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grant
16:33 / 24.08.06
I have no idea what to make of this.

It's a media circus with some unsavory undertones of virginity-for-auction. I can't figure out if it's an instance of a person detourning and recapturing the power of the media or being utterly crushed by it.

I mean, on some level, this feels far more voyeuristic than porn, to me. Why?
 
 
Ticker
16:43 / 24.08.06
Ugh.....Ugh.....Ugh....

okay if a woman goes to a women's mag and says 'help me find more men' well icky but low level icky.

...if a woman goes to a women's mag and says 'help me get laid' well icky but medium level icky.

...if a woman goes to a women's mag and says 'help me get laid for the first time' well icky but high level icky.

why? Well I suppose it has to do with the value of sex, and first time sex and my New England prudery kicking in about it being conducted as entertainement glossed with hypocrasy. These people detest porn, but this is okay?

Give me the wholesome days of the Wickerman when the village virgins were brought to the sanctified hump surrogate while the parents drank down stairs with happy smiles. Sheesh.
 
 
Char Aina
17:00 / 24.08.06
has she said she will defintely take one of the suitors found through the mag?
if not, i reckon it could be a scheme to generate publicity for her career, stroke her ego and maybe find herself a man in the process.

she's a comic, and if she's any good i'm sure she could get enough material out of this to wardrobe an epic.

i do worry at the intelligence of her strategy, but i think i can imagine her motives.

i would have loved to have had thousands of potential partners all competeing to join me for my first time.
you could line them up and make them say "give me the fucking keys, cocksucker!" and everything.


still, i wonder how satisfying the experience will be for her, and if she has a set of interrogation techniques good enough to get to the best of the applicants.
it would suck to find yourself less happy after something as last-ditch as this, and one certainly wouldnt want to be known forever as the dude who fucked some dude only to later find out ze was a serial killer.

i hope it all goes well for her, and that she hasnt signed anything binding.

but then she couldnt have, could she?
 
 
Ticker
17:04 / 24.08.06
the article mentions a contract of some sort. bleargh.
 
 
grant
17:09 / 24.08.06
These people detest porn, but this is okay?

Actually, Jane is pretty porn friendly, and even vaguely soft-core-ish itself. They have a recurring "blind date" feature, and had a recent couple meet at a nudist colony/spa. Wacky photos.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
17:15 / 24.08.06
My first reaction was I don't believe she's a virgin. I envisage a conversation that went like this:

Sarah: how can I get more media exposure and get a bigger female audience?
Sarah's PR company/manager: I know, let's get my friend ***** to get you dates in her conde nast publication.
Sarah: that's not funny or interesting.
SPRC/M: we'll say your a virgin who needs to get laid
Sarah: hahaha. I found that funny, maybe other people will too.
SPRC/M: well Sex and the City sold well and that was all about dating and everyone liked Charlotte who was all about no sex before marriage when she was with that guy who was in Twin Peaks
Sarah: okay I'll do it.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
17:18 / 24.08.06
My job is turning me into a media cynic.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
17:20 / 24.08.06
The contract's just to the effect that she actually *is* a virgin though, I think.

The 'thoroughly vetted' suitor who mentions the 'deaf girl' who 'yelped and moaned' during his 'first time' gets my vote anyway. He seems like the perfect gentleman.

I suspect that this young lady's not going to meet her Prince Charming any time soon, and that she will write an article about her experiences entitled 'OMFG GUYS IN NEW YORK SUCK!11!23!' or related, go on to appear on a series of chat shows and then score a lucrative book deal with Harper Collins. And God will be in his heaven, and everything right with the world.
 
 
Mistoffelees
17:29 / 24.08.06
Here's the deal: JANE's readers are going to set me up with lots of guys.

Jane´s can do that, sure. Most readers of Jane´s are guys. But as it´s the world´s most famous weaponry magazine, she should try another magazine, I presume.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
17:35 / 24.08.06
That said, are there any Stateside 'Lithers out there who think they might be 'a fit' for a 'quirky gal with a great sense of humour, who loves the Red Sox'?

Is Dangerfield about these days?
 
 
Hydra vs Leviathan
18:06 / 24.08.06
Hmm. Makes we wonder whether the reaction would be different if it was a man using such a tactic to try to lose his virginity...

The prevalent stereotype seems to be that female virgin = someone "innocent", "precious", in need of "protection" from "exploitation", almost as if she was something like an ancient building or an endangered species of butterfly, whereas male virgin = "sweet" in a slightly pitiable way before a certain age, but simply pitiable as a "sad" "loser" after that age, the assumption seeming to be that if a grown woman is still a virgin, she is to be respected for not "giving in" to male pressure (thus assuming that women don't really want sex, but are pressurised into it by men), whereas if a grown man is still a virgin, he is to be disrespected because there must be "something wrong with him" that means he "can't get" sex (assuming men always want sex, and "ought" to be able to persuade women to "give it to them")...

why can't the possibility be admitted that a female virgin might be just as "desperate" to "get laid" as the stereotypical male virgin, and not be "damaged" at all by a first sexual experience consisting of unromantic, no-strings-attached, purely physical sex, or that a male virgin might actually want to "keep" his virginity [the idea of "a virginity" as something like a possession is another weird one imo], or be frightened/disgusted by the idea of sex just as much as the stereotypical female virgin?

