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The Dread Poet Millay

 
 
HCE
23:11 / 15.09.06
I won't lie to you -- I have to write a paper for school and am hoping a conversation here will get me thinking.

So, what do you think of sonnets generally and Millay specifically? Never heard of her? Here is her work and a little biographical information.

So far I am finding that I am bored witless. I don't like sonnets because I find the having the structure of the poem on the outside, like an exoskeleton, rather distracting. Also, the emotions expressed seem to me to be better suited to long sighs than to poetry. Furthermore, I do not like poetry that rhymes.

However, I am aware that a lot of my objections are rather silly, like disliking musicals because 'in real life nobody just gets up and starts dancing and knows all the steps.'

I would particularly like to hear from those of you who love or at least appreciate sonnets and/or Millay. I find Shakespeare more tolerable so surely there is hope for me. Open my eyes! Educate and persuade me!
 
 
Ex
07:52 / 16.09.06
I love (some of) Millay. I don't usually do poetry criticism, though, so I don't know how usefully I can big her up.

I sometimes find sonnets a bit simplistic - I tend to prefer the ones that finish the last three lines rhyming ABCABC rather than with a rhyming couplet. It feels less trite somehow to tie the final six lines together in a coherent thought rather than just have a neat reversal in the last two.

Having the rythm and rhyme schemes obvious from the outset can lead to some really nice twists and enjambment. It's a bit like watching someone wriggle out of a straightjacket - you may be thinking, why did they choose to lock themselves in it in the first place? But you can also admire the skill.

Sonnets which have some kind of driving force to negotiate, rather than just observe or record or mope, might appeal to you more. This one by Drayton - 'Since there's no help, come let us kiss and part' - I like (although I can't find an online version which both has all the words right and is punctuated the way I like). He uses each chunk for something different, a new argument or an extended metaphor. The structure feels more useful or the changes of pace. I forgive him the final couplet's handbreak turn. John Donnes are good for that - he uses the shape of them to set out his argument. 'Batter my heart three person'd God' is punchy, and really dense, and has insanely mixed metaphors.

Specific Millays - the first one below is indeed a bit of a sigh. But it has moments of exuberance about sex which are fantastic.


What lips my lips have kissed, and where, and why,
I have forgotten, and what arms have lain
Under my head till morning; but the rain
Is full of ghosts to-night, that tap and sigh
Upon the glass and listen for reply;
And in my heart there stirs a quiet pain,
For unremembered lads that not again
Will turn to me at midnight with a cry.

Thus in the winter stands the lonely tree,
Nor knows what birds have vanished one by one,
Yet knows its boughs more silent than before:
I cannot say what loves have come and gone;
I only know that summer sang in me
A little while, that in me sings no more.


This is just two long sentences draped over the sonnet structure like long coats left on a sofa. The first sentence sentence that concludes 'For unremembered lads that not again/ Will turn to me at midnight with a cry'; the end three lines may be a bit clumsy, but also brilliant ('This really isn't a love poem, it's a poem about missing having some young chaps around and I can't even remember their names, because it's about me and the loss of a particular sense of myself, not about the intrinsic value of a particular chap').

Also, she splits it so that even though she's talking about the past, and it's a negative, she starts the line with 'Will' - is that so that even if it's about loss and bareness and misery you get the whole vision in that line of a cavalcade of midnight chaps? Also, 'not again/Will' feels like an expansion of 'unremembered' - she could have gone for 'forgotten' and 'won't' but it's as though she's bringing home the impossibility or the sense of being haunted by writing out the whole NOT+THE THING.

The line about the tree lets it down, though, for me. Not keen.

Anyway, will think more, but leave this one of hers, which is a bit more tart than most and may provide a squeeze of lemon juice to all the mournful extended sentences.


Oh, oh, you will be sorry for that word!
Give back my book and take my kiss instead.
Was it my enemy or my friend I heard?–
"What a big book for such a little head!"
Come, I will show you now my newest hat,
And you may watch me purse my mouth and prink.
Oh, I shall love you still and all of that.
I never again shall tell you what I think.

I shall be sweet and crafty, soft and sly;
You will not catch me reading any more;
I shall be called a wife to pattern by;
And some day when you knock and push the door,
Some sane day, not too bright and not too stormy,
I shall be gone, and you may whistle for me.
 
 
alas
17:41 / 16.09.06
this is not a sonnet, but it is by Millay, and I like it:

SPRING

by: Edna St. Vincent Millay (1892-1950)

To what purpose, April, do you return again?
Beauty is not enough.
You can no longer quiet me with the redness
Of little leaves opening stickily.
I know what I know.
The sun is hot on my neck as I observe
The spikes of the crocus.
The smell of the earth is good.
It is apparent that there is no death.
But what does that signify?
Not only under ground are the brains of men
Eaten by maggots.
Life in itself
Is nothing,
An empty cup, a flight of uncarpeted stairs.
It is not enough that yearly, down this hill,
April
Comes like an idiot, babbling and strewing flowers.


I'm not sure, unfortunately, that I have much to say beyond liking its flat rejection of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in favor of a kind of cigarette gloom.
 
 
HCE
20:40 / 16.09.06
Perhaps I have misjudged this poet. There is more stuff in these poems, and more interesting stuff, than I realized at first glance.

the rain
Is full of ghosts to-night,


could be lifted straight from a Leonard Cohen poem, I think. Very evocative. And I definitely dismissed this particular poem too soon, before realizing what the cry-accompanied midnight turnings were about.

Thanks for pointing that out. An excellent starting point for further thought.
 
 
*
19:22 / 17.09.06
I was looking for "Renascence," which I remembered as a poem I really loved when I was a wee sprat— but apparently that was when I was a wee sprat. Have this one instead, which is in fact a sonnet:

23. Bluebeard

Sonnet VI


THIS door you might not open, and you did;
So enter now, and see for what slight thing
You are betrayed…. Here is no treasure hid,
No cauldron, no clear crystal mirroring
The sought-for truth, no heads of women slain 5
For greed like yours, no writhings of distress,
But only what you see…. Look yet again—
An empty room, cobwebbed and comfortless.
Yet this alone out of my life I kept
Unto myself, lest any know me quite; 10
And you did so profane me when you crept
Unto the threshold of this room to-night
That I must never more behold your face.
This now is yours. I seek another place.
 
  
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