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TeN
21:26 / 07.07.06
This is a thread for little questions that can probably be easily answered and don't really warrant an entire thread to themselves.

Ask away.

I'll kick it off:
What exactly was Gilberto Gil trying to say with the song "Queremos Guerra"? The title of course translates to "We Want War" but that doesn't sound like something Gil would be advocating. Is the song satirical? Sarcastic? Is the "war" described a war against the government (I know Brazil was ruled under a military regime at the time, but I'm a bit fuzzy on the details)? I don't speak Portugese (and my Spanish is very poor) and I haven't been able to find a translated version anywhere, so any attempt at interpretation on my part is impossible. Can anyone help me out here? It's a damn catchy song, but I always feel a bit awkward singing along to the chorus.
 
 
Lugue
22:00 / 07.07.06
Hmm. I'm not at all good at reading into policital subtext in lyrics, as my experience with Portuguese revolutionary songs pre-1974 would seem to indicate. And well, if I can't fully catch on to my own country's expressions of politics through art, not much hope of being tuned into the full meaning of this, right? Anyway, the lyrics essentially go:

War, we want war, war, we want war
But only if it's not sunny tomorrow
And if it's rainy, too
I won't stay home
Because I'm not here to get a wicked cold
And not be able to see my girlfriend by the end of the week
And not be able to see my girlfriend by the end of the week

War, we want war, war, we want war
But only if it's to fight with my mother-in-law
Who, I don't know why yet, doesn't like me
I am a considerate, nice boy
I'm even loved by my dear mother
Who since I was little taught me what affection is
How ugly war is, how beautiful love is
Who since I was little taught me what affection is
How ugly war is, how beautiful love is

War, it's just a moment, after war comes forgetfulness*
War, it's just a momement, after war comes forgetfulness
War, it's just a moment, after war comes forgetfulness
War, we want war, war, we want war.


(* Not the tendency for forgetting things, but the state of being forgotten - the English word for which is completely unknown to me.)

Which, if anything, seems to say light-heartedly that war is just a meaningless affair when compared to the lyrical subject's simple concerns in life.

Mind you, it's perfectly possible that I'm not perceptive enough, or not knowledgeable enough (maybe even both) to understand the song's true meaning. Maybe your own interpretation may differ, but heck, at least now you have a, I hope, reasonable translation, and can make up your own mind as to it. Also, Brazilian posters, or more informed 'lithers, may add to understanding this - if there is indeed anything more to understand.

Anyway. Sing away!

Bu-u-uuuut...

Doesn't this sort of question deserve a more specific thread? Either about lyrics in general or possibly requests from other 'lithers about those in languages they don't understand (which could encompass both translation requests and historic/cultural/etc. background enlightenment)?

It's just that, if it is indeed supposed to fall into the same line as other 101 threads around here, this seems a highly specific issue to kick it off, non?
 
 
TeN
23:38 / 07.07.06
thanks!
that helps a ton



"Doesn't this sort of question deserve a more specific thread? Either about lyrics in general or possibly requests from other 'lithers about those in languages they don't understand (which could encompass both translation requests and historic/cultural/etc. background enlightenment)?
I hadn't considered the possibility of a thread like that when I made this one, but that actually sounds like a good idea. feel free to start that thread if you want. right now, my question being answered, I don't really have the impetus to (although maybe I will in the future).

"It's just that, if it is indeed supposed to fall into the same line as other 101 threads around here, this seems a highly specific issue to kick it off, non?"
I don't necesarilly think that my question was too specific to kick off this thread. perhaps my attempt to make this thread parallel similar to the Art 101 thread is the problem... on second glance, they don't really intend to do the same thing... I probably should have picked a different title. I wish you could edit thread titles and abstracts. Hmph!
 
 
Lugue
00:03 / 08.07.06
Yer'welcome!

As to threadishness: lets just see how it goes; if others come about with the same sort of question, it might be better to create that specific thread, if not, it might simply not be worth it, in which case allowing this thread to deal with more specific issues will probably be alright - meaning, might as well let those potentially envolved better determine its nature, I suppose.

(Oh, and I thought you could edit thread titles and abstracts... maybe through a request over in Policy, if you've figured out something better?)
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
15:05 / 08.07.06
Isn't the 'Stupid Music Questions' thread good for the same purpose as this one? We can always take out the "stupid" from the title...
 
 
grant
02:01 / 10.07.06
I'd suggest locking this one unless anyone can think of a really good way to distinguish between them.
 
  
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