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Quantum
13:39 / 18.09.06
Quantum Touch, mentioned in another thread, seems to be a healing technique. Anyone know anything about it?
 
 
Quantum
13:52 / 18.09.06
Event Horizon I'm looking at you...
I am experienced with "Quantum Touch", which is basically Reiki under a bit more western paradigm and does not require attunements, and the reiki practitioners that I know that use it no longer use Reiki as they feel Quantum Touch can do everything that Reiki does plus some extra bells and whistles to make things go smoother. Matrix on the other hand is a completely different animal.

Apparently, Matrix Energetics was developed by Seattle local Chiropractor and Naturopathic Doctor, Dr. Richard Bartlett. They have developed a concept using the basic principles of quantum physics to change the reality state we live in.

Here's Matrix Energetics dot com, which says on the front page
The Matrix is the frame on which the canvas of reality is stretched. It allows us to move beyond healing into personal transformation. It is, in fact, a way to reconstruct our reality.

Hmm. Personally it looks like tarted up life coaching to me.
 
 
Quantum
13:57 / 18.09.06
Derr me am stupid head- here's quantum touch dot com.

Quantum-Touch teaches simple breathing and body awareness exercises that can be easily learned by everyone.
In principal the Quantum-Touch practitioner learns to focus and amplify life-force energy, which is most often referred to as “Chi” or “Prana”. This is accomplished by combining various breathing and body awareness exercises. When the practitioner holds a high vibrational field of life-force energy around an affected area, through a process of resonance and entrainment, the client naturally matches the vibration of the practitioner, allowing one’s own biological intelligence to do whatever healing it deems necessary.
 
 
ESOZONE : Oct 10 - 12 PDX 2008
14:04 / 18.09.06
I've never been touched like that, but I've seen people practicing it.

Basically the girl doing it told me that she would lay her hands on the places affected with pain, and then find a way to push it around the body, until it could find its natural way out, and let good vibrations come rolling back in.

Sort of like knocking a pool ball around until you get it sunk... apparently.

I don't need to tell you that its in the 'crytal healing new age section of love love love' files, but having not experienced it, my opinion on the thing is that people may just need to be touched in a healing way with compassion.

Mammals need physical cuddling and love, and the ones who dont end up feeling like runts, so maybe it carries over into psychosomatic effects, because thats all of what it seems like it is able to cure.

pulled from quantumtouch.com faq:

"How Quickly Will People Heal?"
[...]
"Sometimes people keep a condition because they haven't learned what they needed to learn from it. All conditions we experience in life have the potential to provide lessons for us. This is especially true of disease, illness, injury, emotional upset, etc. Often a person's condition is just a wake-up call for them to pay attention to their life. Did they get the message? If not, they may hold on to the condition until the whole process is complete."


"Your bad posture and following back problems are now solved! [... because you don't just stay hunched and mope around looking at your shoes anymore!]"

Still, I can't say I hate that explaination of pain and illness.

So who knows... anyone been touched?
 
 
Quantum
14:51 / 18.09.06
Mammals need physical cuddling and love, and the ones who dont end up feeling like runts, so maybe it carries over into psychosomatic effects, because thats all of what it seems like it is able to cure.

Well they claim that it works on roses too so I think you need to reassess that simplistic explanation...
 
 
Quantum
14:57 / 18.09.06
the girl doing it told me that she would lay her hands on the places affected with pain, and then find a way to push it around the body, until it could find its natural way out, and let good vibrations come rolling back in.

That's quite interesting- seeing the pain as an object to get out I mean. When I do my (strictly amateur) healing hands I imagine healing vibes going *into* the area afflicted, or the pain evaporating away or dissipating somehow like being diluted.
 
