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The end of the Barbe-affair, or simply a phase?

 
 
matthew.
23:40 / 04.09.06
A couple of points at the outset of this thread: Do not fight, bicker, or squabble in this thread. Please. This is going to be a thread where we remind ourselves why we come to Barbelith, because I'm sure it's not because we like to debate over Poster X's remark to Poster Y.


I haven't really posted in a long time. About four months since I've really made any solid contribution to the board. It's been because of my two full time jobs and a lack of energy to actually engage with any topics more meatier than what book I'm currently ignoring. But I read sometimes while I eat my cereal in the morning and... I'm falling out of love with Barbelith.

There's been a couple things happening in the past four months that has just turned me off. The constant squabbling. The constant harrassment from racist, ignorant idiots. And stemming from that, the bickering over what to do with these assholes.

Pages and pages and pages and pages of who said what and who said why and what was implied and what was disregarded. Tenured posters saying ignorant and meanspirited things. Newbie posters saying ignorant and petty things. And the neverending debating of what to do when said situation arises.

Barbelith seems like a chore right now, and I haven't got the energy to bother with the hard work of fighting. I've purposefully stayed away from meaty threads in HeadShop and Switchboard because I haven't got any game right now. I've stayed to Conversation and to the culture stuff in Books, Film, and Music. But when the arguments muss up every thread and we're alluding to shit said earlier, I find I have to read up in Policy. Who said what?

I think I'm not the only one. Nina says something similar but different here. Barbelith is exhausting people, I presume. It must be. Especially the souls who fight day in day out in Policy. So, Haus, Flyboy, toksik, paranoidwriter, Dead Megatron, Xoc, Alex's (Relative), Ganesh, Shrug, Seth, Stoatie, all of you, come on in and relax.

In order to keep my love affair with Barbelith going, and not let it die like a withering rose, I'm taking a long break from the Policy forum.

The reason being two-fold: Policy threads depress me and make me want to go to Defamer and think about something else. And secondly, I'm not really missing anything. We've said it all before.

The other thing I plan to do to stay in the loving arms of the 'lith is this thread. So please, post something, a memory, an anecdote or another great post. We're all friends. Let's remind ourselves of that.

I don't want to leave Barbelith. I love all of you. Just help me realize why I came here in the first place, because right now, Barbelith is not a fun space.
 
 
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23:47 / 04.09.06
There's no time for us
There's no place for us
What is this thing that fills our dreams yet slips away
From us

Who wants to live forever?
Who wants to live forever?

There's no chance for us
It's all decided for us
This world has only one sweet moment set aside for us

Who wants to live forever?
Who wants to live forever?

Who dares to love forever
When love must die?

But touch my tears with your lips
Touch my world with your fingertips
And we can have forever
And we can love forever
Forever is our today
Who wants to live forever?
Who wants to live forever?
Forever is our today

Who waits forever anyway?
 
 
Dead Megatron
23:51 / 04.09.06
entity, your posts are TEH POSTS!!!!1!

it's a reason right there to be here
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
00:06 / 05.09.06
*hangs head shamefully and prepares for the worst*

Some time later...

News Reporter: The garage is watered from the sprinklers. It also left a man's decapitated body lying on the floor next to his own severed head. The head, which of this time, has no name.

Kurgan: I know his name.

*Kurgan Inserts cassette tape into car stereo*

Stereo: "Always look on the bright side of life..."



(And I've got to stop using smilies, as well.)
 
 
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03:29 / 05.09.06
I'm so sorry, matt. But I hope it brought a smile.

So, look. Despite all this talk of how Barbelith Is Not a Safe Space I can still make myself vulnerable here. It might not be a safe space for me as someone who was quite excited about seeing MirrorMask and uncritically loves Dave McKean's "art," but it feels like a safe-enough space for me as a trans person to say how angry I am about certain ways in which non-trans people talk about trans issues. And also, when I learn of something that upsets me, often the B'Lith is the first online place I come to vent about it if for some reason I can't do so in real life. This happened tonight.

