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Black and Orange Magic 2006: Celluloid Spooky

 
 
Feverfew
21:23 / 18.10.06
Following on from this thread, and indirectly linked to another thread, Halloween is approaching, and there's a need for Barbeloids to bring out their Black and Orange movies.

Briefly, though; there have been a lot of horror film threads knocking around on Barbelith previously, and that's just a conservative sampling. So Barbelith can be said to be well-versed in Horror Films to begin with.

It's not Horror films that I'm after, though. Horror is done in great quantity, and has lost some of it's scare value (in my humblest opinion) over the past decade; we've had meta-horror in the form of the Scream and I know what you did last summer movie lines, followed by Horror Comedy (which still persists today in Slither and to an extent Shaun of the Dead), and, more recently, what can be lovingly titled Gore Porn (Hostel, Cabin Fever, any movie that goes into biological detail with the blood). I'm aware that franchised horror also features, but that goes back a long way and even, in some cases, to before I was born, so I'm not prepared to tackle that.

What I am after, in the way of suggestions, is Spooky movies. Not necessarily all-out-horror, but possibly more subtle; the films that put the shivers up the back of the neck or that make you want to sleep with the light on. This sometimes pops up in the oddest places; when I first watched The Hole, I was freaked out, but not scared. (I know, I know...)

Personally, I find "Spooky" in odd places. For instance, Dog Soldiers. It's Horror Comedy, with comedy British Stiff-upper-lip squaddies versus lycanthropes; but what I find spooky is the sense of isolation that's worked in just before all the big shooty-bangs and the sense of being very, very alone (although with Sam the Dog) that the ending has. Rumour has it that a sequel is in the works, but, fortunately, it seems to have stalled.

So. What gives you the chills? What best represents the Black and Orange Halloween spirit in celluloid for you out there?
 
 
Ticker
23:50 / 18.10.06
off the top o'my head:

Lady in white
Session 9
The Ninth Gate
The Changling
Ravenous


Dog Soldiers is probably my current favorite wolfie pic!
The Ginger Snaps are fun though the the III is creepy.
 
 
Triplets
02:40 / 19.10.06
That bit in the Exorcist 3. The bit with the ceiling? Pure fucking creep-out.
 
 
Haloquin
11:24 / 19.10.06
I don't know if it still would, but "Goosebumps; Night of the Living Dummy"... (I think that was the title) really, really creeped me out when I was little.
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
13:13 / 19.10.06
An American Werewolf in London

The Company of Wolves (not strictly a horror movie, per se, but still elegantly unnerving)

Nosferatu

The Eye

I'll think of more. I just got up.

Dog Soldiers is ace, by the way. First time I saw it, I thought it was brilliant. Which is saying something considering my fear of werewolves.
 
 
Chiropteran
14:58 / 19.10.06
Can we maybe not just post lists? What is it about these movies that set them apart, for you, from "regular horror movies?" How do they achieve that "Halloween atmosphere," or whatever? Why would (or wouldn't) we want to rent one of them for the Big Night? Lists really don't tell us anything.

I'll be back with some movie recommendations of my own when I get back from luch...
 
 
Chiropteran
17:00 / 19.10.06
One sandwich later...

...Spooky movies. Not necessarily all-out-horror, but possibly more subtle...

For me, not all Horror movies are Halloween movies - and not all Halloween movies are Horror movies. The distinction is fuzzy, and not terribly consistent, and is definitely not a good/bad value judgement. The elusive quality of "spooky" is one of the main criteria for a Halloween movie, and often an otherworldly quality. Gore does not necessarily disqualify a movie, but it falls low of the list of desireable elements. Also, my favorite Halloween movies are almost exclusively the older ones, from the 30s through the early 70s - their "scare value" is often depleted, but the element of eerie fantasy remains.

A few to start with:

Carnival of Souls (1962): The original, not the dubious Wes Craven remake. This movie set the standard for atmospheric horror. The actors were unknowns, and the budget was so low as to achieve a kind of flat, grey verisimilitude - those aren't sets, y'know? The soundtrack is Nearly Constant Organ-Playing, with limited dialogue and occasional periods of numb silence. The overall effect is uniquely dislocating and eerie. Synopsis: a young woman walks away from a terrible car accident, and leaves town to try to get on with her life elsewhere. Soon she is haunted by a pale, mysterious stranger and her own growing obsession with an abandoned carnival.

