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Ganesh
02:07 / 18.06.06
What should one wear for a (male) same-sex ceremony? We've decided to go for the civil partnership option. We don't view it as a 'wedding' and we haven't told our parents we're doing it. We want to give it a certain degree of gravitas, though, and have been thinking about either going for bespoke suits or going for kiltiness. Kiltiness seems the better option, frankly, as it's fairly adjustable (we're both fat bastards) and is always good for formal events, if you're even vaguely Scottish.

Anyway, the ceremony's August and we're still a bit up in the air. Barbeloids: if you were having an important same-sex ceremony roughly equivalent to marriage, what would you wear?
 
 
Jack Fear
13:52 / 19.06.06
First off, congratulations and best wishes for what I'm sure will be a joyous occasion.

Secondly: KILTS! for God's sake, kilts! My only regret about my own wedding (lo these many years ago) is that I pussied out and didn't wear a kilt myself. But you, my friends, you... You are living the dream.

Let me put it another way: If you can wear a kilt, then why in God's name wouldn't you?
 
 
Shrug
16:21 / 19.06.06
What would I wear?
Never having been too comfortable in suits/overly formal attire, I think I'd wear a nice shirt and pair of pants. I've never worn a kilt but I can't imagine it being too staid or stuffy so it sounds like a good choice. Are rings and suchlike being exchanged?
Oh, happy for you both, obviously.
 
 
lekvar
21:45 / 19.06.06
I'm in the U.S. where such things are a novely rather than a traditional garb, but I'd have to go with the kilt option. I've seen some pics of some lovely outfits. Barring that, I'd go with matching pinstripe suits, as sharp as possible.
 
 
*
22:29 / 19.06.06
My vote is also to go the whole nine yards. Congratulamations, by the by.
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
14:34 / 20.06.06
I don't know the weather where you are, but kilts in August sounds like a good idea if you are going to be outside in the summer heat.
 
 
Sax
13:23 / 23.06.06
But no knickers, mind! Yes, I too vote for kilts, especially if I can see pictures afterwards.

And congratulations. Are you actually keeping it secret from the families, or just not inviting them?

On a related note, I've been invited to a wedding (barely) in Scotland in July (it's north of Berwick, although the groom is from Glasgow) and there's been a request for gentlemen guests to wear kilts. Can below-average-height Sassenachs, even ones as dazzlingly handsome as myself, ever get away with wearing a kilt and not looking just plain wrong?
 
 
Tabitha Tickletooth
17:17 / 24.06.06
Well woo-hoo to you two. Difficult question, though, because I think that any consideration of what you might wear would be inextricably linked to your reasons for having a ceremony of this kind. I've always felt this way about any kind of partnership ceremony - some people enjoy indulging (or inverting) a kind of 'perfect moment' look while others want to use this as an opportunity to say something about themselves and their relationship. I suppose my feeling would be 'what says what you want to say or how you feel'. If kilts do that, all the better.
 
 
grant
01:35 / 25.06.06
In August? As little as possible, that's what I'd wear.

Hmm. If you're not viewing it as a "wedding," then it's hard to think how formal you'd like to make it.

Oh hell, I'm only saying these things in a vain attempt to keep off the kilt bandwagon. Vain! It's a special freakin' occasion, wear the most special clothes you damn well can, and have a blast. Dirk, sporran and sash! A thistle boutonniere!
 
 
grant
01:52 / 25.06.06
Oh, and Sax, a quick recon around Google tells me there's branch of a sept of the clan that wears this tartan that bears your last name, although the very bottom of this page leads to something more like this.

Courage gains strength from a wound.
 
 
Ganesh
08:59 / 25.06.06
Cheers, folks. Having thought about it a little more, we decided that yes, it's no contest. Kilts are more occasiony, and always feel more dressed up, whereas however nice a suit is, it's a nice suit and something one might conceivably wear to work. And, as I say, we need something that can expand up and down.

Having thought about the various options, we discovered Austin Reed in Regent Street does a limited range, which would save us the time and money of travelling back up to Edinburgh for this. Chose the tartan yesterday - a nice purply-blue colour with a very fine white weave. We've ordered the basic kilt and dress outfits, and I'm going to buy the various trimmings (sporran, belt, socks, flashes, sgian dubh, etc.) online.

