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Current 93- Black Ships Ate The Sky

 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:56 / 05.07.06
Just got my copy this morning. And WOW.

More than any other band I know, C93 always sound like a work in progress. It's all about Tibet's constant progression.

Punctuated by various renditions of a Charles Wesley hymn (bloody hell! industrial Methodism!) by Marc Almond, Shirley Collins, Cosey, Antony... this sounds like all the best things about all his previous work, all at once (but not like The Great In The Small, which isn't really a re-listener).

The closest album I can think of to Black Ships is All The Pretty Little Horses, for eclecticism and sheer sprawl. But Horses is nowhere near as ... BIG. This is ENORMOUS. Absolutely fucking enormous.

To tell you the truth, I'm a little stunned by it all at the moment.

I know various other 'lithers either have this or are planning on getting it...

...anyone wanna share any thoughts? I think I'll be trying to unravel this one for fucking ages.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
19:15 / 05.07.06
You got your copy before me! I'm still waiting for Amazon to get it, which is anticipated before July 9 but might take 'til fucking Doomsday, knowing them.

When it gets here there will be red wine and headphones and I will write volumes, guaranteed.
 
 
ghadis
20:00 / 05.07.06
Looking forward to this!!

The last one i got was the recent Jon Balance tribute 'Moonsongs for..' Remix stuff from previous albums which i havn't got.

I really should track down more C93 stuff.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:28 / 05.07.06
I was fairly disinclined to believe all Tibet's recent talk of how this is the album he's been wanting to make forever, this is the most fully realised he's ever made C93, etc etc, because it's the kind of thing everyone says when they're promoting new stuff. But I can well believe it.

It hits ALL the buttons. And with Current 93, there are a LOT of buttons to hit- usually he hits 'em one or two at a time (Soft Black Stars, for example, or Sleep Has His House, being albums with a single defining sound. Brilliant though they both are, they both stick to their own sound pretty much exclusively) but with Black Ships, he's hitting more buttons than an octopus with ADD. It's mostly the latter-day folky C93 sound, but it goes through pretty much every variant of that that we've already heard, plus a few new ones (the inclusion of Will Oldham is inspired- it's like 93's UK-centric sound has suddenly been ripped right open to encompass a whole new realm- as befits an album dealing with the Apocalypse, it all becomes pretty damn universal). And the title track harks right back to the noisier sections of Christ And The Pale Queens Mighty In Sorrow.

Like All The Pretty Little Horses, and Thunder Perfect Mind, it seems like, musically at least, he's taking all the lessons he's learned form the more "minimal" albums in between and putting them all to good use.

People keep asking me which would be a good C93 album to start with, if they're not already familiar with them- this, I reckon, would be a damn good one. It really DOES do everything they're good at, all at once. It's not as heartbreaking as Of Ruine Or Some Blazing Starre, but it's equally as beautiful.

By crikey, I love this album.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
14:07 / 06.07.06
Hmm. Better than "Of Ruine"? I officially can't bloody wait. Stupid Amazon. Stupid Canada. Stupid ocean.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:48 / 06.07.06
Not sure if it's BETTER than Of Ruine... but it's equally as good, in different ways. There's a part where the production really reminds me of the poplar trees section on that album, which is A Good Thing whichever way you look at it.

At the moment, I'll go on record as saying it's the best thing he's done... but I'm aware some of this may be down to it being the new and loooong-awaited album. Ruine's been a favourite for some twelve or so years, though...
 
 
GogMickGog
09:33 / 07.07.06
Well, of all their stuff I've heard- which is bits here and there- it's certainly my favourite and the most coherent set of songs to boot. Very theatrical ("Dissolution of the boats..." is the perfect soundtrack to something very sinister)

Oh, it's beautiful and the whols crazed Methodist aspect is one I find deeply appealing. Stoatie, which is your favourite version of the hymn on there? The Shirley Collins is a clear lead for me, but I'm also loving the Will Oldham too.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
10:59 / 07.07.06
Probably the Oldham, though I change my mind every time I put the album on.
 
 
+#'s, - names
14:48 / 07.07.06
Mine has to be Baby Dee's, first because it is awesome and second because in the tradition of Drew Carey I have pride in the city of Cleveland. It's so cool occasionally seeing a member of the durtro stable at the grocery store.

