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Paperless Loo

 
 
Slate
22:17 / 17.08.06
The Paperless Loo

During my recent trips abroad I hadn't really prepared myself for the squat toilets of Turkey and the squat paperless toilet of India. After a while I did however get used to using my left hand when there was no paper within a hundred square kilometers. It took a couple of goes to get used to but in the end I couldn't help thinking how much paper must get flushed down the drain into the ecosystem. With the manufacturing process of the paper, the energy that goes into getting it into into your hand before you use it for it's intended purpose, and then the chemical breakdown of the paper and subsequent wastage, do you think paper in the loo might become a thing of the past in the pursuit of all things eco-friendly and planet hugging? Would you use this thing? I would give it a go for sure!
 
 
stabbystabby
23:23 / 17.08.06
i quite like the toilet-with-hose dealie you get in Thailand. Much better than rough public toilet loo paper....
 
 
All Acting Regiment
11:09 / 18.08.06
One thing that worries me: buttons. Buttons mean electricity, toilets mean water. Water and electricity don't play nice together. How's that problem avoided?
 
 
Foust is SO authentic
13:29 / 18.08.06
true story ahead

I'm in South Korea these days. After eating a meal in a fancy restaurant, I used the toilet. It was one of those, with a control panel. I had no idea what I was doing. I stood up, and attempt to flush, pressed a random button (All the instructions were in Korean).

A humming noise. A nozzle slowly appears. A stream of water bursts forth, with enough pressure to hit the stall wall and my jacket hanging there. By the time the water stopped, there was a big puddle on the ground and both myself and the jacket were soaked.

After that, everytime one of my (white) friends went into the bathroom, they were followed by an employee.

damn toilet
 
 
Ticker
17:12 / 18.08.06
Ok question here.

Stream of water in the toliet cleans your rump as it has cleaned other rumps. What is the disinfectent process in between rump cleanings to keep your rump removed from the bacteria provided by the washing of other rumps?

So if a person with hep C uses one of these things and hep C is now driving around the bowl what is the mechanism to prevent it from then being applied via the water jet to me?
 
 
Dead Megatron
18:58 / 18.08.06
I don't think they re-use the water...
 
 
Ticker
19:45 / 18.08.06
no but stuff is spraying around.

I went looking for info and found this site which made me laugh but nothing helpful:

PoopReport

I've used them when traveling and consider the cleanliness of the restroom before doing so. I can't imagine a public bidet being any less creepy than a public toilet.
 
 
Hydra vs Leviathan
13:08 / 20.08.06
There is no way in hell that i would ever wipe my arse with my hand...

(one thing i don't get about the Middle Eastern/South Asian custom of "one hand for arse wiping, one hand for eating" is, does that mean they never touch one hand with the other hand? That, to me at any rate, would seem almost impossible to avoid...)

However, in compost toilets (which are, IMO, the ideal eco-friendly toilet future), toilet paper is actually useful, as it (along with the sawdust that you sprinkle over afterwards to prevent persistent shitty smell) provides dry/carbon-heavy material to "balance out" the high water and nitrogen content of (most) human shit, thus contributing to optimum decomposition... so, IMO, particularly if it's recycled, toilet paper doesn't have to be an eco-bad-thing...

some compost toilet info here and here...

(while that first link suggests combining compost toilets with composting other (eg kitchen/garden) waste, the people i've met who have constructed them have recommended composting human waste separately, just mixing with paper/sawdust, and also having separate toilets for shit and urine, the latter being a good "activator" for composting of "dry" garden waste (straw, hedge clippings, etc). the ones which i have used (at the Hori-Zone eco-camp at last year's G8 protests) simply consisted of steps leading up to a toilet seat over a wheelie bin, with a bucket of sawdust beside it, and didn't smell noticeably at all (certainly nowhere near as bad as the chemical portaloos)...)
 
 
Slate
23:47 / 20.08.06
Hey Sparkle Motion, I visualised your night at the Restaurant, bloody hilarious! I wanted to hear what the Korean waiters were saying when you all left! BWAAHAHAHAHA!!!

Natty Ra, you would be suprised what a cornered man can do... It is true in India, the left hand for the loo and the right hand for the food. I have seen 2 fingernails of the left hand grown, usually the thumb and index finger, to remove fecal matter more effectively, to save water. I was a bit messy and just splashed water all over the place... I only had to do it 4 or 5 times and it was in an emergency(damn goat curries).

My apologies for where this thread has ended up, but do you know how long I have wanted to discuss this for... When I first did it I thought I was going to be emotionally scarred forever, but I did get used to it rather quickly.

The toilets where I was working were very bad and I did think about Hep A B & C when looking at what I had to do. It would be the direct reason why diseases such as Cholera spread so rapidly. I went through the 7 months without any major medical drama's. I did get the squits a few times for a couple of weeks, but I have heard many worse horror stories involving saline drips and hospitals. I was lucky I guess.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
13:47 / 22.08.06
I guess a backlog of, well, shit-covered paper in all the pipes might also make a good breeding ground for nasties. I dunno.
 
 
Ticker
15:16 / 22.08.06
the deep woodsey trail blazing folk I know use rocks.
Yes they find pieces of slate and scrap the poo off.
I'm told the rocks best suited for this sort of thing are highly valued.
 
  
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