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Hate Groups Enter Baghdad via the US Military

 
 
electric monk
15:47 / 07.07.06
Hate Groups Are Infiltrating the Military, Group Asserts

From the article:

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks racist and right-wing militia groups, estimated that the numbers could run into the thousands, citing interviews with Defense Department investigators and reports and postings on racist Web sites and magazines.

We've got Aryan Nations graffiti in Baghdad," the group quoted a Defense Department investigator as saying in a report to be posted today on its Web site, www.splcenter.org. "That's a problem."

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"An article in the National Alliance magazine Resistance urged skinheads to join the Army and insist on being assigned to light infantry units.

The Southern Poverty Law Center identified the author as Steven Barry, who it said was a former Special Forces officer who was the alliance's "military unit coordinator."

"Light infantry is your branch of choice because the coming race war and the ethnic cleansing to follow will be very much an infantryman's war," he wrote. "It will be house-to-house, neighborhood-by-neighborhood until your town or city is cleared and the alien races are driven into the countryside where they can be hunted down and 'cleansed.' "

He concluded: "As a professional soldier, my goal is to fill the ranks of the United States Army with skinheads. As street brawlers, you will be useless in the coming race war. As trained infantrymen, you will join the ranks of the Aryan warrior brotherhood."


%Well, it's good to have goals, isn't it?%

So on the one side, we have groups of extremist Muslims using Iraq as a training ground for their jihad. One the other side, we have white supremacist groups using Iraq as a training ground for their race war. The not-quite covert racial component of this war has been present since it's inception, IMO, beginning with GWB's infamous "crusade" statement and has gone pear-shaped from there. I've heard far too many people talk of rounding up all Muslims or all Arabs and sending them to Gitmo. And the idea that the Muslim faith is one of violence and bloody retribution, while not prevalent in American society, is there and considered valid by some. Too damn many, frankly.

This latest news cannot be good for America's already tarnished (shit-covered?) image abroad. And as shocking as I found this initially, it now seems a rather natural, if horrifying, progression. We've gone from hunting stateless terrorist organizations to attacking Arab states, which sends a pretty racist message all it's own. I can't imagine the Pentagon, under Rumsfeld, appointing a task force to investigate this or announcing a new zero tolerance policy. I get the feeling we're more likely to be assured that "it'll be taken care of", followed by a whole lotta nothing.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
16:35 / 07.07.06
In a daffy pie-in-the-sky way, since the military tends to pull its rank-and-file from among the economically underprivileged -- which are often minorities -- one might hope that having the racists working and fighting side-by-side, shoulder-to-shoulder with minorities would actually encourage them to change their attitudes.

I'm not holding my breath, though.
 
 
grant
16:45 / 07.07.06
I'd really like to see something about military subcultures before really commenting on this; I'm not convinced it's confined to this nation, this conflict or this period of history. Thinking of Hell's Angels (not a "hate group," per se) starting as a military unit, and also about extremist subcultures in prison.
 
 
grant
16:58 / 07.07.06
And, for that matter, why the Pentagon would find it necessary to institute a zero-tolerance policy in the first place....
 
 
electric monk
18:11 / 07.07.06
I'm not convinced it's confined to this nation, this conflict or this period of history.

Agreed. I'd thought much the same when I was typing out my initial post and had in mind the racist caricatures of the Japanese and Germans during WWII. Maybe we should expand the discussion outwards a bit to include racist attitudes and actions during previous conflicts. "Racist Life During Wartime"? "This Fuckwit's Army"?
 
 
grant
20:36 / 07.07.06
Wellll.... in that case, I think demonizing the enemy based on racial stereotyping is a different thing than the infiltration or creation of subcultures inside the organization. If it was the KKK distributing the cartoons, maybe.

Actually, there has to be research on the KKK in the military. They were HUGE at the beginning of the last century (things I learned from Superman -- the radio show collaborated with a famous undercover investigator Stetson Kennendy to give away all their secret signs and code words as Supes battled the Klan in... must've been the 50s, I think.)

Lemme look....

Can't find much on Klan inside the Army, other than a few brief mentions. For the most part, they thought of the Army as the enemy, being good Confederates. And still do, like so....

