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Diet and behavior

 
 
grant
20:46 / 17.10.06
Here's an article on a recent study about Omega-3 fatty acids and juvenile delinquents.

The UK prison trial at Aylesbury jail showed that when young men there were fed multivitamins, minerals and essential fatty acids, the number of violent offences they committed in the prison fell by 37%. ... And this week, new claims were made that fish oil had improved behaviour and reduced aggression among children with some of the most severe behavioural difficulties in the UK.

Which is kind of exciting.

We are suffering, [researcher James Hibbeln] believes, from widespread diseases of deficiency. Just as vitamin C deficiency causes scurvy, deficiency in the essential fats the brain needs and the nutrients needed to metabolise those fats is causing of a host of mental problems from depression to aggression. Not all experts agree, but if he is right, the consequences are as serious as they could be. The pandemic of violence in western societies may be related to what we eat or fail to eat. Junk food may not only be making us sick, but mad and bad too.


He also says what he thinks is going on:

Over the last century most western countries have undergone a dramatic shift in the composition of their diets in which the omega-3 fatty acids that are essential to the brain have been flooded out by competing omega-6 fatty acids, mainly from industrial oils such as soya, corn, and sunflower. In the US, for example, soya oil accounted for only 0.02% of all calories available in 1909, but by 2000 it accounted for 20%. Americans have gone from eating a fraction of an ounce of soya oil a year to downing 25lbs (11.3kg) per person per year in that period. In the UK, omega-6 fats from oils such as soya, corn, and sunflower accounted for 1% of energy supply in the early 1960s, but by 2000 they were nearly 5%. These omega-6 fatty acids come mainly from industrial frying for takeaways, ready meals and snack foods such as crisps, chips, biscuits, ice-creams and from margarine. Alcohol, meanwhile, depletes omega-3s from the brain.

To test the hypothesis, Hibbeln and his colleagues have mapped the growth in consumption of omega-6 fatty acids from seed oils in 38 countries since the 1960s against the rise in murder rates over the same period. In all cases there is an unnerving match. As omega-6 goes up, so do homicides in a linear progression. Industrial societies where omega-3 consumption has remained high and omega-6 low because people eat fish, such as Japan, have low rates of murder and depression.


If you're curious about the methods:

The researchers at the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, which is part of NIH, had placed adverts for aggressive alcoholics in the Washington Post in 2001. Some 80 volunteers came forward and have since been enrolled in the double blind study. They have ranged from homeless people to a teacher to a former secret service agent. Following a period of three weeks' detoxification on a locked ward, half were randomly assigned to 2 grams per day of the omega-3 fatty acids EPA and DHA for three months, and half to placebos of fish-flavoured corn oil.

An earlier pilot study on 30 patients with violent records found that those given omega-3 supplements had their anger reduced by one-third, measured by standard scales of hostility and irritability, regardless of whether they were relapsing and drinking again. The bigger trial is nearly complete now and Dell Wright, the nurse administering the pills, has seen startling changes in those on the fish oil rather than the placebo.


Salmon, anyone?
 
 
grant
20:48 / 17.10.06
By the way, we've had other threads on fast food being addictive and food dyes altering behavior in the past.

Anyone know of anything else along these lines? Anyone have any wild theories that could be tested?

This would be the thread....
 
 
Ticker
12:34 / 18.10.06
this is a great topic! My green coat health care folk tell me not all fish oil is created equally. Because in capsule form it breaks down many brands are loaded with nasty preservatives. It's important to get a quality brand and to treat it like food with an experiation date.

I'm always depressed when I read the fish advisory statement in my healthfood store. It lists all the pollution derived chemicals in various fish. I'm told cold water fish have the highest beneficial omegas but often they have some of the worst ratings. Here in New England you're advised not to eat any locally wild caught freshwater fish at all because of the level of toxins.

...off to buy more fish oil. Oh and for those who loathe the infamous 'fish burps' I suggest Cinnamon flavored oil as it tends to cancel out the fishiness.
 
 
otto628
03:13 / 21.10.06
Glad of this threads existence.

