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Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters

 
 
Tom Coates
09:46 / 27.10.06
Now I'm probably being a fool, but I've looked around a bit and I can't find anything on Barbelith about the eight-issue Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters book, which is an incredible shame because—although it took me a little time to get into—I'm now sort of stunned by how much fun it is as a book, how much of an anti-Authority it is, how much you can do with a Morrison pitch, some political satire, some good old fashioned ultra-violence, some very very nice painted artwork and a good amount of creative re-imagining of classic characters.

But what surprises me most is that this is a fairly radical storyline for an apparently super-hero comic book in the 2000s - complete with Government robots that want to stamp on freedom and abandon the US Constitution, sanctioned superhero paramilitary assassins and a reimagining of (basically) paramilitary liberals as positive terrorists for good. It seems to me to be directly in Barbelith's flightpath one way or another, whether for good or evil. Is no one reading it?!
 
 
Sniv
10:08 / 27.10.06
If this mini is as good as you say it is, Tom, then it's a cryin' shame it came on the heels of the utterly abysmal Battle for Bludhaven mini, which was a totally insulting waste of time and money by all concerned. What I've seen of Palmiotti and Gray leads me to believe that they couldn't write anything approaching well if their lives depended on it.

Buit it's good you say? Hmmm, I might pick up an issue, if only so I can come back in here and shout at you for wasting £2.40 of my hard-pimped cash.
 
 
Tom Coates
10:21 / 27.10.06
I didn't read the Battle for Bludhaven, but I get the impression from reading things by the creators themselves that they were a little embarrassed by that one too. I'm not going to stand up and say that it's brilliant, but if you can plough through a few issues it starts to have some sufficiently interesting bits (while also being mostly fights between various groups of super-heroes). I'd definitely recommend it as an increasingly entertaining read.
 
 
Jack Fear
11:13 / 27.10.06
See, now, I'd previously dismissed the book as simply cheesecake sex/power fantasies aimed straight at hetero fatbeards.



I've no idea how I came to that conclusion.



No idea at all.








...Oh.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
22:50 / 27.10.06
Tom, if memory's right we've been marginally discussing it at the ATOM thread - for a book also plotted by GM -, or was there a specific one for this that maybe you didn't find? I've had trouble finding a thread with the forum's search engine before.

got mixed feelings with this. I don't think the duo of writers unrolled too well the ideas contained in said pitch. maybe a guy like Ellis could have been the perfect fit for that, if he wasn't exclusive to Marvel. and the art felt too stiff, the coloring muddy in places.

I'm all for the cheesecake, when it applies [?], and was glad to see that the new Phantom Lady is pretty much the anti-Paris Hilton, wearing a Paris-like public to cover her identity.

there are indeed a whole bunch of good ideas and crazy characters in an overall pretty up-to-date plot, for a standard superhero book, to carry on the mini to its conclusion [although it's make for a nice ongoing with a different artist]. I just think the overal rythm is a bit off.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
23:59 / 27.10.06
It's not bad, per se, but it feels too glossy and not fresh enough. And, for fuck's sake, Phantom Lady may be an interesting character but she's coloured and drawn as if she's been exposed to that ceramic "Plastic People" process Jonelle underwent in Mister Miracle. She looks entirely plastic; nobody's breasts reflect light like that. I read the first couple issues but it didn't feel like there was enough substance...
 
 
Tom Coates
07:55 / 29.10.06
Well I'd still recommend picking up a couple of the later issues. It's still a bunch of fight scenes, but it does get more interesting when it hits its stride.
 
 
Sniv
09:41 / 29.10.06
I went to give this a look yesterday and it had sold out (!!). I asked why, and my comics-pimp told me that he only gets a couple of copies in, what with the badness and all. Bittorrent ahoy?

Have thy explained about father time's body hopping yet? I think the SHADE angle would be the most interesting aspect of the mini, giving how well set up it was in Frankenstein - and coversely, why I was so disappointed with the Battle for Bludhaven - this wasn't the SHADE I have just been reading about, and this Father Time was a cock, nothing like the cool-as-fuck-look-at-my-natty-hat dude from the end of the Frankie mini.
 
 
Mario
11:36 / 29.10.06
There was a comment in the Bludhaven mini (the precursor to all of this) about Father Time being "this year's model". That's as much as we've seen.
 
 
Tom Coates
16:25 / 03.12.06
I mean - I know what people mean and everything. Sure it's lots of hitting and stuff and not an enormous amount more, but its theme is the true spririt of America defying the evil poltical hegemony of a sick administration, and it includes regular speeches like:

"Samuel, my poor, sweet Samuel. America doesn't need you. Can' you feelthat deep in those calcified bones? The dream you hoped would materialize is drowning in new technologies, political and social gray areas, and the never-ending war againstn unseen enemy. You exist only in America's imagination. unfortunately, Americans have no imagination. They live and dream vicariously through what they see on Television, in movies and through electronic games. Everyone wants to be someone else. No one want to be you"

and

"This is the brave new world, Samuel. What scares me is a world without control, a planet where there's no morality and no homogenization. Gay marriage, abortion, stem cells, romanesque obesity, chemical pollution, global warming and the worship of false idols. Aliens like Superman and Martian Manhunter are contaminating the human ecosystem. America is becoming Sodom and Gomorrah in ways no one imagined possible. I'm going to restore this nation to greatness by any means necessary."

I mean, it's a bit cod and everything, but at the same time, it's a fucking highly political, idealistic super hero comic book that celebrates democracy, the right of people to choose and the wearing of glam costumes and not cynically exploiting people. You could argue that it itself is ridiculously exploitative and you'd not be far off. But still! It's way more interesting than most of the bunk on the shelves! Is no one else reading this?
 
 
the Fool
04:22 / 04.12.06
I've been getting it Tom and agree with your assessment. I was surprised by how engaging it was, as well as obviously being rather pretty.

I've like how they tackle a few sensitive ideas to, such as Shade using suicide bombers to discredit Uncle Sam and his freedom fighters.
 
 
matsya
21:02 / 05.12.06
that the new Phantom Lady is pretty much the anti-Paris Hilton

sounds intriguing. how does she do this?
 
 
sleazenation
21:11 / 05.12.06
By not being a wealthy heiress, appearing in fewer glossy magazines and not appearing in a popular sextape might be key elements in making her the anti-hilton
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
21:22 / 05.12.06
"You exist only in America's imagination. unfortunately, Americans have no imagination."

If this kind of pompous 6th form "do you SEE?" drivel is typical of the dialogue in this comic, then I'm glad I'm sticking to the ones which are just about hitting and stuff.
 
  
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