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redtara
10:46 / 31.07.06
Our poor old magic section is looking rather sad and uninspiring. We have started stocking the latest everyday spells/candle magic/witches kitchen kind of stuff that publishers spew out to cash in on the Willow-Tara wannabe market (sorry Buffy reference).

If you could stock the shelves for me what gems, tomes, classics, primers etc. would you feel were compulsary for any self respecting magic shelf. You can be as broad or narrow as you like. If it's a good or useful book it gets a spot. Don't worry about who's deffinition of magic, aside to say that I shy away from Crowley for reasons of purely personal prejudice.

Appologies if there is an old thread that addresses this. Had a mooch, couldn't find it.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
11:13 / 31.07.06
Don't worry about who's deffinition of magic, aside to say that I shy away from Crowley for reasons of purely personal prejudice.

I've got to ask why?
 
 
redtara
11:22 / 31.07.06
Hmmm! Everything I know about him from a biographical point of view gives me the impression of a dark personality. I have met many people who I might consider teachers in my life and if I would not want to get drunk/fly a kite with you then you don't make the list.

Primarily 'cos my instincts scream 'Run away run away save yourself' they arn't always forthcoming when i ask them about their motives.

Like I said it's my prejudice. Do you have anything to say in his defense?
 
 
redtara
11:27 / 31.07.06
That's not to say that I wouldn't supply his work. Have many times, but even handling his books give me the screaming heebie-jeebies.

Am I an idiot?
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
12:09 / 31.07.06
Well I'd suggest letting they guy speak for himself by reading a few of his books without allowing the prejudices you're bringing to the table cloud your judgement. You seem to be swallowing wholesale and unquestioningly what I would call the "tabloid version" of Crowley: a lens on his contributions to occultism that he was certainly complicit in cultivating for whatever ill-judged reasons, but which does more to obfuscate the real essence of what he had to say. Have you read Crowley? Or are you basing your prejudice on hearsay?

I only say this because I was dipping into "Magick in Theory and Practice" by Mr C yesterday afternoon, for the first time in ages, and I never fail to be awed by the man's mind, the creativity at work, the staggering levels of insight embedded in the odd cluster of paragraphs. It blows me away, it really does. I'd challenge anyone to read 100 pages of a work like "The Book of Thoth" and not be impressed by the scholarship and creativity that seeps through every page. Crowley's body of work is absolutely stunning, but it really has to be divorced from the juvenile public persona that surrounds it, if you are to have any hope of grasping what he was actually on about.

I certainly don't see eye-to-eye with him on every point - at times I find myself getting annoyed at his short-sightedness in certain areas. At one point yesterday I threw the book across the length of my garden to the tune of: "This is all very well, but how is any of it going to help me pay the fucking gas bill!" Before sitting back down with it again, and being gob smacked for another hour by the density of meaning in every chapter.

The thing is: I don't have to agree with his every sentence in order to appreciate the man's talent and contributions to the field of magic, anymore than I have to get comfortable with the ugly misogyny of someone like William Burroughs in order to enjoy some of his fiction.

It difficult to really know whether Crowley would have been fun to get drunk and fly kites with, especially if you're basing your assumptions on second-hand knowledge, or on biographies written by people who never actually knew the man in their lifetime, or on reviews of those biographies, or worse - on the general impression of who the man was and what he was about that you may have soaked up from popular culture. He doesn't really come across as a "dark character" if you read his books, at least not to me. He comes across as playful and egotistical and sarcastic, sometimes irritating, but always insightful and fascinating in his exposition of the western mysteries.

You can't overlook him really, he was without a doubt the Picasso or the James Joyce, of occultism. Very much a product of the "modernist experiment", and his work is often as demanding of its reader as something like 'Finnegan's Wake'. What you see on the surface is not necessarily the whole picture and you cannot really interact with his books in the same way you might with a standard occult textbook. But if you put the effort into engaging with Crowley's work, and trying to fathom out what he was going on about, it can be really rewarding stuff and not half as "teh darqside" as you might at first assume.
 
 
razorsmile
12:18 / 31.07.06
well I'm no huge fan of crowley and I wouldn't call anyone I barely know an idiot, but sounds like a strange reaction to me...but as you say, personal prejudice, we all have them ;-)

bookswise, there's too many bad books around really...still, i'll list a few I've liked to find...

anything by william gray...some stuff from Du Quette (his new book on the goetia is good and I've had good reports from a couple of friends who've read it and found it clear and easy going)...phil hine's condensed and prime chaos, dave lee's chaotopia, julian vayne's 'now that's what I call chaos majik', Jan Fries' Visual Magick, Ramsey Dukes SSOTBME, some Austin Spare (there's an excellent and cheap collection called 'ethos' published by I-H-O Books)...alan moore's Promethea...Chumbley's Azoetia or Schulke's Viridarium, probably behind the counter ;-)...some Kenneth Grant and in general anything from Fulgur Press...

to touch the tip of the iceberg ...
 