 
ESOZONE : Oct 10 - 12 PDX 2008
15:32 / 18.09.06
Thats it! I declare roses are mammals. :P

Oh yeah, I remember something else I heard that day from the Quantum Touch folks. Someone mentioned that whole theory about how if you bless water, it becomes different under a mircoscope or something, and carried that over to our bodies being made mostly of water, ect, ect.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
16:17 / 18.09.06
That's a variation on the theories of Masaru Emoto. Utter rubbish conceived to sell credulous hippies expensive vials of "happy water".
 
 
Char Aina
16:59 / 18.09.06
emoto's research was featured in the worst movie of all time, what the bleep do we know.

some credulous hippyganda from the makers of that movie here.

they have a What the BLEEP – Down the Rabbit Hole, Quantum Edition now.
QUANTUM!
like the physics!
 
 
EventHorizon
17:42 / 18.09.06
Howdy...I will be happy to relate my own experiences with Quantum Touch (and even Matrix Energetics if you like) and how it very unexpectedly sucked me into the vortex of possibilities. Little did I know that some eBook I downloaded off of eMule just to be open minded would send me the direction that it did. Hitherto this and the events that lead up to this, I was quite the staunch atheist. Unfortunately I'm at work at the moment so it will have to wait for a few hours. I would like to also add that I personally have no use for Emoto's work, and find most of the "new age" sector unappealing. No digs against anyone who finds it useful, as to each their own.
 
 
Quantum
19:16 / 18.09.06
Thanks EH, that will be cool.

For those unfamiliar with Emoto, He placed distilled water between two speakers for several hours and then photographed the crystals that formed after the water was frozen.

It's bullshit, James Randi has publicly offered Emoto one million dollars if his results can be reproduced in a double-blind study. Emoto has not responded to the offer.
But let's leave him for another thread, quantum touch quantum touch!
 
 
*
21:31 / 18.09.06
Offtopic, but fuck, I wouldn't respond to James Randi if he offered me a million dollars to spend an hour in a room with him and nothing more. Not that I think the Emoto study is verifiable; just saying, not dignifying Randi with a response isn't necessarily proof of anything.

So, quantum touch. What's quantum about it, other than people like the word?
 
 
Char Aina
22:14 / 18.09.06
i think jack covered the usage in the post i linked to earlier, and i think it's an applicable take on it;
QUANTUM!
like the physics!
 
 
EventHorizon
17:14 / 21.09.06
OK, so as promised, here's my story on QT:

So last November, at a Thanksgiving party on the roof of a friend's apartment, I meet this rather interesting fellow. He tells me that he's an Electrical Engineer and that he writes code for microchips that will be going into GM's fuel cell car. I find this quite interesting, and then he tells me (quite seriously) that he also does Chinese "no touch" energy healing. I smile and nod, but on the inside I can't help but see a gaping chasm between these two fields. At time time I was quite a staunch Atheist, and it was hard to me to swallow that someone as "smart" as an Electrical Engineer would also be interested in something as "silly" as energy healing.

So I asked him if his energy healing interest was related to his spiritual background, and he replied,
"No, I've been an Atheist most of my life, but I was walking on the beach one day when a man approached me and started talking to me about energy work. He held out his hand and I could quite clearly feel strong heat coming from his hands. I was curious, so I took his course. Now in my spare time I run a successful energy healing practice. My biggest problem though is that usually I'm able to take care of whatever problems my clients have with one session, and they don't come back!"

So the rest of the afternoon passed without event, but this odd set of happenstance piqued my own curiosity in what this stranger was jabbering on about. I'd always tried to keep an open mind when I could help it, so I started Googling around on "Energy Healing", and found this guy named Richard Gordon who was teaching something called "Quantum Touch". I thought the name was rather cheesy, but the process looked interesting enough, and they advertised a book for sale teaching the process, which I promptly found and downloaded a PDF of online.

The book was, much to my surprise, quite down to earth, and mostly free of the "new age mumbo jumbo" I had feared it might contain, despite the unappealing title. The book focused almost entirely on the process of the work rather than anything else, which was quite appealing to me.