According to the durtro mailing list there are some mp3 samples from the album on the wire site. (pops)
 
 
Kiltartan Cross
16:43 / 07.07.06
I've just listened to Judas as Black Moth for the first time. I wasn't at all impressed - most of the songs sounded, to me, like a spaced out Leonard Cohen, I'm afraid - until I got to his version of The Coal Black Smith, which was really ace*, and Lucifer over London. Brilliant. Where before his vocals and delivery had seemed - sorry - vapid and a touch pretentious, on those tracks they suited perfectly, and gained a real air of menace.

How does Black Ships compare for style to those tracks?


*Yeah man, I think.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
17:33 / 07.07.06
There's a definite Lucifer Over London vibe to some of it... Coal Black Smith less so, as Cashmore's guitar work (which defines most of the album) is more complex.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
09:08 / 11.07.06
CURRRRSE YOU AMAZONNNN

You've been charged only for the items sent in this shipment. (As per our policy, you pay for items only when we ship them to you.) The following items will ship separately, as soon as they're available:
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1 Black Ships Ate The Sky CDN$ 21.99 1


Anticipation just increases eventual satisfaction though, right? RIGHT?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
12:52 / 11.07.06
If I was you I'd cancel and order it from Durtro- mine came in about three days.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
13:29 / 11.07.06
Largely a financial choice. After conversion and 5 pounds S&H and quite-probably taxes and a $5 handling fee from Customs at the border, which often happens for things worth more than CAD$20 here in Canada, there's a difference equal to roughly a whole other CD in price.

And, for added comedy value:

Durtro shop sleeps for 10 days

The Durtro shop will not be manned from today, 6 July, to 17 July inclusive, but it will remain open for orders. All orders will be processed, and letters answered, when we return on 17 July.


GOD MOCKS ME.

Silver lining:

The majority of items available from the shop are now manufactured in, and shipped from, our base in Toronto, Canada...

I have no idea if that actually means anything good for me, living here in Canada, but it hopefully should somehow.

Ideally, this will mean that if I order from Durtro in future I won't have to pay 5 pounds shipping to "the rest of the world" because I live rather close to where the orders actually ship from. One hopes.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:36 / 11.07.06
Ah well. I assure you it's worth the wait, though.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
23:54 / 23.07.06
Well, I've taken a punt on it, based on what's been written here. I ordered it (along with the 2CD remaster of Thunder Perfect Mind) from Strange Fortune (who're also doing preorders for the Coil rereleases/expansions of Remote Viewer, Black Antlers, ANS etc) for about as much as it'd cost anywhere, and so will give feedback when it arrives.

The samples I've heard I like: suitably both austere and fiddly. I've only ever heard the C93/NWW album Bright Yellow Moon so I suspect the arrival of these two discs could be the start of a beeyoutiful education.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:32 / 15.09.06
Any of you guys who've just got it got any opinions of it?

I swear, this gets better with every listen. And if one believes Tibet that it was written before the 2005 terrorist attacks on London, some of it is really spooky.

And apart from anything else, nobody else could have written the lines

And I say like Lazarus I arise in time
For tea and toast and judgment
And all that stuff that rests in the land of Jack and Jill.


It's just utterly gorgeous. I dream that one day he could get everyone together again- Marc Almond, Antony, Will Oldham, everybody- and perform the whole album live. That would be a gig I could quite happily die after seeing. Fuck, I'd pay anything, up to and including one or more limbs, to see that.
 
 
Not in the Face
13:09 / 18.09.06
I bought it largely off the interview on Wired and this thread. Its absolutely gorgeous album, perfect for back listening at work or walking or for sitting at home concentrating on what has been said.

I think the only weakness is that sometimes Tibet comes across as strained, almost desperate in his haste to spit the words out and convey a sense of frenzy and import, but even that varies on listening. At other times I think the same approach hits the right notes to convey the vision of the end of the world. The most interesting part was the hymns and the different styles and takes on them that
the artists have.

I know this has been rated as one of the best albums but what other ones would anyone recommend and why? Perhaps as importantly what are the weakest albums and are they weak in a 'this is shit' way or in a 'this is great just not as great' way.

