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ZF!
20:38 / 29.11.06
What is this all about then?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
23:04 / 29.11.06
Funnily enough, I was reading an article about this combo in 'Mojo' magazine on the train today.

The train went from London to Bristol, and then from Bristol to London, then back again - having seen the photos in the article I could hardly move for the weight of the terrible sadness.

As a younger militay man, I used to have an ongoing nightmae about the worst thing one could wake up to possibly be; the singer in The Alarm, Bruce from Iron Maiden etc - these as options just seemed terrible. You'd almost have to kill yourself, rather than face the horror ... Frankly, I'd rather be the drummer in Def Lep than have to think seriously about the singer in Wolfmother's bleeding hair.

So, a qualified thumbs-down for these guys, then. And especially the singer. And no I don't much care what they actually sound like. The bunch of Frodo Baggins, Home and Away extra shower of gits.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
23:14 / 29.11.06
I'm imagining their Mashall amps, now, covered in 'the red stuff' (not Aftershock)

In all senses of the word then; basicaly, these blokes deserve to be clipped.

Kasabian, from where I'm sitting, seem like the band with ideas in comparisson.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
23:37 / 29.11.06
I wouldn't, of course, have any problem with people making music based on or taking a start from, I dunno, Led Zeppelin, or whatever they choose, but for two things.

One: as Flyboy said, re-appropriation good, reverance bad. I hear/feel reverence here.

Two: this is of course much more floaty and subjective, but I get the feeling these are one of those bands about which people will say they are "bringing back" the "good old days", only the people saying it will be angrier and uglier with little bits of food, maybe sweetcorn, on their lower lip.
 
 
matthew.
02:19 / 30.11.06
Their new single is called "The Joker and the Thief".

Perhaps it's autobiographical.
 
 
Pepsi Max
06:02 / 30.11.06
Not so a "revival', just necrophilia.

It's the fidelity that gets me. They sound like they came straight from 1972.

It's as though the last 30 years of music never happened.

What year is this? Who's THE PRESIDENT????
 
 
stabbystabby
08:40 / 30.11.06
Wolfmother are from Australia. we don't have a president.

the joker and the thief sounds more like a White Stripes ripoff to me, not Zeppish at all.
 
 
lord nuneaton savage
09:01 / 30.11.06
Moaning about Wolfmother being 'retro' is like moaning about a dog for trying to shag your leg.

They have songtitles like 'Woman'. What the fuck were you expecting, pro-tools?

I think they're shite, true enough, but that's it. If I wanna hear blistering early 70s rock I'll listen to Sir Lord Baltimore or Sabbath.

Or Fu-Manchu.
 
 
Pepsi Max
09:04 / 30.11.06
>Wolfmother are from Australia.

Shhhh. I don't want people knowing that.

The video is also pretty dire. It's Wolfmother jerking off (metaphorically as far as I know) with the Jackass, er, jackasses.

I do not have anything nice to say about this band - so I guess I'd better not say anything at all...
 
 
Crux Is This City's Protector.
13:22 / 30.11.06
I feel bad about stuff like this.

I am all about, you know, bringing the Rock (in the happiest, nicest, anti-rockistest way you can, of course), being a big old metalhead and really loving Thin Lizzy and all those crazy retrofied German Space Rock bands.

But not, I guess, about bringing the Rock BACK—not positioning myself, or a band positioning itself, as saviour(s) of rock, or harking back, to a truer, rockinger era. And that, I think, is pretty clear is what guys like these are doing. It's definitely a very fine line, and I don't have a total handle on it yet. But when you listen to Comets on Fire or Colour Haze or Dozer, I mean—these dudes are a bunch of stoner/psych rockers. Full stop. So you could definitely say, you know, 'who's the president' to these fellows as well. But I also think that when you listen to Wolfmother, somewhere between the band name, the song titles, and the actual (rather dull, I'm afraid) songs, you can hear these dudes saying to each other, 'Dude, bro. We should totally start a totally old-school band, like Zep and Ozzy and shit.'

