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A Great Disturbance in the Force

16:51 / 25.09.01

Disturbance in Global Consciousness on September 11

Is this just absolute bollocks which I am fascinated by - or can anyone tell me if there is anything actually to it?

Preferably, I'd like them to do it without linking to sites about aliens with questionable right-wing links at the bottom of the page. If you know what I mean.

[ 25-09-2001: Message edited by: JB again ]

17:03 / 25.09.01

from the magick side- I went remote viewing to the US on 9/11. from where I was standing, it was a vision of hell.

18:29 / 25.09.01

did you know what to expect at the time or had you not heard news reports here?

18:52 / 25.09.01

ah. scepticism. I don't do self-justification, sorry Kriz.

tom-karika nukes it from orbit

07:09 / 26.09.01

Some of those graphs are badly mushed up. The peaks that they show seem to have been highlighted rather too much.
Problem is, they need another major disaster or two to prove it works, which seems a bit far to go, even in the cause of science.

08:04 / 26.09.01

Don't have time to read through the whole article.. BUT I did wake up with a ringing in my ear right ear that morning(V. early morning US time )This has never happened to me before to the best of my knowledge.
Make of it what you will.

23:13 / 29.09.01

This is fascinating, and I certainly believe such a thing exists (as global consciousness/mass mind connection).

But can anyone tell me just how they measure the readings from their "EGG"s? What exactly is the variance they're measuring?

Electromagnetic waves in the air? Or something else? what exactly are these EGGs designed to pick up? I tried to find it in the article you linked but didn't see a concrete mention of it (then again, I just skimmed the thing, albeit a thorough skim)

07:00 / 30.09.01

quote:Originally posted by Naked Flame:
ah. scepticism. I don't do self-justification, sorry Kriz.

Hmm. Seems like the only way one could participate in such things as "remote viewing" and believe them to be anything more than imagination (and subsequent, selective remembering) would be with a generous dose of self-justification.

In my opinion.

Clavis

06:48 / 02.10.01

I would be interested to see the graphs for periods when the USA was bombing Iraq. This has been going on till pretty recently, deffinatly last year if not this. I should point out that there are hundereds, THAT'S HUNDEREDS, of thousands of people terrified and starving to death at the Afganistan borders, and every sane indevidual on the planet is shitting a brick at the posturing and war mongering of the west. Wouldn't that have some kind of effect on the Global conciousness?

As to remote viewing, the CIA took it seriously enough to 'train' opperatives, often office based data analysts, in remote viewing techniques, to spy on the USSR. Make of that what you will.

15:29 / 02.10.01

Redtara, the US still bombs Iraq! (as mentioned by somebody on the radio recently.)

16:26 / 02.10.01

quote:Originally posted by redtara:
As to remote viewing, the CIA took it seriously enough to 'train' opperatives, often office based data analysts, in remote viewing techniques, to spy on the USSR. Make of that what you will.

Not much. Shit, the gummint's still spending money on SDI.

06:46 / 16.10.01

quote:Originally posted by HunterWolf:
But can anyone tell me just how they measure the readings from their "EGG"s? What exactly is the variance they're measuring?

From what I gather from that link the EGG's don't "measure" anything -- they just produce random numbers and report 'em back. Basically they're glorified white noise generators. The theory is that big changes in the "global consciousness" can impact those numbers, or in this case the variance among them. The farther the random number generation deviates from normality, I suppose, the more extraordinary it's considered.

Haven't you ever seen those tests where a computer has a little sprite moving in a Brownian pattern and someone tries to "will" it to go to one edge of the screen or another, or some such thing? Or tried to impact a 50% odds generator to lean one way or the other?

Or maybe that's just me...

As for electromagnetic waves... w-ell... technically EM fields inducting into the circuitry of the things, or random alpha particles and quarks and gluons and astral wossnames and all that foolishness impacting various components certainly could have an effect on the output. So the question of whether or not they're "measuring" anything is actually quite a deeply technical one.

It's entirely possible, for instance, that the spikes in variance you see on those charts were caused by the millions of TV's going on and phone calls being made in the area.

Which isn't to say it's not also a ramification of a ripple in the astral overmind.

Hey, I'm easy.