Actually just being reminded of the album means I'll have to go and listen to it again which I think is the mark of a great piece of music.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
08:47 / 19.09.06
If you liked the quieter Tibet moments on this album, "Of Ruine Or Some Blazing Star" is probably a good fit for you. It's got the "dark folk" in spades but without as much Tibet excess as a lot of other Current 93 albums.

"Imperium" is probably my personal favourite, but it's hysterically overwrought at times. I like that, but a lot of people find it really hard to take.

If you want an amazing audio experience, getting the Current 93 and Nurse with Wound versions of "Thunder Perfect Mind" and settling in for a headphone night is guaranteed to be an experience you won't forget.
 
 
Totem Polish
11:52 / 19.09.06
Do you mean as in playing at the same time or one after the other? What order would you recommend?
 
 
Totem Polish
12:14 / 19.09.06
As for Black Ships I'm yet to be convinced, although no-one can deliver a line like Then Kill Caesar like Tibet and the production is amazingly loud thanks to the guys from Om, the album somehow lacks cohesion of Thunder Perfect Mind for me. There are just so many ideas being thrown at each other all at once and some of the versions of IDUMAEA are a bit extraneous, like the Pantleimon and Cosey ones.

I guess I find it bleak, really bleak, where other Current 93 releases make a virtue of transforming their darkness into a transcendent light this one sort of fades to grey for me...Its bombast being somewhat unseemly, as if Tibet is caricaturing himself as one of 'those apocalyptic folk', rather than just being himself.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
12:30 / 19.09.06
playing at the same time

If you could arrange it, that'd probably be really cool. But I meant more one after the other, with C93 first and NWW second.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
18:27 / 22.11.06
Interestingly, according to the latest Durtro mailout, among Mr Tibet's current favourite music is Mayhem's De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas.

Black metal will get you all in the end, my friends, even the psychedelic folk types among you...
 
 
lord nuneaton savage
20:37 / 22.11.06
What about the Black Metallers who were gotten by Psych Folk then? It happens in that order too.

Heard 'Black Ships' for the first time t'other day. Was rather blown away. Might have to invest.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:42 / 22.11.06
What about the Black Metallers who were gotten by Psych Folk then? It happens in that order too.

Oh, of course. It just seemed weird somehow going the other way around.

I'm guessing he may have been borrowing records from soon-to-be-collaborators-Sunn0))). (Attila Csahar's on his list too...)
 
 
lord nuneaton savage
20:43 / 22.11.06
Lock up the goats!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
23:20 / 21.04.08
Hoo boy. Just saw C93 at the Queen Elizabeth Hall. They had Baby Dee, they had Marc Almond, they had... they had ANDREW WK ON BASS!!! Which was odd, but sounded awesome.

They had a drummer! They did a bunch of the Black Ships stuff, but in a really post-rock, Dirty Three meets Godspeed kind of way. It was... pretty fucking intense, actually.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
23:51 / 21.04.08
Me too; it was Godspeed! You Black Starry Imperium all over. Wow.

And then there's the "Black Ships Heat The Dancefloor" remix single. Foetus does something brutal and industrial with Tibet's voice shoved through a metallic filter, which is perfectly nice (and way better than the Crowleymass dancetastic single, which was like yer dad dancing at the school disco).

But then there's the Matmos remix. It's garage, US style, complete with "whoos" and a funky breakdown going on while Tibet screams "Who will deliver me from myself!?" in an increasingly intense manner as a string section kicks in, Donna Summer style and the handclaps go crazy to the groove. Those Matmos dudes are so fucked up. It's great. Now when can I play this out?

Their remix of "The Beautiful Dancing Dust" with Antony on vocals is much mellow and downtempo in its shuffling cut-up grooviness. Not as silly, but very pleasant.
 
 
+#'s, - names
19:11 / 24.04.08
I used to go to the coffee shop in Cleveland that Baby Dee hangs out it. It was pretty weird to see Current 93s harp player just chillin.
 
 
COG
21:03 / 24.04.08
I've just downloaded the 2 free tracks form The Wire and I'm loving Then Kill Caeser. His voice oscillates around being agitated and sickly. I imagine him feverish in bed occasionally lurching upright to shout a dream premonition whilst staring wildly around.

"I was awake dreaming of nudist opias to run to". This is how I hear the first line each time, and now I have passed the mis-hearing on to you.
 
  
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