 
Doc Checkmate
12:37 / 31.07.06
Joseph Campbell's "The Hero With a Thousand Faces." I know there are other shelves in a bookstore that would claim priority on this, but I don't think it would be an ideal occult section without it.

Stephen LaBerge's "Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming." Get in touch with a Realm of Weirdness now, in a concrete way that doesn't let you delude yourself into thinking you've succeeded. Probably good for someone new to magic, who might not get BAM POW results from subtler work and might either get dejected or talk himself into "feeling something" in a vague way. No "I felt a presence!... I think" nonsense here; just "I went lucid, flew around and had a great time/blew shit up and had a mad time/projected through a tattwa/went on a vision journey/learned something valuable about my mind/etc" or "I didn't." Get a newbie (like me) used to the taste of the real deal, keep him from tail-chasing wankery right from the start.
 
 
odd jest on horn
15:24 / 31.07.06
No matter how rehashed, repetitive and naive Robert Anton Wilson's books are, I wouldn't have an occult section without at least Prometheus Rising.
 
 
EvskiG
13:26 / 01.08.06
I love making lists like this.

Here's what (as of today) I'd see as essential to a good occult section of a good bookstore. I could list another 50 at the drop of a hat.

I've tried to limit myself to the Western traditions. If we added yoga, Buddhism, etc. that's another 50 right there.

* * * *

First, a bit of background on the Western Esoteric Tradition:

The Egyptian Book of the Dead
Hermetica, Walter Scott
John Dee’s Five Books of Mystery, John Dee
Three Books of Occult Philosophy, Henry Cornelius Agrippa
The Magus, Francis Barrett
The Goetia, S.L. MacGregor Mathers
The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage, S.L. MacGregor Mathers
Transcendental Magic, Eliphas Levi

Then the basics of Kabbalah, traditional and magical:

Kabbalah, Gershom Scholem
The Chicken Qabalah, Lon Milo DuQuette

A few surveys of the field:

The Golden Bough, J.G. Frazer
The Black Arts, Richard Cavendish
The Secret Teachings of All Ages, Manley P. Hall
The Women's Encyclopedia of Myths & Secrets, Barbara Walker

Crowley and his system:

Magick in Theory & Practice, Aleister Crowley
The Book of Thoth, Aleister Crowley
777, Aleister Crowley
The Equinox, Vol. I, Aleister Crowley et al.
The Magick of Aleister Crowley, Lon Milo DuQuette
The Mystical and Magical System of the A.'.A.'., James A. Eshelman

The Golden Dawn and its followers:

The Golden Dawn, Israel Regardie
The Art of True Healing, Israel Regardie
The Essential Golden Dawn, Chic and Tabitha Cicero
Self-Initiation Into the Golden Dawn Tradition, Chic and Tabitha Cicero
Modern Magick, Donald Michael Kraig
The Ritual Magic Workbook, Dolores Ashcroft-Nowicki
Lords of Light, W.E. Butler

A few alternative perspectives:

The Book of Pleasure, A.O. Spare
Isis Unveiled, H.P. Blavatsky
The Fourth Way, P.D. Ouspensky
Initiation into Hermetics, Franz Bardon

A bit of Wicca:

The Spiral Dance, Starhawk
Drawing Down the Moon, Margot Adler

A few books for the kids:

Grimoire for the Apprentice Wizard, Oberon Zell-Ravenheart
Companion for the Apprentice Wizard, Oberon Zell-Ravenheart
Teen Witch, Silver Ravenwolf

The best of the Falcon Press folks:

Prometheus Rising, Robert Anton Wilson
Undoing Yourself With Energized Meditation, Christopher Hyatt
Angel Tech, Antero Alli

A bit of Tarot:

The Complete Guide to the Tarot, Eden Gray
Understanding Aleister Crowley’s Thoth Tarot, Lon Milo DuQuette

Some Chaos Magic:

Liber Null & Psychonaut, Peter Carroll
Liber Kaos, Peter Carroll
Condensed Chaos, Phil Hine
Prime Chaos, Phil Hine

And a bit of more recent stuff:

Promethea, Alan Moore
21st Century Mage, Jason A. Newcomb
The New Hermetics, Jason A. Newcomb
Generation Hex, Various
 
 
redtara
17:09 / 01.08.06
Jeez louise that's ace. I'm gonna spend a happy hour or two tomorrow tracking down suppliers.