My name is Rich and I've lurked here for quite a while.

As someone who was diagnosed with ADHD when he was five years(I'm 34, an old fart by some standards), I've seen a lot of different treatments, theories around that set of symptoms known as:
ADD
Hyperactivity
ADHD
Hyperkinnetic behavoir

Grant posted a link about the impact of food dyes on behavior.

before I visit this link, I am sure that it ties in with
salicylates and other additives that impact behavior.

I remember reading --about-- an FDA pamphlet/report that detailed how a study that was done by the National Institute of Health regarding the affect of dyes and flavorings upon the impact of children was adversely impacted by corporate interests.

It turned out that the steering committee behind the study was composed of representatives of Kraft, Pepsi, Coke, and General Mills. To name a few. Basically, the movers and shakers behind the processed food lobby.

This link will bring up an Adobe(pdf) file that details the politics behind this FDA endorsed ''study''

www.cspinet.org/new/adhd_resch_bk02.pdf
Page 32 breaks it down in detail
 
 
otto628
03:29 / 21.10.06
Additionally,

from my own un-scientific POV, having toned down my junk food to once every couple weeks, I can say that it most definitely impacts my perceptions.

Heightens impulsivity

heightens feelings of paranoia

This is usually what accompanies a 'sugar crash' for me.....the scenario being that I've eaten a few cookies and experience the inevitable sugar rush...but then after a period of time, the crash sets on.

This is likely why I don't really eat junk food out in public....the hangover effects can be kinda ugly..

LOL
 
 
Saturn's nod
10:02 / 21.10.06
I think mineral composition's relevant here too. In Europe we have soils built through extensive glaciation; they are naturally mineral rich. However, half a century of intensive cultivation whilst replacing generally only NPK (Nitrogen, Phosphorus usually as phosphates, and Potassium) has led towards depletion in other minerals: calcium, iron, magnesium, zinc, sulphur etc. So food these days has only a fraction of the trace minerals that it had a hundred years ago: and I beleive factory processing techniques reduce that still further though I'm fuzzy on how that actually happens. Trace minerals are essential for functioning in all kinds of proteins and I think it's worth keeping an eye on the balance.
 
 
StarWhisper
18:34 / 22.10.06
Foods containing sugar are definately bad. The sugar highs and lows you get obviously make people maore erratic and aggressive. Docters are known to tell people who have post viral depression or are bi-polar especiallly should avoid sugary foods and caffeine.
It is apparently difficult to get all the proteins your brain needs to operate properly without eating meat,fish and eggs, in such cases although it would be good if somebody could clarify that.
I did also read that a super healthy diet can lower your heartbeat to 60 bpm without a big increase of physical activity.
 
 
Saturn's nod
14:49 / 24.10.06
It is apparently difficult to get all the proteins your brain needs to operate properly without eating meat,fish and eggs, in such cases although it would be good if somebody could clarify that.

I don't think foods containing high levels of sucrose and caffiene contribute much to protein requirements: was that what you meant to write?

Perhaps this is related: not scientifically validated, but I have not yet found any healthy gluten-free vegans; all the vegans I know who look decent & report reasonable health eat a lot of bread. Breadwheat I think is usually >12% protein by mass at harvest but maybe under-recognised as a protein source. I like the beyondveg site for some discussion about nutrition and various non-animal diets.
 
 
StarWhisper
17:03 / 24.10.06
No, I meant that sugar and caffeine cause aggression and mood swings but more so in people who already have mood disorders and I read somewhere that your brain needs different kinds of proteins in order to function properly, that it is not possible to get all of these proteins from one food and that it is incredibly difficult to get 100% of them from non meat or dairy sources. But I am not sure if this is correct.
 
 
Ticker
17:53 / 24.10.06
Saturn, I'd be surprised if that many vegans are doing well because of modern bread.

the healthy ones I know are due in large part to organic local farm fresh raw produce, all the nutrients coming from the well tended soil again.
 
 
otto628
03:10 / 26.10.06
A good book that touches directly on Grant's post is Udo Erasmus'
"Fats that heal, Fats that Kill"
LINK Here
 
 
otto628
03:14 / 26.10.06
And here's a proper link to what I posted earlier,

ADHD Research Concerning Food Additives and Preservatives
 
 
guitargirl
07:43 / 05.04.07
Sorry to bump an old thread..

