..so we're going to be talking about them when they can't respond which yes the FI thread has shown people hate and it pushes their limits. Once the freeze comes off I suspect we'll just be opening the door on a whole lot of yelling.
In my opinion, there should be an onus on other posters not to talk about the 'frozen' suit (and I think this is doable). I see the point of short-term 'freezes', at least (and I'm thinking 24, 48 hours), as presenting an opportunity for the board in general to catch its breath. PM discussion may well be taking place, of course, but I agree that if a 'freeze' is agreed for 'time-out' reasons, the absent suit shouldn't be openly discussed.
I'd be really surprised if a freeze would be agreed upon fast enough to respond to a flash in the pan bout.
I wouldn't. Not a short-freeze, anyway. Depends on the number of moderators required, obviously, and the number of moderators in general.
I think we're talking about a few days of sustained ill behavior to move to a freeze? Enough posts have to be generated for the board to believe more than an on topic brawl has broken out. Lot's of forums are very hands off for at least a while to see if like the God is Imaginary thread it can sort its own shit to sack ratio.
Sure - and different forums would presumably evolve their own response times and styles. I expect there'd be a lengthy period of experimentation before we'd have much of an idea how (and whether) this would work.
I may regret saying this someday but no I haven't ever gotten into a multi-page flame war on a board when drunk, stoned, or residing in a different perception of reality.
No doubt this is a factor in your holding the opinion you do, then.
Nor do I believe a poster should have the luxury of being released from the responsibility of their actions by thinking 'someone will turn me off if I go too far'.
That's one way of looking at it, I suppose. I actually think that if people are able to say, "I'd like to be locked out of my suit for 48 hours" in the way they currently ask people to scramble or hold their passwords for them, then that might not necessarily be a Bad Thing.
So I'm thinking we're looking at a reaction to sustained possible mental health issue specificly.
Operative word there being "possible". I'm not sure that it's necessarily easy separating that possibility from the aforementioned drugs/alcohol/caught up in the moment scenarios.
The banning proccess is lengthy to make sure it is correct, the freeze proccess being reversible is being viewed as a solution to stop the flow immediately and therefore needs to be somehow quickly (in comparison to banning) activated?
Compared to banning, yes, the suit-freeze would be a quicker option. Not immediate, necessarily, but quicker.
It doesn't seem to be geared to calming folks down as much as shutting them up.
AFAIK calming people down requires interaction, hearing their issues & helping resolve disputes etc.
Sure - but sometimes it's not easy or possible to do that in public, in the heat of the moment. Sometimes that interaction/issue-hearing/dispute-resolution is facilitated by withdrawal from the public board, where the input of others tends to escalate things.
Maintaining PM contact would go some way to preserving channels of communication while pulling back from the playing-to-the-gallery phenomenon (on all sides, if talking about the poster is also stopped).
The current banning process is very draining but I haven't seen anyone really claim censorship within that framework. If a freeze denies someone the ability to interact there would have to be a goodly process of interaction before hand for it to be supported by the whole board. How would that be less draining than a banning?
Because it wouldn't be ongoing. There would be a chance for all concerned to breathe, step back, reappraise their own behaviour. It happens.
Let me reiterate that I think a short-term suit-freeze should also involve
a) preservation of PM contact
and
b) an embargo on discussing the frozen suit.
Should we really be just looking at a model where if you get banned for one of these issues the board will allow you to return under probation?
I think we're talking about a number of issues, and they probably require individual consideration. I do think, though, that the maintain-PMs-and-don't-talk-about-'em thing is probably a good rule of thumb for the immediate period following any suit-freeze. |
