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HIV testing and fear.

 
 
Samael
16:58 / 25.10.06
Hello all,

Yesterday I went in for an HIV test, as I admittedly did a dumb thing by having unprotected sex with a lady who, shall we say, has a morally casual attitude, and who lives a rather dangerous lifestyle. I came out negative, but these tests might not pick anything up for 3 to 6 months and our little encounter was only about three weeks ago. The cousnelor at the testing clinic was very positive and tried to be reassuring, but I cannot let go of my fear now, no matter what I do. I have been trying to get in touch with the lady I had the encounter with to see if she has been tested (at all or recently) but havn't been able to reach her. That aside, I just cannot get over my fear, and my regret for not being a bit more responsible in the first place. Has anyone had similar experiences in regards to HIV, fear, and so on?
 
 
Princess
17:08 / 25.10.06
Ha. I wish this thread had existed two months ago.
My boyfriend slept with a guy (which I don't mind at all) but didn't use a condom (which I mind an awful fucking lot). Obviously, there was a reckoning and I reduced him to tears and lots of fun was had by all. However, it took him just over six months to go and get checked out. I forgot for the time and then remembered suddenly. I started imagining what it would be like to know that he had given me HIV. I asked him to go again, he got a bollocking when he tryed to wriggle out of it. I told him that if I had it I would die young, have to live more carefully and that everyday I looked at him I would see him as the guy who killed me. I told him that I didn't want to see that in him but the worry that I might was starting to keep me up at night. *

He went and has been found, at the first test, to be free of all STIs. Obviously I was very happy. So happy that when I got the text I made little whooping sounds on the train.
I completely get your panic. More than likely your story will have an equally HIV- ending. For what it's worth, (and this is probably not that fun to read), the three to six month wait will probably mean you wear a condom from now on. Not really a consollation, but a silver lining of sorts.

*Obviously a HIV+ status isn't the instantaneous death sentence I'm making it out to be. But it was the first (and only) time in our two and a half year relationship where I've said something with the aim of upsetting him. I was being hysterical and enraged. Hence hyperbole, deceit and cliche where used as weapns.
 
 
Ganesh
17:54 / 25.10.06
Me and Xoc both got tested for HIV, when we applied for life insurance as part of a mortgage. At the time, it was explained to us that this wasn't because we were two gay men (ohhh no) but because the premium of our mortgage was above a certain amount. We were both somewhat dubious, but went ahead with it anyway.

I don't think logic particularly applies in such circumstances: we both knew there was little to no chance of either of us being positive, but in the long waiting period, I got disproportionately anxious. I suspect that goes with the territory, and you're going to feel afraid in a "yeah, but what if" sort of way for a while to come. It's easy enough for me to tell you not to worry, but I think you will. Try to keep it a background worry if you can, though.
 
 
Ticker
17:56 / 25.10.06
it's quite understandable. Not to belittle or under cut the wisdom of being tested regularly....but...

I went through a stint where I got tested every 6 months for about 2 years after one particular liason. Finally the nice lady doing the test (same tech & remembered me) asked me why I thought after the last test I might still be at risk if I was no longer engaging in dangerous activity. I told her I felt wrong somehow and she smiled patted my hand and said:

"Honey that's the feeling of shame, not illness."

You know what? In my case she was correct I didn't catch anything but I had done something I was uncomfortable with and the anxiety manifested as the fear of physical disease.

However, however I do agree that being tested multiple times is just plainly the smart thing to do. On top of it I'd suggest looking at what behavior makes you uncomfortable and not doing it again.
 
 
Benny the Ball
18:03 / 25.10.06
I went along with a friend for moral support and got tested so that she wasn't alone. The whole process is so fantastically grave that I was certain that I was dead in the water. Even as I walked into the office and was told by a very serious young man to take a seat before he revealed that I was negative, I was so sure that something would be found. It was such an overall scary experience, and I was just there for moral support! All I can say is that you'll be carefull from now on, and that you'll get tested in sim months or so, and then you'll know. Just remember after that how this all went. For me, the simple promise of another penis smear test was enough to ensure that I never want to go through it again!
 
 
Ticker
18:19 / 25.10.06
I'd add that for serially mongamous folks being tested in between relationships is very smart and for folks with a rotating cast of extras being tested every 6 months or yearly EVEN IF YOU USE PROTECTION is a wise option.

Many of the nasties are treatable and only do harm when they go unchecked and are passed on.

Having to call up your ex's and report your health status so they can go get tested is a very grim moment we'd all like to avoid. For those who are squimish about it many clinics do contact the state who will track your sexual partners and tell them for you. Really.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
18:19 / 25.10.06
B the B, where on earth was this?

Whatever clinic it was does sound a bit as if it should be shut down pretty shortly.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
18:30 / 25.10.06
I've only been tested the once (after finding out some particularly unsavoury things about the girl I'd recently split up with- AND, I hasten to add, about various of my "friends") and I wasn't scared AT ALL.