I noticed that certain foods and drink were affecting the behaviour of both me and my son, so a diet change was started.. On caffeine I get hyper silly and bounce around laughing my head off, then after a while I go into a massive slump and need to sleep for a few hours, but also when having strong coffee before work in the mornings I was irritable and aggressive and a bit of a nightmare on the motorway on the way to work and when I arrived at work I wanted to argue and kill my co workers..but now I have to have decaff coffee and Im perfectly chilled out

My son cant have coke, fizzy crap to drink or colour/sugar laden sweeties - if he did would become gobby and generally a bit of an arsehole, so his diet was changed and he is a lovely little lad now. Plus I put him on mutli vits and omega oil caps, and he claimed that after 5 minutes he could tell the difference and felt really brainy and then went off reading his school books haha (He's 8!!)
 
 
grant
14:57 / 05.04.07
It's interesting, actually (and completely anecdotally), but I live in a house with three children, and they each react very differently to sweets. The middle one -- she becomes totally wired after getting a lollipop or a "Sprite-soda." It might be interesting seeing if some oil supplements affected this response....

Yes, experimenting on the children. Oh, yes.
 
 
jentacular dreams
15:09 / 05.04.07
Hmm

Possible experiments aside, are ther any other observations you've noted? How do they (or she) respond to nonprocessed sugars, homemade cakes, lemonades and the like?

If they're previously tired (e.g. having been out for a long walk [or handcuffed to a treadmill]), will the sugar bring them back up to normal energy, or simply make them irritable?
 
 
grant
01:35 / 06.04.07
The middle child, any processed sugar product will drop her into high gear, and if there's enough of it, into overdrive.

We're also trying to isolate a possible food allergy related to some pretty severe evening temper tantrums. They only seem to happen when she's been with cousins for the afternoon, which means eating fast "food." At first we thought it might just be exhaustion from playing so hard, but when they all stay here and eat food from ground, it doesn't really happen. I'm not sure it's not just a crash from sugar, but when it happens, it's a pretty big crash.

There's also something in the world that gives her hives, but we haven't been able to isolate that at *all*, which is intensely frustrating.

Here, by the way, is the medical rundown on food allergies. It's not very definitive on allergies & behavior (in the "Controversial" section).
 
 
Ticker
01:53 / 06.04.07
grant, have you done an elimination diet with the kiddo? I was put on a safe if somewhat boring diet for a few weeks by my greencoats and then added items back in one at a time to find the culprits. Worked out great but might be hard to pull off with a tiny.
 
 
grant
14:09 / 06.04.07
In a kind of half-assed way, yes. The half-assedness undermines its validity, though, especially since babysitting is a key feature of our existence now.
 
 
Ticker
14:21 / 06.04.07
Also do the hives show up in high stress situations/food changes or do they seem purely contact related?

I strongly advocate a food journal for folks. Maybe even if babysitting is the thing you could ask the caregivers just to record what is given to the kiddo? Most folks are very willing to help track down an allergy that way. Later if you suspect a food item you can just request that particular thing be replaced.

Socially I've witnessed people willing to be far more helpful about food restrictions when they presented as allergies. We use this my spouse when dining out as he hates onions. Saying 'no onions, please' gets crappier results than saying 'no onions, please, I'm allergic'.
 
 
jentacular dreams
20:54 / 06.04.07
Grant, re the food allergy. I've got a passing familiarity with immunology and you could try giving her an anti-inflammatory when she gets back from her cousins'. If the 'crash' and tantrum seem reduced, chances are it's a proper allergy. If not, it's more likely to be an intolerance. In either case she may eventually grow out of it though.

I second the food journal idea though. She could even start keeping it herself (maybe as a 'gateway drug' to a more general diary-/journal-/blog-writing habit).
 
  
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