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Happy Dave Has Left
12:25 / 20.08.06
Hello everyone. How's your Sunday coming on?
 
 
miss wonderstarr
12:41 / 20.08.06
Affirmative, Dave, I read you.

I am writing about fan pilgrimages to Vancouver and listening to "Performance", a new band who sound a bit like Visage or the Human League. Electronic cityscapes and slightly flat harmonies.

I didn't have any coffee for the first two hours of my Sunday, which is really unusual for me.

Last night I watched a Fritz Lang film starring Edward G. Robinson, until 2am.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
12:52 / 20.08.06
I went round the corner for traditional Sunday lunch in the pub and, because of the cricket match with Pakistan, there was a barbecue on. Disappointing. I wanted beef and Yorkshire pud. Not sardines and kebabs. Big jug of Pimms cheered me up though.

However, am now home again and we have gone into full John and Yoko mode, lounging on the big bed with laptops balanced on our chests and post prandial snooze not far off.

Sunday is delicious. I like mine served with lashings of indolence and swimming in custard.
 
 
Happy Dave Has Left
12:58 / 20.08.06
Oh yes, Sundays are brill. I'm fiddling around with various blogs and websites I run for other people, while my flatmate gets together the ingredients for a Sunday Roast. Also, my washing machine is busted, so I'm having pleasantly nostalgic trips to the launderette round the corner to put more twenty pences in the dryer. It reminds me of being a student.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
12:59 / 20.08.06
I'm participating in the pathetic Digital Spy Big Brother autopsy. But this evening I may go to see A Scanner Darkly.
 
 
Happy Dave Has Left
13:04 / 20.08.06
Oooh, Man, I want to see it. I caught the first 24 minutes of it on IGN Filmforce (warning, horrid flash interface), and it looks intriguing. I'm also a big PK Dick fan.

Hawesome.
 
 
Happy Dave Has Left
13:13 / 20.08.06
Speaking of movies, anyone seen Snakes on A Plane yet?
 
 
miss wonderstarr
13:14 / 20.08.06
I'm currently living with my cat. Conversation is... limited. 3pm feels just like 10am. Saturday feels like Sunday. I type more than I talk. The humans I interact with are on distant keyboards or on the other side of a supermarket till. I eat and drink for something to do, then sprint or crunch the calories off. I think my cleaning is edging towards the obsessive this weekend (kitchen spotless after each croissant). During commercial breaks on Friday and Saturday evenings, I run back to the computer and rattle down commentaries across three websites: appointment TV = community.


I think I'm heading the right way now. One evening next week, at this rate, I will sit up into the night sewing a uniform. (THINKS: "These razor blades sewn into my leather gloves will make great claws, and my belt can be adapted to hold acids and smoke pellets! That chemistry set came in handy.") In the morning, in a splash page, I will show my new identity, the White Cat.
 
 
Happy Dave Has Left
13:19 / 20.08.06
Well, Wonderstarr, when that typing produces awesomeness like your recent Reacher/Gaiman pastiche double-hitter, I can't consider it a bad thing.

I've recently found myself on the 'Lith a heckuva lot more than I used to be. I first stumbled across the place about two and half years ago, got stuck in some kind of admissions loop for a year, posted with gusto when I first came on board, and, following my first Barbe-meet, now find myself very engaged with the place. I've been digging around in some really old posts, and trying my best to do more than just wander in and out of the Conversation, and I'm finding it really rather interesting.

Yay 'Lith!
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
13:23 / 20.08.06
You go kick ass, White Cat! I may follow your lead soon myself, as it goes.

Stoat, Ectatic Dave, did either of you start/read that biography of PK Dick yet?

Me? I'm still struggling with my body-clock, but it's Sunday so it doesn't really matter. I've had a few hours kip and written maybe a thousand words or more since four o'clock yesterday (all of which might be shit). I have"invented" a new TV game though, which could be fun, and which I'm thinking of testing here as soon as I've ironed out the creases / rules, and checked that it isn't in fact as old and boring as the word.

No ciggies, no dough; but so far, I seem to have faith in something this Sunday. Probably this place. Which is nice.
 