RIGHT up until just after the test. I think it was the whole "going into the hospital" thing that made it all seem official and dangerous, and I was bricking it after that, right up until I got the results.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
12:29 / 27.10.06
Having The Test is very, very scary business - especially if you've slept with someone in a risk group. I'm not at all surprised that some people are terrified of finding out and avoid getting tested.

I whooped it up a bit at college and got tested then. My last one was just over a year ago - the main reason for taking it myself was to force my new loverrrrrr to take it too so that we didn't have to use condoms. It came out negative but I still get the occasional "what if???" panic attacks.
 
 
Ticker
13:09 / 27.10.06
I think even with condoms it is a good idea to make testing a part of courtship.
One of my college swains and I went to the clinic together on a date and the techs thought it was the best idea they'd ever heard. I'm fairly certain we were doing it because it was daring each other before becoming sexually involved.
"You want me? Come do this scary thing and prove it!"
Ah, art students.

It is really scary and feels like a form of russian roulette, which is a bit skewed as you've been walking in the same state before the deciding to take the test. Maybe its the fear of the dreaded false positive or the superstition of reality taking shape if you invite possibility.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
13:27 / 27.10.06
I will say good luck, but I'm sure you won't need it. I've never had to deal with anything like this so my heart goes out to you.
 
 
Kiltartan Cross
14:19 / 27.10.06
Not to belittle the danger at all, and certainly not to advocate unsafe sex, but (as far as I know) the incidence of HIV transmission from a single instance of unprotected sex is pretty low; one-in-a-hundred or lower. I'd have saved myself a fair bit of worry if I'd known.
 
 
Disco is My Class War
15:25 / 27.10.06
If you're still feeling an enormous amount of fear, as xk says, it's probably more to do with what happened during the encounter than the probability of HIV infection itself. Me, I'd be thinking of what personal demons made you need to be unsafe in the first place. Did you subconsciously want to be dangerous, or to take a risk? That can happen, and it's pretty normal. Perhaps you can find a way to take other kinds of sexual risks that don't involve the risk of HIV or STI's? And, not to make you feel worse, but thinking of your sexual partner as irresponsible is probably not going to help. You're responsible for keeping your body safe, no matter who you sleep with -- whether they're 'morally casual' or not.

HIV tests aren't a drama for me, but a couple of years ago I had a big scare. Something tiny but very weird-looking grew in a significant anatomical area, and my doctor at first thought it was a wart or herpes. My partner and I had been monogamous for two years by then, and she had a moment, I think, of suspecting me of infidelity. Or maybe I had a moment of feeling I needed to prove I hadn't been. It was awful during the waiting period, anyhow. But all the tests came back negative, and eventually the thing was diagnosed as a harmless skin-tag in a pretty odd place.

In the very distant past, I was given a curable STI. It got picked up after it had already started producing possibly-cancerous cells, and I had to have surgery. That really sucked. I never found out who had given it to me, because at that stage in my life, 'safe sex' meant not getting pregnant with lots of people. It was pretty dumb, in retrospect.

Many of the less serious claps can lurk in your system for years without symptoms, and can't be diagnosed without a proper test. And many 'respectable' heterosexual people don't think of themselves as promiscuous, so they never get tested. So, to me, it's not the 'at risk' people you have to worry about, it's those who think they would never catch the clap because they're not in a risk group. (Okay, except for IV drug users, who have to cope with drugs affecting their ability to make safe decisions and various anti-drug authorities making it hard to access clean fits.) The "I would never catch it" folk gaily practice the withdrawal method, or hope that the girl they're sleeping with is on the pill, and avoid using condoms like the plague. I have to say, I have more respect for [mostly queer] self-identified barebackers than those people.
 
 
HCE
13:22 / 28.10.06
Having sex once with somebody who has many partners (which is what I assume you meant with the weird remark about her "morally casual attitude", as I don't see what sacrilege or stealing money from pensioners would have to do with HIV status) does not place you at high risk, so as others have remarked, you probably don't have to worry.

Considering how many people I love who've been lost to AIDS, 1 in 100 doesn't sound low to me -- it sounds terrifyingly high. I am pretty disciplined about getting tested, and I have made clear to my partner that the only time I will have sex without barrier protection is during attempts to conceive.

I must say I've found it rather irritating when lesbians have rolled their eyes at me when I asked about it, as though being a dyke were magic. Being at low risk is no guarantee of anything.
 
 
Princess
13:47 / 28.10.06
That annoys me also Fred. A friend of mine was told, by a doctor, she was wasting NHS time by going to a GUM. My eyes rolled wildly.
My friend, however, was having none of it. She told the doctor that a name badge and a stethoscope do not give a person the right to dictate other people's personal safety standard and that if she had wanted the statistics she would have asked for them.
It was slightly brusque, but the doctor was a cowbag.
 
 
Fist Fun
16:22 / 28.10.06
I remember I was slightly concerned that I might have HIV. Complete and utter paranioa but not the best time in my life. Test was easy just felt weird to be sitting in the hospital.

If you read up about the transmission chances, especially through vaginal sex, then you'll see it is hard to trasmit.
 
  
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