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Well, thank you for the invitation Princess Swashbuckling, because I do think it's very positive when people on here accept that they might have been confusing or confused. In turn, I've quite often felt confused or challenged by definitions of maleness and femaleness that I've encountered on Barbelith, but overall I think those challenges have opened my mind to more complete understanding, or at least interesting possibilities.
Which is partly to say that I think other people here are better equipped to "unpack" your post than I am. Also, I'm aware that this is threadrot, sorry.
Basically a female dressed as a bussiness-man can be a "man", but she cannot be a male. "Male" is yes\no scientific thing. "Man" is more to do with social identity and gender constructs.
I'm clear whether you mean "man" in quotation marks (you don't put male in quotation marks), suggesting that a woman dressed as a businessman is a sort of man, a masquerade man (a "man").
(I would also say there's a little ambiguity here because really, if a woman dresses "like a businessman", quite often she would look like a woman: that is, a business suit often isn't any kind of drag of cross-dressing, for a woman.)
Anyway, my main point would be that I understood "masculine", not "man", to more usually indicate a gender construct as opposed to a biological fact.
However, I believe that some people on this forum espouse the idea that someone can identify as male ~ can effectively be male ~ despite having the biological characteristics of a woman: that is, that biology does not actually determine whether you are male or female.
That's an idea that was quite challenging for me when I first encountered it, but I think it's an interesting one.
It was basically a ploy to get pictures of hot drag kings.
I don't know if this is tongue-in-cheek, but I'm confused in that I thought you were asking for pictures of men (people who were born men, who are biologically male) kissing, but now it seems you were asking for pictures of attractive women in male drag, kissing each other. But that could just be that I misunderstood the original request. |
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