Many thanks.
 
 
Doc Checkmate
17:49 / 01.08.06
If you find a spare copy of the Eshelman for a reasonable price, please let me know. Goddamn thing is my white whale.
 
 
EvskiG
18:21 / 01.08.06
Most of the practical instructions from the Eshelman book (which in turn come from Crowley's books) can be found here, on the website for that branch of the A.'.A.'.
 
 
Olulabelle
18:35 / 01.08.06
I really thought we'd made a brilliant thread about books we would recommend a while ago, but I've got up to page 19 of the archives and I can't find it.

Did I make it up?
 
 
Olulabelle
18:52 / 01.08.06
But anyway. I've been thinking about which books you should stock, and looking at my books, and the ones people borrow off me all the time are as follows:

Incense Oils and Brews by Scott Cunningham
The Holistic Herbal by David Hoffman
Disinfo's Book of Lies
The Cosmic Serpent, Jeremy Narby
DMT the spirit molecule
Plants of the Gods
Prime Chaos and Condensed Chaos, both by Phil Hine

Um...I could go on. I'm going upstairs to look at my bookshelf.
 
 
Doc Checkmate
19:03 / 01.08.06
Most of the practical instructions from the Eshelman book (which in turn come from Crowley's books) can be found here, on the website for that branch of the A.'.A.'.

THAT'S the bulk of the Eshelman book? I've looked through that site before. If that's all it is, then thank Manjushri I didn't actually shell out for the worthless piece of crap. Are you sure? Is the Eshelman really a collection of Crowley's libri with very little supplemental material? Weak.
 
 
EvskiG
19:21 / 01.08.06
Eshelman has a fair amount of commentary on the A.'.A.'. syllabi and instructions, and a great section on the history of A.'.A.'., but the syllabi and instructions (neatly gathered in one place, by grade) are the heart of the book.
 
 
--
20:08 / 01.08.06
"Beyond the Mauve Zone", mainly because it's the only Kenneth Grant book I can't find (at a reasonable price, that is).

And, of course, the elusive Booke of Calthurr, supposedly one of the rarest occult books known to humankind. I've only ever seen the cover, table of contents, and a few paragraphs from it.
 
 
Doc Checkmate
00:33 / 02.08.06
Eshelman has a fair amount of commentary on the A.'.A.'. syllabi and instructions, and a great section on the history of A.'.A.'., but the syllabi and instructions (neatly gathered in one place, by grade) are the heart of the book.

Gah. I was picturing something similar to the Ciceros' "Self-Initiation Into the Golden Dawn Tradition," filled with extra goodies to compensate for the fact that the bare texts pre-suppose a real live teacher.

By the way, Sypha, almost two years ago I e-mailed you asking for the contact info of your OTO e-acquaintances in Providence. I met them, learned stuff, did stuff, met other people through them, did other stuff, said "93" to Lon Milo DuQuette, got rapturously drunk on terrible mead... it basically jump-started my headlong plunge into the occult after lots of reading and dicking around. You don't actually know me, but you basically gave me magic. So thanks, sincerely.

Also, you should definitely give those folks a buzz if you're still in or near Provy (I've relocated to Massachusetts, alas)... they're great people, and not at all scary snobbish Thelemites--totally non-sectarian in who they hang and work with. The water's fine.

(Sorry about the threadrot.)
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
08:05 / 03.08.06
I know I keep banging on about this but I'm going to put in yet another mention for The Element Encyclopedia of 5000 spells, by Judika Illes.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
08:34 / 03.08.06
Eshelman thread rot: I'd say there's more to the Eshelman book than what's on that website. The structure is more or less the same, but the book gives you a much clearer idea of what Crowley's vision of the A.'.A.'. was supposed to entail on a grade by grade basis. He gives you a good sense of what you are supposed to accomplish in each grade, and he orders all of Crowley's material pertaining to each grade so you know what is relevant where and why. It helps you to fathom your way through the A.'.A.'. material, which is mostly all readily available, but scattered so confusingly throughout the published output that it's useful to have a thread through that labyrinth. The Eshelman book is basically just this thread, but I personally found it invaluable in understanding what the A.'.A.'. grades are supposed to be about, and it gave me a strong foundation for attempting to reinterprate the key tropes of this system through the lens of my own aesthetic without inadvertantly missing anything important.

I like it. I wouldn't pay the extortionate price that it sells for though. No chance of that. But fortunately I have ways and means...

