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Good news! Homosexuality is not a disorder!

 
 
Slim
05:48 / 29.06.06
Fantastic news, everyone!

Link

The Pentagon no longer deems homosexuality a mental disorder, officials said on Wednesday, although the reversal has no impact on U.S. policy prohibiting openly gay people from serving in the military.

I'm sure that many posters on this board will be relieved to find out that they are in fact not mentally ill. I congratulate you all on your recent sanity and welcome you back with open arms.
 
 
Slim
05:54 / 29.06.06
Also, while there is no word on it yet, many of us are eagerly anticipating the Pentagon's thoughts on the theory of evolution.
 
 
*
06:14 / 29.06.06
No! I was applying for disability benefits! DAMN YOU, 20th CENTURY!
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
06:56 / 29.06.06
You mean have to come up with another reason to be wearing this straitjacket all the time? Damn.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
07:58 / 29.06.06
No, no. You can still do that. It just has to be in a sexy way now.
 
 
sleazenation
08:08 / 29.06.06
Also, while there is no word on it yet, many of us are eagerly anticipating the Pentagon's thoughts on the theory of evolution.

I'd probably wait on that until we've had a definitive word from them on the vexed issues of Heliocentricism and whether or not the Earth is flat...
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
13:39 / 29.06.06
Yay! I want to send the Pentagon some flowers to thank them for this. What bouquet do you think says 'Congratulations on getting your head out of your arse you vile mechanised killing machine'? Tulips?
 
 
Sniv
13:51 / 29.06.06
No, no. You can still do that. It just has to be in a sexy way now.

What, like Queer Eye for the Straight Jacket?
 
 
MintyFresh
14:01 / 29.06.06
Well that's good news, isn't it? Means the mummies and daddies can't have their gay kiddies shipped off to mental hospitals against their will. Imagine if you had to undergo shock therapy because you were gay.
 
 
Ticker
14:05 / 29.06.06
After this announcement I was curious about the status on the ban on gays in the U.S. military and found some interesting links.

Race and Sexual Orientation in the U.S. Military

Don't ask, Don't Tell Revisted
 
 
Ex
14:50 / 29.06.06
Pale Chick - wasn't sure if that was optimism or sarcasm, so just in case: the Pentagon decision won't (as far as I know) have much impact on wider definitions of homosexuality as mental disorder/not, and thus people being shipped off and therapy'd.

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV) is more influential - it's the main diagnostic tool for mental health professionals in the US. Homosexuality isn't listed as a disorder in DSM-IV any more. Although if I remember correctly, 'distonic' homosexuality is - really roughly, if you're deeply unhappy with your sexual identity as homosexual, then your attractions may still count as a disorder. (I'm not happy about that - it seems to ignore a lot of cultural pressures - but I'm not a physician using the manual as a diagnostic tool and may be wildly misinterpreting).

And I think gender disphoria is in DSM-IV too.

Makes me wonder if MI5 still thinks being gay is a blackmail risk. I can remember someone digging into it and finding that they didn't really mind what you were/did as long as you didn't mind everyone knowing about it. But cannot for life of me remember where I got that info.
 
 
dubmick
15:00 / 29.06.06
and this is good news?

I'm joking
 
 
*
16:38 / 29.06.06
Barbelith: "We don't care if you're joking."
 
 
Ganesh
20:21 / 29.06.06
Although if I remember correctly, 'distonic' homosexuality is - really roughly, if you're deeply unhappy with your sexual identity as homosexual, then your attractions may still count as a disorder.

From memory (and I'm not nearly as familiar with DSM as with ICD classifications), ego-dystonic homosexuality was a feature of DSM-III-R but was dropped from the subsequent DSM-IV. There's a sort of rag-bag category called something along the lines of Sexual Disorder Not Otherwise Specified into which distress-at-one's-sexuality might be crowbarred, at a push. Even there, it's the distress that's considered worthy of treatment rather than the orientation itself - but I daresay it could be interpreted in a malign way by those with a particular agenda. I've never ever seen anyone present with anything like ego-dystonic homosexuality, in all the years I've been a psychiatrist, but I'm aware that the situation might well be different in the US.
 
 
Dead Megatron
20:24 / 29.06.06
"Unless the joke is on people we don't like. Like, say, the military"
 
 
Dead Megatron
20:25 / 29.06.06
The post above referencing entity's post, of course.

And, yes, I am joking also.
 
 
*
22:02 / 29.06.06
I cordially invite the two of you to continue the discussion of the true meaning of Barbelith's unofficial watchword "We don't care if you were joking" in another thread which I've just started for the purpose.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
03:30 / 30.06.06
Another "mental illness" dropped between DSM-III and DSM-IV was "Passive Agressive Disorder." What we think of as a mental illness is mutable, simply because the opinions of what people consider normal behavior is mutable.

Of course, the military has been at the hindmost of social change since the 50's after Truman integrated the service and gave the Republicans keys to the country for the next ten years.
 
 
Ex
06:46 / 30.06.06
Thanks for that, Ganesh - I heard about it when looking into the campaigns to de-classify homosexuality and wasn't sure what the implications were.
 
  
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