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MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
15:53 / 28.06.06
I started trying to take up Go about six months ago and frankly, I suck. On ice. I am a stinky Go player, partly because it's hard to find other rank amateurs to play against that are convivial Go-playing partners. I've tried Yahoo! and KGS Go servers, and the KGS ones are kinda all right, but both are full of opponents that are silent and rather robotic. I don't mind getting trounced, it's a great way to learn, but getting trounced by somebody who won't even chat a bit (to be fair, it's an international game with a huge non-English playing community -- I'm not saying these are mean or unfriendly people, just non-communicative for probably in most cases very good reasons) is demoralizing.

So... if any 'lithers have an interest in the game, post here or PM me. I'd like to get into a rhythm of playing 2-3 games a week, and if there were a few of us we could get a loose schedule going.

I love the game, I just can't seem to wrap my head around it. 99% of the people that play it seem to be math/engineering/comp-sci types, whereas I'm a befuddled artsy... but I'd still like to learn. Being silently systematically destroyed by superior players is dampening my enthusiasm... hence this post.

I'm somewhere around 25-kyu right now: I know the rules of the game, basic stuff like eyes and atari, but "seeing" more than one move ahead is entirely beyond me. I'm stabbing at GoProblems from time to time, but again, human interaction is my most effective learning method.

Any interest?
 
 
Proinsias
16:55 / 28.06.06
I've been through the interactive tutorial at Playgo a couple of times and never managed an actual game. At the end of the tutorial you reach the dizzy heights of 35kyo, although I'm skeptical I can be ranked without ever playing. I've been meaning to play for a year or two but never got round to it.

If you don't mind more teaching than being taught I'd be up for some humiliating defeats.
 
 
gridley
18:03 / 28.06.06
I play a little Go and would be interested in playing on a semi-regular basis. I'm not good, but I usually enjoy it even when I lose.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
19:11 / 28.06.06
This is exactly what I'm looking for... some people who want to play for fun and learn as they go. I'm certainly in no position to "teach," but mutual blundering could be beneficial to all concerned.
 
 
Ticker
17:10 / 30.06.06
Count me in. Ever since I read Shibumi I've been trying to play Go and yeah I too am terrible. But I like it a lot.
 
 
gridley
17:54 / 30.06.06
Heh... "Shibumi" is such a good novel. Definitely must reading for anyone interested in Go.
 
 
Crux Is This City's Protector.
19:48 / 30.06.06
I tried to learn some time ago and failed, for just that reason. I got the rules down, but had no play buddies, and memorizing endless patterns from books has zero appeal to me. I'd like to play some utter novices like meself.
 
 
Ticker
00:49 / 03.07.06
ok...now how do we hook up to play?

yes Shibumi is a must read...there really is no excuse in the world not to be madly in love with M. Hel.
 
 
Ticker
01:09 / 03.07.06
..also I started a thread on Shibumi if anyone else needs to rave about it.
 
 
The Strobe
09:10 / 03.07.06
I'd be interested in playing a little - I do have a Mac, so I'd need something that has a cross-platform client.

I played a little Go at University - and I mean a little. I can cope with 9x9 games alright. I find the larger board scary. What I discovered was that with the large board, you start out playing quite randomly as a beginner, and it's only in the mid-end game you suddenly realise what all the opening-stuff you did has done to the board. The pattern-recognition kicks in late.

But yeah, I enjoy this kind of stuff, and would happily play a game or two a week.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
16:02 / 03.07.06
Well, I'll start PMing later this week and we'll start figuring all this out. My big initial hurdle is that I'm EST in Canada, which is GMT-5, so I'm getting home from work juuuust when most of y'all are probably going to bed. But don't wait on me, neither.

I can also play at lunch -- 5 p.m. your time.
 
 
Ticker
23:28 / 03.07.06
I'm EST in New Hampshire US.
 
 
gridley
00:17 / 04.07.06
I'm EST as well.
 
 
Baz Auckland
02:13 / 04.07.06
I've wanted to play go ever since I read Hikaru No Go, a Japanese comic book about go players...

I also reccomend "The Master of Go" by Yasunari Kawabata. The whole book is just about 6-month long championship game played in Japan in the early 20th century...

I've only played so far on a 9x9 board, but I think I'm learning the basics. It's seems so hard to play it well! I've been playing using this program: Igowin

I would love to join you guys, but I don't know about the timing. (I'm GMT+9)

What programs do you use to play online?.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
08:44 / 04.07.06
Igowin is a great learning tool. I still can't beat it.

For computer play, I've had GnuGo recommended to me a billion times... one popular interface and the GnuGo program can both be found on this page.

On the Internet, I've played against a few people and a couple of bots at KGS. My account name is "mattshep". It comes with its own little interface program, CGoban2, that runs using Java.

I tried playing with a Go club (six engineering students, really) here in town, but the location and time really weren't good for me. But one thing that got drilled into my head by everybody... EVERYBODY... is that learning to play by playing even very good software is a bad idea. I get the impression that it's like trying to become a tennis pro by playing against a lot of ball-launching machines... you might get very good at running around and hitting balls, but there's a breadth/depth to the game that only humans can provide.

For those of us in EST (or who can figure out a good way to coordinate non-EST times), maybe we can just set an informal time to meet in the "Beginner's Room" on KGS or one of the club rooms?

GMT+9 is 13 hours different than the ESTers, which may actually not be a bad thing if you're a student or don't work mornings... our 6 p.m. meet time would be breakfast-coffee-and-Go time for you, for instance.

I have a feeling I might be about 5% more experienced than some of the people posting in this thread, but nothing that three or four games won't catch people up to.
 
 
Crux Is This City's Protector.
19:44 / 05.07.06
Matt, a 6pm EST Beginner's Room meet would work for me. Though -- for those of us with a commute, maybe we could push it back to 6:30?

In any case -- I think, honestly, what might be the most instructive is, aside even from playing a match with one of my superiors here, simply watching a heavily-narrated game; really being walked through what's happening. Maybe we could get some public exhibition-type stuff going. I'm registering username 'crux' on the IGS.
 
 
sTe
17:31 / 11.07.06
I think Go is great I sort of learned how to play few years back when I bought a board for a now ex-partner on a whim. They weren't too keen to play more than once nor were any of my friends. I had a brief stint on website (think it was Panda go or something) where I was soundly beaten several times and too impatient to learn.

Noticed this thread the other day and have been playing against that fine igowin program for the last 2 days! Am still far too impatient but getting slightly better. Cannot beat the computer on 12 kyu yet (how far has anyone else been getting?)

Just logged in as a guest on KGS and was once again given a proper hammering by about 40 on a 9x9 board, but my enthusiasm is back at least I had a few points! Have now registered under the original name of GosTe and am keen to play any lithers who fancy it. Have you had any luck organising a suitable logging in time yet?
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
17:47 / 12.07.06
Sorry -- life's kind of knocked me on my arse for the last week and probably for the rest of this one. Still keen, though!
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
17:48 / 01.01.09
So I've officially taken up Go, and find that I suck sour frog ass. I've downloaded a Goban program, and although I hear that computers suck at Go I find that I suck worse. I win maybe 1 out of 10 (with no handicap) on a 9x9 board (too scared to go much bigger).

Anyone still playing? I could benefit from a learning but competitive atmosphere.
 
 
wicker woman
19:28 / 01.01.09
I may take it up, but in all likelihood will suck sour dead frog ass. I'll let you know.
 
  
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