Horror Hotel aka City of the Dead (1960): I got this one on the same DVD as Carnival of Souls. Where CoS gets much of its eerie quality from the stark reality of its setting (gone Somehow Wrong), Horror Hotel creates a wholly-contrived, almost stagey, but very vivid Lost New England Village for us to lose ourselves in - fog-drenched, hoary-gabled houses, boarded-up church and decrepit graveyard, and the shadowy Raven's Inn, presided over by the handsomely sinister Mrs. Newless. Mysterious figures loom out of the fog, strange music seems to rise from the very floorboards, and college student Nan Barlow - sent to Whitewood by her history professor (Christopher Lee!) to investigate the local witchcraft legends - may be over her head... A spooky masterpiece. There's also a great, hilarious moment involving Lee, a bird, and the Worst Timing Ever. You'll know what I'm talking about when you see it.

Another Christopher Lee movie I'm really feeling the love for right now is the similarly-titled Horror Express (1973). This is one of my favorite performances by Lee: he plays Professor Saxton who is, frankly, a pompous horse's ass of an anthropologist, and he plays it to the hilt - arrogant, prim, entitled, but also occasionally very funny and stiffly attractive (he even gets his action-hero on, briefly). Opposite Lee is the great Peter Cushing, a slightly scroundrelly professional rival who is very curious about what, exactly, Professor Saxton is keeping in that locked travel-chest. Then people start dying horribly, and the rest is plot. Most of the movie takes place, as the title would suggest, on a train - the constant clack-clack is terrific, and gives the film a firm sense of presence. The horror elements are effective without being elaborate, and the Science is suitably Mad (circa 1909). No, really, there are some Very Strange Ideas here, but it works. Oh, and Telly Savalas(!) makes a late appearance as "one honest Cossack" - an ambivalent antagonist and all-around sexy beast (check out his underhand throw). Fun movie, eerie, and deliciously lurid.
 
 
Feverfew
17:00 / 19.10.06
As Lep says; suggestions are good but lists aren't really what I was looking for. I suspect I should have elucidated more before, but it's more the reason that what you're suggesting is so spooky, whether it be something utterly personal or something more general.

For instance; Ghostbusters. It's not that spooky in general, and, hey, it's a comedy; but there's a brief moment while Ray and Winston are driving across the bridge; they suddenly stop all the crazy-ass running round New York, trapping 'ghosts', and have the following exchange;

Dr Ray Stantz: Every ancient religion has its own myth about the end of the world.

Winston Zeddemore: Myth? Ray, has it ever occurred to you that maybe the reason we've been so busy lately is because the dead *have* been rising from the grave?

[long pause]

Dr Ray Stantz: [Turns on radio] How 'bout a little music?

And then there's the brief slowing-down-before-third-act moment. But it's just two people having an exchange about the possibility of the end of the world in the middle of a comedy film that's... Well, to me, a little spooky.
 
 
GogMickGog
08:09 / 20.10.06
Dead of Night (1945) is a fine example of this type. After all these years it's much less scary than creepy but there are still aspects of the narrative which really get under the skin: the sense of trapped helplessness implicit in the circular dream structure, for example, along with the underlying question of what it is that's bothering the protagonist all the way through (answered in quite mucky style). The final descent into madness, with all the stories referenced in one heady rush, is still astonishing.

I suppose the creepiest films, for me, are those which tap into latent anxiety: fear of death and isolation. The ending of Don't Look Now, for example, is so much more bleak because the character has been lead towards it the whole time and never noticed. If that isn't classic fear of mortality rejigged, I don't know what is..
 
 
Feverfew
19:37 / 24.10.06
Thank you for all the suggestions!

Brief bump - it's only a week to go, folks - and apologies that I'm a bit rushed and can't add anything right at this minute.
 
 
_Boboss
19:55 / 24.10.06
i saw my new favourite film at the weekend - it's called 'night of the demon', was made in 1957, and qualifies for this thread by having a character based on aleister crowley doing a halloween party for some kiddies. based on m r james' 'casting the runes', it's top ten on britishhorrorfilms.co.uk's all time list, and there's a very healthy torrent out there for the having. hie thee to the spy.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:00 / 24.10.06
Ooh, I love Night Of The Demon.

"It's in the trees! It's coming!"
 
 
Spaniel
20:25 / 24.10.06
Yep, thas one great movie.
 
 
Spaniel
20:33 / 24.10.06
The Woman in Black

The movie, not the stage play or the book, although both of those are very excellent indeed. Some info here.

And then there's the BBC's excellent A Ghost Story for Christmas series.

Not sure whether any of the above are available outside the UK or as torrents, but if you're British you should seek them out.
 
 
Evil Scientist
09:34 / 26.10.06
Blair Witch still manages to make me uncomfortable so I may give that a go next Tuesday.

I'm planning on avoiding those pesky trick or treaters in the usual manner of turning out all the lights in the house and watching a decent horror flick all alone in the dark.

The hit list for 2006 is:

Prince of Darkness.

Blair Witch Project.

Evil Dead (the original has much more emphasis on scares than laughs)

Psycho.

Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer.

Thoughts?
 
  
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