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Extract from novel - comments on style tone whatever. am i still making sense?

 
 
astrojax69
06:18 / 10.08.06
just thought that a chunk from the middle of a novel is just what this forum needs...! well, it hapens to be just what i'm gone post, anyway...

this is a scene from the opening part of part three of a four or five part book - it is just before a funeral. won't tell any more than that - want to see if the piece is holding up even though now i know what's going on and who's who... do you?




Milestones. Markers in the path to indicate significance. Sometimes, the significance is arbitrary, like the distance covered or remaining, and is pre-ordained. Others signify divergences to new paths. Heathen happenings, actual events and artefacts pressing us into a direction, often one we hadn’t bargained on. And sometimes these two occur concurrently.

Why do we mark events with anniversaries? What should an imposed duration have to tell us that our more visceral responses lack? Is it the pattern against which we can all agree, a starting point for communication. This perhaps is the meme in action then, another infestation.

Birthdays and anniversaries, milestones to life’s duration, its carrying on, our enduring. But fluid organism that is the vitality of our uniqueness, each of us a thriving living thing, manifesting our existence at different paces, at different directions, galactic. When one passes a pre-set milestone with another, hand in hand, even brethren, they no two take it to be the same thing. From the outside, it seems everyone glides along in their life, sailing beside yours. Their dance through time to music unequal to yours. Yet from the inside, it is all so discordant. How are we to know where to go next? Is there a next note, another beat of time? What if it all went stagnant? Am I sinking?


“He told me once, that hitting forty was like a breath, pausing against a wall to consider how far it is, and pushing off again, out into open water. He was so assured.” Juliet sat inside an atrium café, froth and clatter tinkling from the high glass and metal casing. “It’s good to be out, Rocky. Thanks for coming down.” A waiter interrupted and placed coffees and bread on the table. Juliet smiled up at her, “Thanks.” Roxanne was already tearing open the paper tubes of sugar, pouring them onto the froth of her coffee.

“Oh, sweetie. But really, you’re dealing with this amazingly well. I hope there won’t be something later. You really ok? Call me and Ren any time, any time.” Stirring, twirling, dissolving. “Ok?”

“Sometimes I wonder, yeah, if I really am ok. Like when Stu told me that? I imagined me, vividly, turning forty and pushing off against the wall. And found it gave way.” Eyes noticed shimmer of metal table liquid swirl dissolve the world above it, stay focussed there. “Didn’t tell him; it was just inside my head, just there. I went straight through the wall, Rock, it swallowed me up. Just a wall, but between me and the sea. Frantic. And I have to find the hole that lets me back through. Just gotta find the right hole. Stu’s out there, swimming ahead of me and…” Choking a sob, napkin to face, Roxanne’s hands reach across the basket of bread, knocking a roll to the tablecloth. “I’m sorry, Rock.”

“Oh, don’t be, oh sweetie.” A waiter patient by and by, by the table, holding plates and generous silence. Roxanne’s glance, turns and heads back to the kitchen.

“You’ve got me teary too. Can’t be teary here, Loui’d kick us out. Then where’d we get a decent coffee? You’ve found the hole. Or all of us are back behind the wall with you. Stu’s just still out swimming ahead, ol’ Stu. Hey?” And as later later the pyramid of their embrace across the tablecloth begins to collapse, Roxanne catches the owner’s eye, Loui catches the waiter’s and the arrival of their food completes the manoeuvre. Napkin back on lap, eyes red above now a smile. “We’ll get through tomorrow, Ju. We all will, together.”

Tomorrow.
 
 
sibyline, beating Qalyn to a Q
06:29 / 10.08.06
the prose holds up quite well for me, even though i'm not the biggest fan of omniscience. i like the clipped prose a lot and the images, especially the swirling of the coffee. i also enjoyed the use of dialogue, the way things are said, interrupted than continued.

the opening was fine, though a tad too self-conscious for my taste, like it announces itself a bit too much. i like grounding things in events and actions, even if the end result is philosophical.
 
 
astrojax69
05:30 / 11.08.06
points all taken, sibyline- especially liked 'announcing itself'... well said.

in truth this follows two shortish (2-3 pages each) sections with much more internal pov taking in juliet's reaction to the news from police in the night, and the deceased being mourned in this segment. but i am still working on the pov for a lot of these chunks, am conscious of your comments, and will possibly vastly edit much of what i've written into something else, but am enjoying it so far...

cheers
 
 
sibyline, beating Qalyn to a Q
14:47 / 11.08.06
yeah, i reread and realized that i missed "am i sinking?" at the end of the section. i would think that unless juliet is an extremely abstract person, her internal thoughts wouldn't be so removed from the event... i've been rereading toni morrison's "jazz" recently and that's one thing i notice about the book, large chunks of which are told in internal monologue. we never lose the psychological thread even as the narrative veers at times towards the philosophical.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
10:12 / 16.08.06
Please don't think I'm being snarky, but are milestones actually "in the path"? Or are they by the side of the road? Because otherwise people would crash into them.

I'll come back later with more.
 
 
astrojax69
23:16 / 17.08.06
not all, legba! but they could be inlaid upon the path and still tell you what information they have. but good point - i like to get to those little aspects that frustrate a thorough reader like your good self - and hard to see when you write it...

"markers along the path..."?

anyway, the whole tranche might eventually go - editing can be cruel!
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
08:00 / 18.08.06
I'd probably lose the first three paragraphs pretty much in total, but that may bed why I never write anything I don't then delete.
 
 
Sax
11:46 / 18.08.06
I do get a nagging feeling as I'm reading that I wonder who's talking to me at the beginning, whose opinions and observations they are. If they are those of the omniscient narrator, who isn't actually a character in the piece, I'd be inclined to follow Haus's suggestion and either lose them, or work them into the narrative a bit more. Show me these things, don't tell me them.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
11:51 / 18.08.06
Yeah, those three paras are...floaty. Floaty is good in it's own place, but I wonder how much they give to the piece as a whole. One reads a story for a story, any...philosophy, I suppose you could call it, must be sublimated somehow...into the voice of a character, a definite voice as opposed to a floaty authorial voice...possibly. I'm not entirely sure what I mean.
 
  
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