This is of course also extremely heterocentric, to the extent that it's almost inconceivable to work out how a gay male or gay female virgin wanting to lose their virginity would be percieved (and indeed, in the latter case, if it would be considered possible for her to "lose her virginity" at all... reminded of Queen Victoria here...)

personally, i think the entire concept of "virginity" is probably a very problematic one, being based around the baseless conceit that what has been referred to on other threads here as "hide-the-penis-in-the-lady" is the only "real" or meaningful form of sex... tho perhaps that's a topic for a broader-in-scope/more theoretical thread...

It is of course also very possible that Tryphena's speculation is true, and this isn't a "real story" at all (tho the discussion points are still valid, i think)...

(apologies for the wanton overuse of scare quotes in this post...)
 
 
Alex's Grandma
18:37 / 24.08.06
Makes we wonder whether the reaction would be different if it was a man using such a tactic to try to lose his virginity...

Yeah, but the loss of Sarah's virginity seems at best a secondary goal here. All she's agreed to do is go out on a series of (at least so far) heavily-supervised 'dates' with some 'guys'; she's under no obligation to sleep with any of them (and probably won't, IMVHO - it's a much better story if she can't find anyone) and sex or otherwise is in any case a bit beside the main point of the exercise, which is to publicise both Jane magazine and Sarah's career as a comedian.

Accordingly, it seems to be going pretty well so far. Certainly, I'd never heard of either until this afternoon.
 
 
Olulabelle
18:40 / 24.08.06
I have a scary recollection about a couple of teenage girls who sold their virginity online a while ago. Does anyone else remember that?
 
 
Olulabelle
18:42 / 24.08.06
This is not what I remember but I just found it on google. The teens I remember just wanted the cash I think, I mean they didn't have a gameplan like the girl in the link.
 
 
sleazenation
18:54 / 24.08.06
No, Lula - from my recall the girl who attempted to auction off her virginity a few years back was doing it to raise money for university...
 
 
Triplets
19:10 / 24.08.06
Thing is tho, if she's a proper virgin she's not gonna have much experience. Bit of a shit lay that. Not even getting into the horrific awkwardness of "hi, i deflowered you with my mastercard". Rhythmic swiping action.

I wouldn't put money down, put it that way.
 
 
Ticker
19:18 / 24.08.06
I pay to deflower young virgin men all the time*.







*By which I mean tickling my spouse as he claims I'm molesting his innocent self and then being forced to endure reciprocal tickling.

We're sick, sick people.
 
 
stabbystabby
20:25 / 24.08.06
the guy with the deaf girl is pretty gross, but what about this guy:

What's the craziest thing that's happened to you?
Date rapist had same name as me.
 
 
Dead Megatron
21:55 / 24.08.06
Gosh, I don't remember seeing a virgin over 16 since I was, well, 16...
 
 
Olulabelle
21:57 / 24.08.06
Yes, Sleaze, the girl in the link did exactly that. But I am sure there were two other teenage girls. We talked about on Barbelith I am sure.
 
 
lekvar
22:07 / 24.08.06
See, Natty, I had a completely different reaction. My first thought wasn't that this woman was some delicate wilting flower that needed to be protected, no, my thought was that there's a discrepancy in that she's stayed a virgin for thirty years, which must have taken some small amount of thought and effort on her part, but would rather make her first time a media circus. A change of heart is understandable but a 180 degree turn like this strikes me as peculiar. I find the marketing* of her sexuality to be as weird as a guy doing the same thing.

*note: it's the marketing I find distasteful, not the sexuality itself.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
22:08 / 24.08.06
almost as if she was something like an ancient building or an endangered species of butterfly

Both of which, oddly enough, I had sex with as the basis for a series of articles...
 
 
ibis the being
22:39 / 24.08.06
Ecchhh, I detest Jane magazine. It's all about co-opting what they perceive as alternative or hipster culture and just superimposing it over the same exact crappy aesthetics and anti-feminist messages as Cosmo. All of their attempts to embody the spirit of the sexually liberated, independent woman just reek of "I'm doing this to a guy" hypocrisy.

Case in point, dear Sarah's blog revealed that this stunt is not actually, really, like literally about having sex - it's just a cool way to meet a Great Guy!

Hi guys! I just wanted to clear up a few things. I am not saying that I am determined to sleep with a guy by midnight on my 30th. Not at all! But I'd be lying if I said there isn't a little bit of a fairy tale hope here--that I'll meet a great guy in a most unexpected way. And I get that most of these guys won't be the one or even the one for right now but BUT what if, a really sweet guy who I would never meet randomly in a bar is told by a friend that we might be a match and he, in turn, does something he would never do and submits himself to go on a date with a stranger--possibly across the country--just on the chance it might be worthwhile. It's a fun story if nothing else and that right there is worth all the 'what ifs,' 'probably nots,' and 'are you crazys.'

Like, gag me.
 
 
ibis the being
22:42 / 24.08.06
Woops, get a guy. I'm doing this to get a guy.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
23:21 / 24.08.06
Looking at the blog, it seems as if the major life-issue Sarah needs to be addressing as she approaches the big 'Three-Oh' has got less to do with matters of the heart, or related, than it does with her career choice - There weren't too many jokes in there, were there?
 
  
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