You confuse me above by talking about the Cicero's as if they are a good thing. I hate their dubious contributions to Regardie's material. Horrible Llewellynisation of classic early 20th century occult texts that don't really need this pair painting their own vision all over something that was good anyway. It pisses me off that you can't buy a copy of something like the Middle Pillar without having to deal with the Cicero's thrown into the bargain. I just want the original text. I don't want an expanded section about chakras and suchlike that is actually twice the size of the book itself. It's like if you could only buy Nick Drake's "Pink Moon" with additional vocals by James Blunt or something. Ghastly. Horrible. Bad Ciceros.
 
 
Doc Checkmate
12:13 / 03.08.06
I hate [the Ciceros'] dubious contributions to Regardie's material.

Agreed.

Horrible Llewellynisation of classic early 20th century occult texts that don't really need this pair painting their own vision all over something that was good anyway.

Agreed.

It pisses me off that you can't buy a copy of something like the Middle Pillar without having to deal with the Cicero's thrown into the bargain. I just want the original text. I don't want an expanded section about chakras and suchlike that is actually twice the size of the book itself.

Agreed.

BUT... I wasn't talking about the Ciceros playing Pop-Up Video with "A Garden of Pomegranates." I've got nice, (reasonably) clean copies of "The Tree of Life" and "The Golden Dawn" on my shelf, and yet I like having the Ciceros' own book on the shelf as well. It's a supplement to, not a mangling of, the Golden Dawn material, as I imagine the Eshelman is of the Crowley. It doesn't sound like the Eshelman makes you say, "Ugh! Get OFF my libri, fool!" nor should it. Try making your way through the "Golden Dawn" sections on astrology and geomancy. Feel like you get them now? Yeah, it's doable, but the material is abstruse, tedious, and often devoid of key beginner information. The Ciceros do in "Self-Initiation..." what the raw Golden Dawn teaching texts don't: realize that you don't have a flesh-and-blood instructor and step in to fill that gap as best they can. I applaud them for that, even if their endnotes in "The Tree of Life" make me wanna grab the nine and the shotty.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
12:18 / 03.08.06
Fair enough. I've never read their Golden Dawn guidebook thing. Was put right off it by their Regardie supplements and I just figured it would be more of the same, although I've heard various people rate it. I might give it a look at some point.
 
 
EvskiG
13:50 / 03.08.06
Agree with Doc on the Ciceros. Their parasitical add-ons to the Regardie books are unnecessary and unwieldy, and I'm not fond of their tarot. But their Self-Initiation book is quite good, and The Essential Golden Dawn is a little gem -- an excellent introduction to not only the Golden Dawn but the entire Western Esoteric Tradition.

Also agree with GL on the Eshelman. As I said, the A.'.A.'. syllabi and instructions are the heart of the book, but the organization of everything into a rational structure, and the commentary on each requirement for each grade (e.g., the Building of the Pantacle, the Four Powers of the Sphinx, etc.) are quite helpful.

If the book actually included all of the Crowley libri in the proper order (instead of sending you off hunting for them in various places) it would be just about ideal.
 
 
Fritz K Driftwood
06:21 / 08.08.06
For the physical side of the occult, I would also suggest Regardie's "One Year Manual"*, not to mention some version of "The Five Tibetans" to cover physical health. The Five Tibetans comes under a variety of names and I have seen at least three books cover it, all with different titles. Kraig covers the five yoga positions in his Modern Magick, but I don't think he includes the story behind the positions. The original is written in an early twentieth century style that always make me think of Edgar Rice Burroughs or even worse "The Initiate". (shudder)

It's worth noting that Crowley studied yoga (for awhile at least) and his "8 Lectures on Yoga" is still in print, or was a couple of years ago.


* One of the few books written by Regardie that Chic and Sandra haven't gotten their hands on.
 
 
EvskiG
11:35 / 08.08.06
The Five Tibetans always seemed incredibly suspect to me. (Twirl! Leg raise! Mild backbend! Milder backbend! Half-assed upward and downward dog!)

Even so, they're easy to do at any fitness level, and doing them is much, much better than doing no exercise at all.

For someone looking to begin "the physical side of the occult," I'd recommend Jean Couch's "The Runner's Yoga Book." A super-easy and understandable introduction to hatha yoga for people at any level of fitness and flexibility.

And much better than sitting around in pain with a saucer full of water on your head.
 