Here I've gotten valuable advice about dealing with online situations that were totally outside my previous experience. This is not a safe space for me altogether because I don't grow in safety, people don't grow in safety, and people... well, people are just not safe to be around. People have off days, and people persistently hate each other. People are subject to temporarily mangled language centers or Mercury retrogrades under the influence of which they terribly misunderstand one another. People develop rational and irrational dislikes, and rational as well as irrational likes. People shoot each other, though thankfully not here. If I wanted a safe space I'd have to lock myself in a padded room with a lifetime supply of anti-thinking drugs. I am so fucking glad my locked and padded room will not be Barbelith.

For that matter, the door isn't locked. Leave for awhile. I've gone for months on end, and it did me good. I was better when I came back. Barbelith was better when I came back. My short vacation just now did me good.

When you come back, though: Go back through and read the thread that happened right after the London tube bombings. Read people's outpourings of support about anything and everything. Find where DM reported that he was caught in the middle of an uprising in Brazil and how many people, regardless of their feelings about his posting qualities or personal hygiene or whatever, expressed their concern and wished him safe. Find your old favorite threads and link them here, so when you feel like this again (and you will) you can remember them more quickly.

So, Barbelith is not perfect. It's really not even all that. I can live without it. I'm a hell of a lot more productive without it, that's for sure. As online message boards go, though, hot damn it's pretty fucking sweet.
 
 
Janean Patience
07:05 / 05.09.06
People are subject to temporarily mangled language centers or Mercury retrogrades

And Freddie Mercury retrogrades.
 
 
Sax
07:39 / 05.09.06
Do what I do at times like this. Fuck off for a bit.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
21:15 / 07.09.06
Good plan. I shall fuck off for a bit because I cannot be arsed with it all.
 
 
Ganesh
21:19 / 07.09.06
Moi aussi.
 
 
Shrug
21:35 / 07.09.06
I can appreciate how draining everything is on the board at the minute (for everyone really) so have a happy break, Xoc, Ganesh, (anyone else that may feel like fucking off for a bit).

*waves*
 
 
Francine I
21:36 / 07.09.06
The haunting vision of a young Christopher Lambert seared in my head, tearing without compassion or respite at my love for Freddie M. It's unfair.
 
 
Cloned Christ on a HoverDonkey
21:50 / 07.09.06
Haha!

I have spied my chance!

I will wait until all the Barbelith mainstays fuck off for a bit, allowing my evil plan to kick into action.

By ramping up my reasoning abilities, language skills and posting frequency while the local residents are away I will assume ownership of the board, thus becoming the new Haus.

Lick the leather sandals of The Clone, unworthy whelps!
 
 
Mistoffelees
21:53 / 07.09.06
Lick the leather sandals of The Clone, unworthy whelps!

Beware! Christmas-Wauzi is watching you.
 
 
Cloned Christ on a HoverDonkey
22:24 / 07.09.06
Under his unhesitating glare I become flaccid and begin to reconsider my plans...
 
 
Princess
22:26 / 07.09.06
flacid-
*sniggers*
 
 
ibis the being
23:48 / 07.09.06
I mainly fuck off all the time and then come back for a posting jag or two. I'm the anti-FuckYouGuysI'mOuttaHere of Barbelith.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
01:00 / 08.09.06
Right now, I feel like I've literally just woken up, looked in a mirror, and shamefully realised I'm nothing more or less than a cheep and guilty Markoff Chaney clone. And I didn't fully realise it earlier.

But (at risk of making the situation more RAW), I'm taking comfort from a sexy Russian and his chemically fluid theories: Prigogine.

Indeed, I think I might have had or still be having a breakdown and/or a breakthrough. I dunno yet. But for now, I will rest and pray for a higher cohesion.

Hang on.. Is that an ambulance outside?...

Shit.

Erm...I'll back, hopefully.... Er... But for now...
 
  
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