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Slim
02:02 / 01.12.06
I recently signed up to make monthly donations to a couple charities. It's not much money but I figure that every little bit helps. How many of you do the same? If you do, what kind and what are your criteria?

I picked two charities. One is the typical African relief program that distributes food, helps build infrastructure, and also does microfinancing, a very important but often overlooked function. I also donate to the Catholic Charities outfit that operates locally. I'm not particularly religious but I know that CC is at least a fairly well-run organization and it won't waste my money.
 
 
Slate
03:43 / 01.12.06
Yeah I signed up for the WWF's new yearly subscription. I pay $35.00 a month for a year and get errr... piece of mind? Maybe I guess, something in my brain nags me every month and tells me most charities are corrupt and less than 10% of donations reach intended destinations. I don't want to believe this is the case for all charities though. I have chatted to a couple of aussies in India regarding this, they claim that the charity they worked for even fleeces the takings before they leave Australia! Money donations are where I stop, I have no time for myself these days.
 
 
Spaniel
07:54 / 01.12.06
something in my brain nags me every month and tells me most charities are corrupt

Although I'm sure corruption is a problem under some circumstances (whether that corruption is actually located within the charities themsleves is another question), I suspect your brain is talking arse. Could someone who knows fill us in?
 
 
Olulabelle
08:05 / 01.12.06
I donate a tiny bit each month by direct debit to Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth, Shelter, The British Hedgehog Preservation Society, The Soil Association, and Earth First. I used to donate to lots more when I was living the highlife but I whittled it down when that whole period was over.

I buy the Big Issue once a week from my friend at a vastly inflated price.


If I didn't have a child I would be a permenant protester. I would go to places like the Huasco valley. But I have, so I don't. Instead I try and do things locally. I donate time to Earth First by doing things like the Critical Mass bike ride (one on tonight in Birmingham if you're interested) and a man from Greenpeace is coming to meet me after Christmas to see where I would be useful. I donate time to the Stop Esso campaign by putting stickers up about it everywhere I go. Lately I have taken to putting them on carpark payment booths because I think that way lots of people will see them who ought to see them.

I am trying to fulfil the goals I set myself via Anti-apathy.org's Action Plans. In fact, if you have some time I think joining Anti-Apathy.org is the very best thing you can do, because when you join you pick five groups that interest you and then those groups send you a 12 point action plan which you can follow at your own convenience.

Nina and I are trying to set up a plastic recycling pressure group but I am being slow at setting up the website and need to get on with it.

In terms of casual donations I appear to have become a regular supporter of the Islamic Relief Fund, because they have a box in my local shop. I bet if you added up all the change I put in that box, I probably donate the most to them!
 
 
Not in the Face
08:41 / 01.12.06
Could someone who knows fill us in?

I think it is total arse. In the UK at least charities are extremely regulated - charity accounts have to be very explicit as to how money is used including extensive narratives on how they decided that using the money in that way was appropriate.

In addition the funding of most of the larger charities doesn't come from the public but from government and private trusts. Both of these tend to have stringent monitoring requirements - the London Development Agency for example requires a paper trail for every pound spent and will carry out its own audit to check. This means that most large charities have strong and transparent means of monitoring their cash whatever its source.

The phrase 'most charities' is also ludicrous - most charities have an income of less than £10,000 a year, so its pretty hard to be corrupt with no actual money.

Where there is corruption is in fake fundraising which is a big problem, especially around Christmas - always check that anyone who approaches you in a pub etc has a license from the local authority (or in London, the police) plus legit looking identify badge with the charity's name and registered number on it. But basically that is less corruption than theft.

Most accusations of corruption I've seen are in fact around mismanagement of funds some of which is true (voluntary organisations tend to have low levels of skills in things like financial management) and some of which is due to disagreement over what is the best way to spend the charity's money. Suitcase Rider mentions how much of the money reaches its 'intended recipients' but actually vewry few charities give money away - most of it is spent on services and staff/volunteer costs. To some people this is the most effective way of helping those recipients to others (generally of the more libertarian position) its a self-serving approach by charities to keep themselves in a job. I think that both have valid points but its not corruption.

Suitcase Rider's comments seem to focus on international organisations and there are obviously a lot less controls going on here. This has been discussed before on Barbelith I seem to remember including excellent arguments that you are more likely to see how your money is spent if you give it to local charities and even more so if you give your time instead.

More on topic most of my volunteering in the past three years has been as a trustee for a charity looking at elder care at the moment and before that a mediation charity. Before that I spent a lot of time in a befriending scheme for autistic people. As to why I think its a mix of reasons mostly based around my enjoyment of the work - a mix of the sense of helping people, the chance to do something new or different to my day job and to get a different perspective on life.
 
 
Tabitha Tickletooth
08:57 / 01.12.06
I sponsor a dog through Dog's Trust - his name is Brock and he's a retired greyhound. I've been to see him a couple of times. As I'm not in a position to have a dog at the moment, I would have to say that I selfishly get a lot out of helping Brock. You can sponsor a dog for quite a small amount per month, pick who you want to help and where (so that you can visit if you want to). I've actually sponsored a dog on behalf of an elderly friend of mine as well - it costs me about £50 a year and she loves it. You get xmas, valentine cards and regular letters from your dog, letting you know how they are getting on. I imagine it would be really ace for a kid as well. I also buy stuff from their outrageously kitsch catalogue of all things doggy. You have no idea until you've seen it.