Also, much to my surprise, I found that in one evening, from skimming the various chapters of the book, I was able to make happen what the book described. In fact, quite easily. Basically, through directing focus on different parts of the body, breath-work and a few other tricks, I was able to generate this strong tingling feeling in my hands, on-demand. Sort of like the feeling one would get if their foot fell asleep, but in a more outward way, like I was sort of pushing something from my hands.

This was all well and good, but just because I was able to make my hands tingle certainly didn't mean I was doing anything out of the ordinary. I had read that because of the way energy healing works, that the proximity of the "target" doesn't really matter all that much. So with that in mind, I decided to call my friend living ~2000mi/~3200km away, who wasn't into this stuff, but had an open mind, so I knew he wouldn't think I'd gone off my rocker.

I told him I was reading a book on Energy Healing, and that if he'd humour me, I'd like to try to send him some "energy" to see if he'd get it. To my surprise he was quite interested in the notion, and was curious himself.

So I thought of my friend, thought of where he lived, pictured him in my mind, and started to "run energy", as the QT book calls it, from my hands. It seemed to flow quite freely from my hands this time, as if it had a place to go. I asked my friend, "Can you feel anything?"

"Actually, I think I can. I feel this very warm tingling sensation in my left shoulder that wasn't there before."

Hmm. That was somewhat interesting, but it certainly could have been my suggestion that caused him to feel anything at all, so I decided to set up a miniature, semi-scientific test over the phone. I explained to him that as we talked, I would either be sending him energy, or not, and that when I asked, he would have to ascertain whether he thought he could feel anything.

So, we chatted for a good couple of hours, and every so often, I'd ask him, "Can you feel anything now," and he'd reply with something like, "No. Nothing" or "Yes, in my right wrist". For whatever reason the positive answers always ended up being his shoulder or his wrist. I was just sending energy to the general domain of my friend, and according to what I'd read, it would make its way to where it was needed most.

So over the course of our conversation, I asked him around 25 times if he could feel anything, doing my best to try to make sure the tone in my voice didn't lead him to answer either way.

He got the "test" right 24 out of 25 times. I was floored. On top of that, the one time he got it wrong, for whatever reason I wasn't able to build up a tingling feeling in my hands.

That phone call really rocked my boat. There definitely seemed to be something there. This was, at least in my mind, no longer the domain of delusion or wishful thinking. Or was I now the deluded wishful thinker, along with the rest of them? It took a good week or so to wrestle with that paradigm interrupting event.

I decided that there definitely seemed to be something to this whole "energy" phenomena, and it was worth taking a closer look at. I suddenly had more respect for this stranger I had met on Thanksgiving, and I gave him a call, and told him a bit about my experiences. He laughed at how similar they were to his own intial experiences, and told me about this new type of energy healing he'd found called "Matrix Energetics". He said it was much different compared to the types of work he'd done before, and said if I was interested in the whole phenomena, that I should consdier going to the seminar they were holding in February.

I decided that would probably be interesting, because if I was able to make what I supposedly made happen just by reading a PDF in an evening, I couldn't imagine what I might be able to do with a weekend seminar with live teachers.

As it would turn out, I was not be disappointed in the least...
 
 
Quantum
17:36 / 21.09.06
*bated breath*
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
18:04 / 21.01.07
So then what happened?
 
 
Closed for Business Time
19:45 / 08.02.07
... so what did happen? EventHorizon?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
12:35 / 09.02.07
Since the thread is near the top of the forum again, I would like to announce the latest new form of energy healing, which I myself have developed in consultaion with my accounta-- with my Spirit Guide. I call it Matrix Crystal Indian Native American Wolf Cat Angel Spirit healing. Needless to say it not only knocks Quantum Touch into a cocked hat but makes Reiki look like a used Elastoplast.