Oh, there's this from an old Guardian article:
In the aftermath of Martin Luther King's assassination on April 4, 1968, black Americans rioted in more than 100 US cities. But in Vietnam many white soldiers flagrantly applauded his murder. At Cam Ranh Bay, a group of white men wore Ku Klux Klan robes and paraded around the military base. At another compound, the Confederate flag, so symbolic of racial persecution, was hoisted for three days....Other grisly practices, such as cross burnings, were uprooted from Alabama and Mississippi to the war theatre of Vietnam, and some commanders tolerated Ku Klux Klan "klaverns" on their bases.

It's about Vietnam as the first truly integrated war, and the whole thing's worth a read. In the South, some draft boards were run by the Klan.

Which led to the formation of opposing subcultures:
he black Americans who were drafted from 1967 to 1970 called themselves Bloods, and many were influenced by the teachings and politics of Stokely Carmichael, the Black Panthers and Malcolm X.

Terry explains: "They would wear black amulets, they would wear black beads, black gloves to show their identity and racial pride." Some wore "slave bracelets" made out of boot laces and walked with "Black Power canes", sticks with the nub carved into a clenched fist. To offset the oppressive ubiquity of the Confederate flag, these soldiers flew black flags from their patrol boats and Jeeps. Another group of black servicemen, who were followers of Ron Karenga's US (United Slaves), created a flag that asserted in Swahili "My fear is for you". The "dap", a complicated ritualised handshake that changed from unit to unit , was also common among black personnel in Vietnam....To increase their racial solidarity, some black troops also started semi-militant bodies. Blacks In Action, the Unsatisfied Black Soldier, the Ju Jus and the Mau Maus were just some of these groups that, as Terry explains, "supported each other and studied black history and talked about events in America and were willing to support each other in an enlisted club over black music. If they wanted something in the post exchange, they would collectively request it."



There's more interesting stuff later on, especially about how things changed closer to the front lines, and how this stuff paved the way for Colin Powell's career.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:55 / 07.07.06
(things I learned from Superman -- the radio show collaborated with a famous undercover investigator Stetson Kennendy to give away all their secret signs and code words as Supes battled the Klan in... must've been the 50s, I think.)

Really? I'd like to hear more about that (though maybe this wouldn't be the thread for it).
 
 
Axolotl
15:16 / 09.07.06
I'm unsure of my facts (as ever) but isn't the miltary often cited as one of the most racially integrated institutions in the US with a large proportion of african-americans both in the miltary both in the rank and file and among the officers?
I guess the problem is if the military has been lowering its standards due to a shortage of manpower then have they compromised themselves?
 
 
SMS
20:49 / 09.07.06
[i]Freakonomics[/i] has a chapter on the KKK and Superman. If you're interested, it might be worth checking it out of the library.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
02:11 / 11.07.06
I don't think this movement has anything to do with the military needed people so desperately they'll take almost anyone, but I do think desperation has a lot to do with it.

I know it's a stereotype, but a majority of people who join the military do so because tyhey are unable or unskilled in getting employment that pays a living wage. I've heard too many stories about people saying that their choices were to work at Wal-Mart or join the military to dismiss them. The "white power" movement has also always recruited people on the lower end of the economic ladder who are looking for someone to blame for their problems.

So, you have two groups that appeal to the same people, it's just natural that they will meet up at some point. Add to that the YERARS of propoganda that Arabs are terrorist savages who exist only to be mowed down by our valiant movie heroes, and you add in a powerful element of racial hatred that is easily tapped and is by the right wing elements of the media.

When a spokesman for the right wing who is on TV two or three times a day is known for saying that we need to kill all their leaders and convert them to Christianity fans the fires, you have to wonder how far the underground media is going to whip people up to go into the military to kill brown people and take their oil.

My only surprise is that the military is claiming they never thought this could happen. I really don't think they are that stupid.
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
08:04 / 12.07.06
My understanding of the US military was that it was already very heavily segregated down racial lines, similar to prisons and had problems with no go areas on military bases and some of the larger ships, gang violence etc. etc.
 
  
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