The only other direct debits I do at the moment are Amnesty International, WWF and Greenpeace. Oh, and I'm planning to give my family an Oxfam goat again this xmas, but I vaguely caught some negative press about that this week which I'll look into before I make a decision.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
09:53 / 01.12.06
Inspired by this marvellous thread, I have just donated $40 to the HPLHS Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Shoggoths. They're sending me a couple of CDs in return, but I'm sure it's a proper charity. Does that count?

Apart from that, as I used to give food to the homeless hostel next door and buy almost everything except fags and booze (if only ...) in charity shops, I don't donate directly. Through shopping alone I probably give Age Concern, PDSA, CLIC, Notting Hill Housing Trust, Marie Curie, Mencap, Scope, Oxfam, Cancer Research etc. a good couple of hundred quid each per year.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
09:55 / 01.12.06
(I didn't stop giving food cos I suddenly wanted the homeless to starve by the way - it was cos I left the job where the excess food was coming from)
 
 
Ticker
12:26 / 01.12.06
hey as today is World AIDS Day does anyone have a favorite AIDS org they can recommend? Also any thoughts on the whole Product Red stuffs? Seems kind of overly commercial to me....
 
 
unheimlich manoeuvre
12:47 / 01.12.06
I donate each month to Amnesty International, Friends of the Earth, Action Aid and the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament. Basically covering my conscience regarding the environment, poverty, nuclear war and the protection of human rights. Yes I admit that it's tinged with guilt as it's a fraction of the money I waste on luxuries.
I was a paid street fundraiser for Amnesty in Melbourne back in 2002. Learnt a lot about people trying to stop them in the street. Rather than giving money I often feel I ought to be protesting/volunteering. Not as if I don't have time.
(Looks half-heartedly for a procrastination thread.)
 
 
■
14:59 / 01.12.06
Amnesty beacuse I've been a member ever since a speaker came to our school and made the prospective Tory candidate girl faint by describing what happens during executions (there's more to it than that, obviously, but it was amusing).
Friends of The Earth, because I'm from Newbury.
Sustrans, even though I don't cycle, because I love walking along empty lanes and thinking "I built this".
and Oxfam. Well, it's Oxfam, innit?
 
 
Quantum
16:38 / 01.12.06
most charities are corrupt and less than 10% of donations reach intended destinations. I don't want to believe this is the case for all charities though.

It's not the case for any charities that aren't crooks, and most aren't. Typical charity admin costs are 5%, usually 90%+ of donations go to the cause. I fundraise for a living, the people who run them are usually nice folk.
 
 
pureflook
18:11 / 01.12.06
i give money to a charity called "Corrymeela". It is a peace and reconcilliation organisation working with the conflict in Northern Ireland. I used to work for them.. so i know the money is spent well ( and that they need it!)

I hate Chuggers tho..

(charity muggers)
 
 
grant
00:35 / 02.12.06
grant's family has in the past given Christmas gifts consisting of cards from Heifer International signifying a certain animal has been bought for some farmer in some place where an animal (duck, pig, buffalo, whatever) can make a big difference.

But we've switched to Half the Sky for reasons that should be obvious to most folks here who know me. Half the Sky recently won the Global Giving Open, which I think is kinda cool.
 
 
pony
06:28 / 02.12.06
It's not the case for any charities that aren't crooks, and most aren't. Typical charity admin costs are 5%, usually 90%+ of donations go to the cause. I fundraise for a living, the people who run them are usually nice folk.

perhaps the UK has far more regulation of acceptable charity practices than the US, but if you start checking, a surprisingly high percentage of charities over here have cash flows that fall on this end of the spectrum. i'm certainly not trying to dissuade anyone from charitable action, but I think a bit of scrutiny is warranted even with the big name charities.
 
 
■
09:21 / 02.12.06
One thing to watch out for is whether they are, in fact, registered charities. Both the Charities Commission and Scottish Charities Regulator have searchable databases. All their literature must have a number. Sometimes unregulated "fundraising" companies try to pretend their company registration number is a charity number. Because these people aren't allowed to do on-street collections, they often get in touch with retail companies to see if their collectors (who are usually well-intentioned people don't know they're not working for a real charity) can set up just inside the doorway of a shop. Not all such arrangements are dodgy, but some are, so look for the charity number. If it's six digits it should start with 2, if seven it should start with a 1 (in England)or be prefixed with SC and be six digits long.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
10:06 / 02.12.06
and the Vatican are controlled by aliens?
 
 
■
12:30 / 02.12.06
IS controlled.

I only know this because one such organisation (some nebulous private clinic, it turned out, nothing charitable at all) kept pestering us to let their guy collect in our shop. We said no, but they sent along this nice old bumbling guy anyway. I called the charity commission and they confirmed their "Charity Number" was nothing of the sortm it was their business registration number. When I called the woman in charge she pretended her phone wasn't working properly then hung up and turned it off. It was most definitely a scam and they were using this nice old bloke as an unwitting stooge. It really pissed me off.
 
 
Mirror
20:27 / 02.12.06
My favorite charity is without a doubt Habitat for Humanity. Going on a Habitat trip is by far the best way to take a vacation I've found, and the organization is extremely well run. Jimmy Carter's the man!

My family also regularly donates to Heifer International in lieu of giving Christmas gifts to one another.
 
  
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