Except in Australian.

And I'm not saying that the dudes in Dozer formed a band out of the organic primordial mass to bring perfect beautiful music to the children of the world. But. The name 'Dozer' is like, really dorky. The name 'Wolfmother' is really dorky, but only in the way that someone obviously sat down and tried to think of the old-schoolest, hesherest band name they could think of. The dudes in Dozer, or Colour Haze, I think, *are* heshers, or at least anachronistic rockers of some stripe, and therefore don't do everything with an eye to falling within a very rigid hesher archetype. They fall within the archetype most of the time, but not on every note—and that's what makes it interesting.

That's my thing, I guess. Wolfmother, and other guys who are Bringing The Rock, are essentially playing pseudo-covers. They're like in college when your friends told you, DUDE WE'RE GONNA BE IN A METAL BAND! (or techno, or ska, or whatever) And they wrote some songs that sounded just like metal, and it was kind of funny. But very few of those bands are you gonna wanna put on your stereo a year later and rock out, in earnest.
 
 
Quantum
13:47 / 30.11.06
the joker and the thief is surely derived from All Along the Watchtower? I'm assuming the Hendrix version rather than Dylan's or any of the other covers.

There must be some kind of way out of here
Said the joker to the thief
Theres too much confusion
I can't get no relief
 
 
All Acting Regiment
14:01 / 30.11.06
Releif would be a fine thing with these fucking clowns.
 
 
rizla mission
14:34 / 30.11.06
Australia has produced so many great rock bands... why does it's music industry keep pushing this weak fucking junk upon the world?

Oh yeah, forgot, because it's the music industry, it does that, life isn't fair, blah.
 
 
lord nuneaton savage
14:39 / 30.11.06
There's always the Radio Birdman back catalog, Riz. It's not all bad.
 
 
matthew.
16:38 / 30.11.06
the joker and the thief is surely derived from All Along the Watchtower?

Hence my joke about the song being autobiographical. DO YOU SEE? DO YOU SEE?

And of course from the Hendrix version, because allegedly Hendrix is the greatest and most influential guitarist in all of the known universe. Allegedly.

Wolfmother makes me think of sucking on a hairy dog-teat. And not the good kind.
 
 
matthew.
16:39 / 30.11.06
*holding a king-can of beer, wearing a OCC shirt*
"Man, Wolfmother is the shit, dawg, but Jet is way cooler and more rock! Yeah!"
 
 
matthew.
16:40 / 30.11.06
Hey, Wolfmother, Dio called yesterday. He wants his album cover back.

Sorry for the triple post; I hate Wolfmother.
 
 
lord nuneaton savage
18:09 / 30.11.06
Shame, they've invited you to their christmas party.
 
 
rizla mission
19:14 / 30.11.06
There's always the Radio Birdman back catalog, Riz. It's not all bad

Yeah, I know, that's why I said "Austrialia has produced so many great rock bands.." - just want to make clear that I wasn't being sarcastic with that sentence... '70s/'80s Australian punk/garage is the motherlode.
 
 
lord nuneaton savage
19:43 / 30.11.06
"in the happiest, nicest, anti-rockistest way you can, of course"

Don't be ashamed chap. Loud Guitars are BETTER.

It strikes me that every couple of years people (y'know, them) rediscover the urge to ROCK (Capital letters, hairy balls) all over again. Remember the Datsuns? Problem tends to be that people (and press) go for the wrong (read: most conservative) bands. (Fuck me, that was a lot of (), wannit?)

Now, Comets on Fire, one of my favourites, are undoubtably in the fine'n'fiery tradition of Led Zep/Sabbath/Deep Purple, an' all that. But it seems to me that, instead of simply sticking to the tried and tested ZepSabs route, they have sought out some of the darker corners of the record shop: those strange places where Amon Duul and Simply Saucer rub axes with James Chance and The Standells, and they've come up fighting.