This new system was gifted to me in a vision, recieved after many long gruelling minutes spent utterly alone in the spiritual retreat of Bar Throom. Having exhausted the wise texts engraved upon the ancient metal canister known enigmatically as Pledge, I discovered atop the washing-basket, as if placed there by some guiding angel, the Rare and Fabled Argos Gift Catalogue. Inside this small but richly-illuminated tome, I beheld sacred images as of Angels, encrusted with real cubic zircona; I gazed upon the mystery of the newborn infant, lovingly crafted in velvety-soft polyacriloid. I saw the mystery and wisdom of the Native American captured in a tasteful wall-plaque, complete with real Austrian crystal inset.

Having performed the Final Cleansing Of The Hands, I left the sanctuary and set out to spread the word of my discovery amongst the poor and the suffering. Well, the suffering, anyway. It is now my sworn mission to contact others who will recognise this gift, and who will open unto me not just their minds, but their hearts, their souls, and their wallets.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
12:41 / 09.02.07
Sounds cool, Mordant- does it also come in Dolphin?
 
 
Quantum
17:03 / 09.02.07
I signed up for the deluxe $599.99 Matrix Crystal Indian Native American Wolf Cat Angel Spirit healing weekend course with Guru Carnival, and was initially sceptical of the bold claims made. I wanted a magical healing system that would provide instant results, requiring no effort, that I could learn in five hours and that I could also use to levitate my cat Sabrina and fire mind-bullets.

As it would turn out, I was not be disappointed in the least...
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
17:22 / 09.02.07
"Dolphin" only becomes available to Enlightened Masters who have been initiated at the 11th grade. The 10th grade is "marmot."
 
 
Quantum
18:30 / 09.02.07
I only attained grade 9 (Lemur) before my cash ran out. However, I am founding an Abbey of The Lemur in Cefalu, Sicily...

(apologies to TotL.net)
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
18:33 / 09.02.07
If your cash ran out, it's a sign that you are not yet evolved and enlightened enough to partake of the Mysteries of the Marmot. If you were, the money would have been made available to you.
 
 
Quantum
14:54 / 17.04.07


A pretty illustration of QT I stumbled across from http://www.massagemag.com/Magazine/2003/issue105/toc.php
 
 
Closed for Business Time
10:13 / 18.04.07
Neat, but how do you get your hand inside that electrikkk bubble thingie? And does it come off? And... where do I get one?
 
 
Quantum
10:47 / 18.04.07
You get it at the Marmot level of Matrix Crystal Indian Native American Wolf Cat Angel Spirit healing. I cannot divulge more.
 
 
Unconditional Love
15:07 / 18.04.07
Touch me! touch me! i want to feel your body, your heart beat next to mine. All cats are demonic angels in new age hell. yes.
 
 
Mako is a hungry fish
14:28 / 19.04.07
So is this thread writing off Quantum Touch (given how it presents itself, it probably deserves it) or the concept of energetic healing such as Reiki, Hands of Light, etc?
 
 
Sunfell
13:55 / 20.04.07
Hey, wait a minute! I've encountered something very much like the Matrix Crystal Indian Native American Wolf Cat Angel Spirit healing program out here in Flyover Country.

It's the Merlyn Glastonbury Magique Froggie Twanger Atmospheric Aether Enhancing program, and you can advance from Fujita level F-0 clear to F-5 in a single weekend! Amaze your friends!

For $19.95, you get a Power-Enhancing battery with Detailed Instructions on how to use it to amplify your own Aether and lower your electric bill, too.

But wait, there's more! With your Power Enhancer, you get a Magikque Faraday Flashlight to take into the shelter with you, and a Special Merlyn Brand NOAA Weather Radio that tells you if your Ancient (and secret) English Airs and Dances have worked. And finally, you get a handy-dandy storm-spotter's guide so you can track all the cool cloud-wrangling you've done.

You can become as powerful as Merlyn himself in a single weekend! Cool British accent training is extra.
 
  
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