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Conscious Dying

 
 
Cloned Christ on a HoverDonkey
21:12 / 30.07.06
A Buddhist friend of mine has just invited me to this 4 day course.

He's one of the very few people who I know I'll be friends with for life and has recently (a year or two ago) become a Buddhist. He says I have the most supple mind of all the people he knows and I must admit I'm eager to try something new.

I have two major concerns:

a) I'm usually a very scientific person, but very open minded about spiritual matters. I'm afraid, though, that I may have too many mental walls already pretty solidly built that would prevent me gaining anything on this course.

b) I have no background at all in matters of meditation.

I'm hoping that some of the more experienced barbeloids can give opinions and advice.

I love this guy and can see the whole experience being a very positive, enjoyable, relaxing occasion and so I'd like to go.

But will it 'do anything' for me?

All comments will be appreciated.
 
 
redtara
23:27 / 30.07.06
I have come across Lama Ole. I used to visit the local buddies group that one of his pupils started. He (the pupil) had videos of teaching sessions Lama Ole had given and I liked his style. I think he is a good man and a teacher I would have liked more access to. For whatever that's worth.

As far as your walls and lack of meditation experience goes I wouldn't let that put you off. You have a (supple!) mind and all meditation is is listening and becoming aware of the white noise of thought and calming it with practice.

Conscious dying, as much as I understand it is embracing your impending death every day so that you live more fully and when death arrives you arn't wasting energy on fear or regret. This enables your consciousness to 'survive' (totaly the wrong word) death and know itself after the body has expired.

This is my rather dodgy rehash of stuff I have been curious about. Hopefully some propper buddhists will be along soon to put you straight.
 
 
johnny enigma
09:25 / 31.07.06
I had a quick look at the link and it seems like this particular retreat is for people who are very serious about their Buddhism, so this may not be the course for you.
However, I think Buddhism has alot to offer those with a scientific mind - Buddha is the only major religious leader I've ever come across that encourage his followers to question his own teachings. From what I've read, Buddha was very into the idea that his followers made their own minds up and didn't just follow him blindly.
I can also testify from my own use of Buddhist meditation techniques that there are extremely effective - and what I was using was pretty basic.
If you really like the idea of this course, maybe you should drop the organisers an e mail and explain your situation. It seems as if you're definitely interseted in the subject, so why not try using some basic daily meditations even if you don't end up going?
 
 
Cloned Christ on a HoverDonkey
20:43 / 01.08.06
Thamks for your feedback.

I'm still in two minds as to whether to go or not, as I know it's probably too advanced for me but I'd love the four relaxing days in a best friend's company.

May well be decided by the toss of a coin or the roll of a dice.
 
 
Doc Checkmate
00:08 / 02.08.06
Phowa is pretty advanced. It's one of the six yogas of Naropa, which includes the famous tummo technique--a Kundalini-esque practice of "inner heat" with which a lama can dry out sopping wet blankets laid on his body in the middle of a snowstorm (not that that's the point of it, but it's pretty friggin cool).

The basic idea with phowa is that a practitioner who has begun the final dying process forcibly ejects his spirit out through the crown of his head, skips a whole lot of the bardo nastiness that exists between lives, and enters more or less directly into
a) a favorable rebirth as a human or heavenly being
b) a Buddha realm, sometimes called a "Pure Land," where all conditions are favorable towards reaching enlightenment
c) (for the ace, A-list practitioners) complete enlightenment and the end of cyclic existence

The freaky thing about phowa is that when they say, "out through the crown of his head," they mean it. Supposedly, the practice actually causes a hole to appear in the top of the head; lamas teaching phowa test the progress of their students by inserting flower stems into their heads and seeing if they stay. This sounds completely unbelievable, but for what it's worth, my teacher says she attended a phowa retreat and that tons of people there (normal, everyday Buddhists, not just lamas) got the little holes. Can't explain it and don't know what kind of hole: goes away or sticks around, how deep, whatever. Also, my teacher mentioned that once you learn phowa to your guru's satisfaction, you do NOT practice it again, as there's risk you'll actually pull it off and die right there. Pretty nuts.
 
  
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