 
EvskiG
14:44 / 08.08.06
To return to the topic, here is another batch of non-crap books I’d add to that ideal magic section of the ideal bookstore:

A bit of Bonewits:

Real Magic, Isaac Bonewits
Bonewits’s Essential Guide to Druidism, Isaac Bonewits
Bonewits’s Essential Guide to Witchcraft & Wicca, Isaac Bonewits

A range of Regardie:

The Middle Pillar, Israel Regardie
The Tree of Life, Israel Regardie
The Eye in the Triangle, Israel Regardie
Crowley’s Apprentice, Gerald Suster

A collection of Crowley and commentary:

The Blue Equinox, Aleister Crowley et al.
The Book of the Law, Aleister Crowley
Magic Without Tears, Aleister Crowley
Aleister Crowley and the Practice of the Magical Diary, Aleister Crowley et al.
Abrahadabra: Understanding Aleister Crowley’s Thelemic Magic, Rodney Orpheus
The Confessions of Aleister Crowley, Aleister Crowley
Do What Thou Wilt, A Life of Aleister Crowely

A gathering of Golden Dawn material:

The Training and Work of an Initiate, Dion Fortune
The Golden Dawn Scrapbook, R.A. Gilbert
Women of the Golden Dawn, Mary Greer

Some diverse DuQuette:

My Life With the Spirits, Lon Milo Duquette
Angels, Demons, and Gods of the New Millenium, Lon Milo Duquette

A practical primer:

Practical Solitary Magic, Nancy Watson (an excellent little book)

A gathering of Gurdjieff:

Meetings With Remarkable Men, G.I. Gurdjieff
Gurdjieff, John Shirley

Yoga in theory:

Raja Yoga, Vivekananda,
Jnana Yoga, Vivekananda
Karma Yoga & Bhakti Yoga, Vivekananda
Light on The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, B.K.S. Iyengar

And practice:

The Runner’s Yoga Book, Jean Couch
Light on Yoga, B.K.S. Iyengar
Light on Pranayama, B.K.S. Iyengar

Taoism and Zen:

Tao Te Ching, Lao Tsu (Stephen Mitchell translation)
Tao Te Ching, Lao Tsu (Jonathan Star translation)
The Secret of the Golden Flower, Tung-Pin Lu
I Ching (Richard Wilhelm translation)
The Three Pillars of Zen, Philip Kapleau

Meditation and mindfulness:

Journey of Awakening, Ram Dass
Total Freedom: The Essential Krishnamurti, Jiddu Krishnamurti

Miscellaneous:

Meditation and Kabbalah, Aryeh Kaplan
Alchemy, Marie-Louise Von Franz
Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious, Carl Jung
Synchronicity: An Acausal Connecting Principle, Carl Jung
Giordano Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition, Frances A. Yates

And a big finish with silk scarves and pigeons:

Modern Coin Magic, J.B. Bobo
Practical Mental Magic, Theodore Annemann
The Men Who Stare at Goats, Jon Ronson
Flim-Flam! Psychics, ESP, Unicorns, and Other Delusions, James Randi
 
 
Doc Checkmate
15:14 / 08.08.06
Great list, Ev. How the hell did we miss the I Ching?

I'd add:
Dion Fortune's "The Mystical Qabalah"

Richard Kazcynski's "Perdurabo: The Life of Aleister Crowley"

Some more DuQuette just to make dirty uncle Al and WCM a little more approachable--say, DuQuette's book on Goetia and the pretty useful Enochian starter "Enochian World of Aleister Crowley: Enochian Sex Magic" with Hyatt

Sogyal Rinpoche's "The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying"
 
 
Doc Checkmate
15:19 / 08.08.06
Actually, that's rather a lot of DuQuette when taken all together. Maybe too much--a critical mass of jollity and homespun allegories. I take it back. There's no way DuQuette should take up as much space on an "occult section" shelf as Israel Regardie and more than Fortune.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
15:36 / 08.08.06
A good selection of books on Tantra (as opposed to all the rub 'n' tug stuff) & South Asian studies would be nice to see:

Kiss of the Yogini: Tantric Sex in it's South Asian Context - David Gordon White (University of Chicago Press, 2003)

Tantra: Sex, Secrecy, Politics and Power in the Study of Religion - Hugh Urban (University of Chicago Press, 2003)

Auspicious Wisdom: The Texts and Traditions of Srividya Sakta Tantrism (SUNY, 1992)

The Triadic Heart of Siva: Kaula Tantricism of Abhinavagupta in the Non-Dual Shaivism of Kashmir - Paul Muller-Ortega (SUNY 1989)

Tantra in Practice - edited by David Gordon White (can't remember the publishing house offhand)

Ganapati: Song of the Self - John A Grimes (SUNY 1995)

Offering Flowers, Feeding Skulls - June McDaniel (OUP 2004)

Passionate Enlightenment - Miranda Shaw (Princeton University Press 1995)

At the Feet of the Goddess - Lynn Foulston (Sussex Academic Press 1999)
 
  
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