 
Happy Dave Has Left
13:27 / 20.08.06
What are you writing PW? I'm currently doing website rewrites for ORG (see the badge on the homepage) and trying not to think about all the copyediting I need to do on my novel (which is downstairs on the deliberatly-not-connected-to-the-web desktop computer) or the fact that all the agents I've queried recently have told me that I need to get short-story publishing credits before looking for an SF/F agent (dang science fiction and it's thriving short fiction scene).

Sorry, I seem to be Creation-ising many a thread these days.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
13:27 / 20.08.06
Thanks Dave ~ one of the good things about this sort of place is the way you can "publish" stuff immediately and get feedback on it within thirty seconds.

I think I should go to a London meet sometime, actually. Though it does radically change the dynamic of a board, once you've met people: it's not often I post somewhere when I haven't met any of the players.

What do you think ~ and anyone else who has been to Barbemeets. Would you recommend it? What does it change?
 
 
miss wonderstarr
13:28 / 20.08.06
I am writing crime fiction by the way. In the evenings.
 
 
Happy Dave Has Left
13:35 / 20.08.06
Well, this is kind of embarrassing to admit, but as I was a year and a half lurker on the board before I got my posting wings, I was a bit, er, starstruck when I turned up to a meet last month and actually met people, i.e. Whisky P, Stoat, Flyboy, Jub etc. Mostly because they've made me snort milk out of my nose so many times on so many threads, and it was super teh awesome to meet them in the flesh. That said, I now feel a lot more comfortable putting in my two-pennorth, on the more serious forums and threads, because I feel more engaged with the people and the place. I even feel it's easier to interact with people I haven't met, and possibly never will, because having met some 'Lithers for real I just feel I have a better handle on the place as a whole. And by that, I don't mean I know what 'type' of people are on Barbelith and are thus comfortable with engaging with the board, because one of the marvellous things I've found is that there is no single 'type' for me to get my head around. I guess I just realised that there was no unifying characteristic except a certain level of wit and a high degree of friendliness, and that made me feel very comfortable both being here, and posting more.

Phew.

Hope that makes sense.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:35 / 20.08.06
starr, I'd highly recommend it. Lots of nice people, good conversation, and alcoholic beverages. And I met Ecstatic Dave at one a few weeks back, which was cool.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
13:40 / 20.08.06
Maybe one or two of you could let me know in advance by PM if you are doing a London thing? It is no bother for me to make it into town, but (contrary to what my report above would suggest) I usually have to schedule things in advance.

I will try to get my White Cat costume sewn by then. In the comics, they always do it overnight with stuff they have in the house: "This old fancy dress outfit will come in handy! I'll just unpick the stitches, and Mary's sewing machine will do the rest!"
 
 
Happy Dave Has Left
13:42 / 20.08.06
Stuff is usually announced in the Gathering Starr, and if I see it, I usually whack it in the Barbelith Pager, but I most certainly will PM you - we must have a Reacher chat soon - One Shot is absolutely brilliant!
 
 
Mourne Kransky
13:44 / 20.08.06
Barbemeets are bad for your liver. Depending upon who shows up, they might imperil your mortal soul too.

Listening now, very contentedly, to Radio 4 serialisation of Butler's Erewhon (that I haven't ever read). What marvellous serendipity!
 
 
miss wonderstarr
13:45 / 20.08.06
downstairs on the deliberatly-not-connected-to-the-web desktop computer

This is a clever idea, and when I first got this computer but no internet, I was astonished to write a 2000-word article in maybe 2 hours ~ but now I find I go online a lot while writing fiction, for actual legitimate research rather than (just) time-wasting distraction. I suppose it does depend a lot on what you're writing.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
13:47 / 20.08.06
That is serendipity for me too, Xoc, as I was just writing about utopia an hour ago.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
13:47 / 20.08.06


What are you writing PW

A kind of modern conspiracy rant pamphlet; Borges meets Johnathan Swift meets George P.Landow meets a bit of RAW. It was a writing exercise that came from almost nowhere and which I suddenly seemed to "have to write". Not for money. All for pleasure, or distraction, or something like that. Hadn't written a proper fiction for a while, so it was fun.

