it seems, is that the 'face' of a particular anarchist venture is mostly unplanned and dependent on its raw people-based structure. i.e. the people the public comes face to face with will be volunteers, in their own often 'strange' clothing, with no 'customer service' routine to go through. But doesn't it have to be this way, the alternative being corporate-style image shaping?

I guess the decor of locations and the publicity design could change alot without impairing integrity.
 
 
Good Intentions
23:54 / 28.12.06
I think it's more to do with the fact that people expect anarchist things to be very strange, and don't recognise the commonplace as anarchistic.

Someone, I think Woodcock, makes a point in one of his books that organising a large dinner party (amongst family and/or friends, not one the butler runs) is an anarchistic event. The usual response my non-anarchists is "oi, you're having a laugh", but when one sits down and considers the sheer amount of work needed, and the cooperation and spontaneous organisation that is used to overcome the problems, it becomes very clear.

If I ever do find myself at the head of a world-changing revolutionary force, following my ideas to form a new world, the end result would not appear that much different to the world we have today, with some noteworthy deviations of course.

Me, I'd recommend anarchist trade unions as the main means of spreading and propogating the movement, because people are well used to them, know the insufficiencies of the current ones and can draw real reward out of well-run anarchist ones. Co-operatives are also really good.
 
 
Tom Paine's Bones
04:16 / 02.01.07
While I've moved away in recent years from anarchism towards a more libertarian marxist position (at least partly because of some of the problems Phex and Seak outlined. It was a bit of a shock when I realised that coming from a working class background in the movement actually made me something of a minority.), having cut my early political teeth in the anarchist movement I still have a great deal of fondess for it.

As a companion to the Christie autobiography I'd suggest reading I Couldn't Paint Golden Angels by Albert Meltzer. It's the autobiography of a class struggle anarchist who was involved in the movement from the late 1930's onwards. Albert was a notoriously grumpy sectarian at times, but his book is an interesting mixture of political theory and personal anecdotes and is reasonably accessible.

Lorenzo Ervin. He's an ex Black Panther who's written extensively and has looked carefully at issues of race in a way much of the anarchist movement sadly haven't.

The Institute for Anarchist Studies leans heavily towards the theoretical side of anarchism but has some very interesting articles.

I will say that while I largely agree with the criticisms previously mentioned of the anarchist movement I do think they're very much looking at the western anarchist movement. I don't think the same criticisms are true of the African or the Latin American anarchists. (And I think it's less true of Spain as well, where anarcho-syndicalism has always done relatively well).
 
 
madhatter
11:20 / 02.01.07
@ lamentations:

would you care enlighten me on the possibility of such a being as a "libertarian marxist"? to my understanding (which, as is shown by just this example, proofs limited), one is EITHER marxist OR libertarian: the former looking for ways to turn the institutions of the class-state against the owning class (declaring that ONLY by the passing of society through a phase of "proletarian dictature" can the goal of a class-free society be achieved); the later declaring institutionalization of any kind to be just another obstacle to overcome, because it hinders the free development of mutual help...

do you meen: you acknoledge the dialectical analyses of marx, but aim for another goal as the 1st,2nd,3rd,4th international?

PS: i was told by english native speakers that, when seeking clarifications on things, my written english reads sometimes as if i had the intention to mock. this is not the case.
 
 
Tom Paine's Bones
23:58 / 02.01.07
As an aside, your post didn't come across as mocking, at least not to me.

Two quick warnings with this. Firstly, much like anarchism, libertarian Marxism is a pretty broad category. It covers everything from council communism to situationism to autonomist Marxism. So this is obviously a broad overview. As well as that, I tend to use the phrase "libertarian Marxist" as shorthand for my own political views. It's truer to say I'm 'influenced' by Marx. There's a couple of important points I break with him on. And several more which I think are still useful but need a fair bit of alteration to make them relevant to the modern world. I also believe that conventional Marxism is best tempered with other ideologies, in particular feminism and ecosocialism. While I'll try to keep this as neutral a description as possible, it's obviously very unlikely my own politics won't seep in to at least some extent.

Libertarian Marxism is a form of Marxism that's often counterpointed to the more authoritarian forms (Leninism, Maoism etc.) as well as being less reformist then the social democratic variety. It places specific emphasis on the elements of Marx that places working class self-organisation and liberation at the forefront of Marxist politics. Largely speaking it disagrees with the Bolsheviks et al on the importance of the revolutionary party within the class struggle.

The main difference between libertarian Marxism and anarchism is that whereas anarchists would abolish the state pretty much instantly after the revolution, Libertarian Marxists do see the need for a transitional period, the Marxist 'dictatorship of the proletariat'. However, we'd see that dictatorship as being a dictatorship in the archaic sense of the word. That of merely meaning that the working class have absolute control over society, as the majority, rather than being an authoritarian dictatorship of a revolutionary party. And while the exact form of the organisation of that is a matter of some debate, all libertarian Marxists would see worker's democracy as being an integral and unnegotiable part of that transitional period.

In terms of your questions about the Internationals, in general terms we're broadly supportive of the first International. Highly critical of the second. And don't see ourselves as having anything in common with the third International onwards.
 
 
madhatter
11:36 / 03.01.07
now that was precise. thanx. commantary later.
 
 
Grey Cell
12:26 / 06.03.07
A new local initiative I'm very enthusiastic about, by a handful of people who had a falling out with the local anarchopunk/squatters' scene for pretty much the reasons mentioned in earlier posts (middle-class white boys high on their own macho BS, groupthink, insular subculture, ...):

http://www.anarchyisorder.org/

(will post more about personal experience later, too busy to write long stories about the good ol' days at the moment — and to be honest, I also totally forgot about this thread)
 
  
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