Does this mean that people with bigger, obscurer record collections make better rock? Not at all. But Comets (and others like them, I'm thinking Oneida especially) see their record collections as inspiration - to be borrowed from and dimissed in equal measure, with an acceptance (and love) of the Great Rock Out and all the cliches that go with it.

But they are also alert to the possibilities that can be wrung from its hairy neck, the signposts that make them think; 'well, if Zep can put a Mandolin on a Rock record, I can sure as sweet fuck stick a Ronettes groove on a hairy-ass riff, mix that up with some Technoid control and see what I get'. To Comets on Fire and their ilk these influences are not dead ends but FUEL TO THE FIRE.

Wolfmother just wanna do Zep riffs. If that's all The Holy Rock is to them then that's fine. But they are dead to me. Dead as burnt hair.

I. Love. Fucking. Rock.

I' Hate. Fucking. Wolfmother.
 
 
the Fool
20:07 / 30.11.06
mmm... Wolfmother were exceptionally boring when I saw them at the Meredith Festival last year. Pompous, slow, and well wanky. This compared with the earth shattering set by the Avalanches and ball tearing RAWK! of Airbourne. Little did I know that it would be Wolfmother that everyone would jump on as 'the next big thing'. gak!

I feel wolfmother are just copying the formula set down by Jet. Just take huge chunks from you favourite band or bands and change some of the words. Example - Jet's 'are you going to go my way' is basically Iggy's 'Lust for life' with different lyrics. Another is Jet's 'look what you've done'. When I first heard it I thought 'I like this new Oasis track, its more beatlesque than usual' LOL!
 
 
lord nuneaton savage
20:34 / 30.11.06
"'70s/'80s Australian punk/garage is the motherlode."

True'nuff. Let's detourne this into a Lime Spiders thread.
 
 
Slate
23:52 / 30.11.06
Yeah I'm with The Fool. I was going to mention Jet as the "new" old trend setters and WolfMother just jumping on the coat tails of old skool rock'n'roll.

Rizla hits the nail on the head:

Australia has produced so many great rock bands... why does it's music industry keep pushing this weak fucking junk upon the world?

Oh yeah, forgot, because it's the music industry, it does that, life isn't fair, blah.


I don't think it's WM fault they have been thrust into the Limelight, more so the "Industry" for sure, who can just see paychecks. Then there are the gullible saps who tune into the label sycophant's Austereo radio stations that pump out the blandest crap all over the country to pubescent kids who pull mum's heartstrings to buy the album to keep the whole horrid cycle going.

Wolfmother just reminds me that the "Music Industry" is perpetuated by people who don't have music as a priority in their life. They have brands, labels and social standing as a priority, the music is just a by-product!1!

I think I'm going to have a good cry now.

Oh, before I do, here is a plug for an Independent Australian band, Del Toro (sorry, could not resist)
 
 
the Fool
02:45 / 02.12.06
My mine gripe with Wolfmother is not that they are regurgitating the past so much, its more for being pompous and un-fun. There set at meredith was ploddy and slow. Not fun to dance to, and not realy 'trippy' or whatever WOW factor they were trying to get from the crowd. It was them wanking off as a rock band and everyone else just got to watch. Dull.

Compare this with Airbourne. Airbourne rip off AC/DC with precision. But they are so funny, every cliche is played out and they do not take any of it seriously. And its fun to dance to as well. The guitarist even did the big power chord jump off the drum kit finale, just as I thought 'So how are they going to end this? Power chord off the drum kit or something?' It was hilarious.

I just found the whole Wolfmother thing sooooo obvious, bordering on the cynical. The same concept as Jet but using Led Zepplin as template. Airbourne at least plug into that great Aussie tradition of pub rock.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
03:34 / 02.12.06
I'm not familiar with their material, so I could easily be wrong, but on the strength of what's been said Airbourne sound suspiciously like a cheap'n'cheerful version of The Darkness. Which doesn't sound like a good thing to be.