... (dang science fiction and it's thriving short fiction scene) ...

Is it!? I am so out of touch with this sort of stuff, and sounds like I might have to steel myself for rejection soon. I'm scared of agents.

I am writing crime fiction by the way. In the evenings.

wonderstarr, if your crime fiction's like the stuff you've put on the Humpty thread and elsewhere lately, I'd love to read some of it, sometime. I haven't read much crime stuff though.
 
 
Happy Dave Has Left
13:49 / 20.08.06
Yep, definitely Starr, I write SF, so I've taken to making up something that sounds vaguely feasible, and making a note that I need to research it later. That way I can do all my research in one go rather than breaking the, ahem, 'flow'. I have zero impulse control when it comes to the web and can go online for 'ten minutes' that turns into a two hour clicktrance.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
13:52 / 20.08.06
Thanks, PW ~ I think my writing is a bit influenced by Reacher at the moment; it would be hard to avoid the influence, as I'm so immersed in those books. However, as this is London urban university crime, it's obviously quite different from Reacher's milieu (ie. no guns; amateur detection rather than ex-military cop).

I have considered putting some up on The Creation but as it's still in progress, I'm not sure whether I'm ready to have this work on the open platform.
 
 
Happy Dave Has Left
13:58 / 20.08.06
Is it!? I am so out of touch with this sort of stuff, and sounds like I might have to steel myself for rejection soon.

Certainly in the US, and there's a few UK magazines like Interzone that also deal in SF/F. Super competitive to get into, and I've yet to receive anything but form rejection letters from any of them. Problem is that I've been majorly focusing on the longer fiction, and nothing's really surfacing short fiction wise. And I've found sitting in front of a blinking cursor and willing short fiction ideas to come to me is a fruitless exercise.
 
 
Happy Dave Has Left
14:06 / 20.08.06
Hey, actually, was wondering about something - I was part of an abortive SF writing group that never really got off the ground, mainly due to lack of numbers, people never showing up, etc.

Anyone up for a bit of a BarbeWriteCamp sometime? Milton Rules writing workshop? With beer? And maybe pizza? Any genre?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:08 / 20.08.06
Yeah, that'd be a good idea.
 
 
Happy Dave Has Left
14:12 / 20.08.06
Sweet, I'll start a Gathering thread for it.

Or should it go in the Creation?

Gathering Thread, Creation mention linking to it.

Yay!
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
14:31 / 20.08.06
wonderstarr, I'm sure the stories will be well worth my wait and I'll be thrilled but a bit gutted when I read their last page, as one is with all good stories. But do start a thread when ya ready.

And thanks for the info, Ecstatic Dave. Similarly, I'll look out for your stuff and everyone else's as well. Nice threads, by the way.

I'm off for a nap and maybe to prod some fiction while I can. Sunday's easy.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
14:31 / 20.08.06
What are... Milton Rules? And maybe you should link from Conversation. I know I personally very rarely read Gathering or Creation.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
14:40 / 20.08.06
Milton Rules means he's promising you Paradise if you join him and do as he says, but once you've settled in and begun enjoying yourself, he'll boot you into the cold. I told you about the imperilling-your-mortal-soul aspect of barbemeets.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
14:42 / 20.08.06
I propose Pullman Rules then. I am actually going to switch screens and write fiction now, instead of just writing about it.
 
 
Happy Dave Has Left
14:44 / 20.08.06
What are... Milton Rules?

Damn, Milford - I'm an eejit - check it out here. It's a good system.

Also, check out Bruce Sterling's Workshop Lexicon, which is a good primer for some of the horrid jargon I'll be assaulting your ears with.
 
 
Happy Dave Has Left
15:13 / 20.08.06
BarbeWriteCamp - you're invited!
 
 
miss wonderstarr
15:41 / 20.08.06
451 words of fiction since my last post ~ who wants to touch me (except for 33).
 
 
Happy Dave Has Left
15:54 / 20.08.06
Well done Starr!
 
  

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