It seems to me that if you're going to rock out in the Twenty First century ie, start working in genre that's essentially a joke, then if you're going to be at all funny or interesting you really need to be deadly serious about what you're doing - things have arguably gone a bit far in Norway recently, but at least those guys care.

I'd go as far as to say that in the world of today's kitsch office party overload culture, hard rock bands should mainly be in the business of punishing their audience - I suppose people used to leave Stooges, Swans or Big Black gigs grinning like idiots, but it would have had nothing much to do with irony.
 
 
Crux Is This City's Protector.
15:36 / 02.12.06
Yeah, I gotta come down in the anti-fun camp, too. I do not find fun that fun. Dancing and grinning and 'embracing cliches', or 'deflating' them, or whatever you do to a cliche these days—I find rock much more fun than fun—catharsis, that is, rather than joy. That might make me a dinosaur or a rockist, but if any sort of post-modern awareness is going to make you unable to rock out, then to hell with po-mo awareness. The clicheness, the pomposity, they don't enter into it for me. I come to a rock show in order to give myself over to the whole deal, and to be rocked (so to speak).
 
 
rizla mission
16:16 / 02.12.06
Well said!
 
 
Crux Is This City's Protector.
17:21 / 02.12.06
(should not be read as an anti-po-mo-in-general rant. i am not one given to blaming postmodernism or pc or whatever for my troubles. i'm pretty sure that one can embrace postmodernism and still buy 100% into the catharsis of rock and metal.)
 
 
Michelle Gale
09:19 / 04.12.06
The name of the band: Wolfmother has certain negative gender stereotypes attached to it.

From the song titled "woman":

She's a woman, you know what i mean,
You better listen, listen to me
She's gonna set you free oh oh yeah....


This seems to suggest that homosexual males are not free in the same way as their hetrosexual counterparts. Now I know they australian and as such "culturally backward" but is this acceptable?

There is also their song Joker and a thief (are thiefs jokers? are jokers thiefs? there seems a double standard at work here)

There are also certain connotations and freudian labeling tecniques relating to the song "White unicorn"

And I know it's on your mind
We've been drinking on the wine
That we drank from the serpents vine
Now we live in another time
We could live together
 
 
rizla mission
10:25 / 04.12.06
Thought you were serious with that post until about half-way through..

SO.. does anyone in the world actually LIKE Wolfmother, or have they been devised by the 'industry' as a guilt-free punching bag so that we can all go on about the state of modern music and how much this stuff sucks without actually starting any awkward arguments or damaging the careers of proper bands?

And furthermore, why are the thoroughly lame, fake and over-hyped Black Mountain considered a relatively cool/serious proposition in comparison..?
 
 
Shrug
13:31 / 19.12.06
Hmm, I did quite actually like the mstrkrft remix of "Woman". I couldn't stand to defend Wolfmother, though, just based on hearing one remix.
 
 
ZF!
13:49 / 19.12.06
It's quite amusing, when I first heard them, I thought, "Meh, this sounds like Led Zep, so not very progressive to my ears".

When I asked on here everybody roundly seems to hate them.

Even Mike Patton hates them.

I ask the same question at work yesterday, and everyone is like, "Yeah Wolfmother totally rock doood!! *making bulls horn signs with hands* "

Well I guess I work in IT and everybody is just a bunch of mainstream nerds.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
15:38 / 19.12.06
So there was an interview with these in my student paper this month. I've since lost the thing, but, well, it wasn't particularly interesting, they talked some nobble about being into mantras, and some other stuff about how their songs could help depressed people, I had a good scoff, and I guess I wanted to share that with you.
 
 
Slate
02:19 / 12.02.07
Wolfmother just won a Grammy. I guess I was wrong about these guys, they DO ROCK!
 
 
Quantum
16:23 / 12.02.07
...for their song Woman no less.

The Sydney trio beat an impressive field which included Tool, Nine Inch Nails and System of a Down.

So we're all agreed now they're way better than NIN or Tool, yeah?
 
  

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