Sax:

Are you actually keeping it secret from the families, or just not inviting them?

Keeping it secret, until after the event. There's no idea way of managing the situation, but we reeeally want to keep it small and for us, essentially, rather than for family. We'll eventually have a separate event up in Edinburgh specifically for parents and siblings, and a small number of good Edinburgh friends; probably a big meal in a nice restaurant.

On a related note, I've been invited to a wedding (barely) in Scotland in July (it's north of Berwick, although the groom is from Glasgow) and there's been a request for gentlemen guests to wear kilts. Can below-average-height Sassenachs, even ones as dazzlingly handsome as myself, ever get away with wearing a kilt and not looking just plain wrong?

Abso-fucking-lutely. Don't buy into all the precious "ooh, only Scotsmen are entitled to wear a kilt" bollocks. And remember, these things were developed in Scotland, home of squat, stocky men with podgy legs; they're designed to flatter the, erm, less-than-willowy male. G'wan. You passed on the leather trousers, Sax, but you can do this!
 
 
Mourne Kransky
19:35 / 25.06.06
You will look lovely in a kilt, MacSax! My ancestors were bred for mining underground, so kilts are perfect for the compact Adonis.

Big problem I had was realising, when they measured me up for my fabulous new purply kilt, that my waist was a whole foot bigger than it was when I bought my last kilt a decade or so ago.
 
 
Ticker
19:30 / 27.06.06
Congrats!

YAY FOR KILTS!

My dad was feeling very uncomfortable about his appearance before my wedding last fall because he'd been on a course of steroids for a gut ailment. Once he got into his full dress kilt he knew he looked great. While he was waiting in ceremony location in a local park, a tiny scottish lady appeared and ushered him into her nearby house for 'adjustments'. My brother-in-law got a utilikilt for the occassion and I think there were at least 10 kilts there in total. I lent my great kilt to one of the groom's men and he had the best time (the sword helped).
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
16:19 / 28.06.06
We will, of course, demand pictures.
 
 
Ganesh
18:10 / 28.06.06
We will, of course, refuse.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
19:31 / 06.07.06
OK, two weeks after ordering up the full Highland kebab in a heathery tartan from a big wedding wear supplier, they still havern't made the promised phone call with details we asked them for (one being, crucially, price).

So, last night we had a splendid encounter with a strange kilt fetishist who runs a business out of a tiny bunker near to where we live - found him on the internet and he seems, so to speak, to know his onions. So we're now having absolutely fabulous Ancient Douglas bespoke kilts made with all the necessary accessories for civil partnership gorgeosity.

The Something Blue on the day will be the filthy kilt lust that is sewn into every seam by our charming craftsman. And Ganesh has told the major chain to take a hike. So, full speed ahead for when we return from the premature honeymoon to partner ourselves up!
 
 
Jack Fear
21:08 / 06.07.06


Oh, that is nice. Mazel tov!
 
 
Ganesh
21:52 / 06.07.06
That's the beast!

Going to select tartans and get measured was almost Dickensian: anonymous doorway in a slightly down-at-heel area round the corner from a pub; 'RING BOTTOM BELL, WE ARE IN' note on the door; scarily polite 60something Gentleman Of Indetermine (But Probably Fetishistic) Sexuality showing us oodles of samples in the tiny hallway; glimpses of a chaotic back workshop where a goblin toiled, Rumpelstiltskin-like, in the shadows...

Much more atmospheric than Austin Reed.
 
 
Ticker
15:38 / 07.07.06
That sounds like an amazingly fun way to get such an important item!
 
 
grant
01:52 / 12.07.06
That sounds more than fun. Gorgeous. Legendary.

Awesome!
 
 
Olulabelle
07:47 / 12.07.06
Kilts! Kilts! Kilts!

Especially from the place you are describing. Oh how excellent. If you are refusing to post pictures I think you should post bottom half pictures. Then we can all play 'guess the leg.'
 
 
Ganesh
20:23 / 12.07.06
Heh. I'm sure we'll work something out...
 
 
Dead Megatron
19:15 / 18.07.06
Arriving late for this talk (this forum not much of a hang-out place for me), but I'll second pretty much evr'one here and say: go kilt!!!

Let me put it another way: If you can wear a kilt, then why in God's name wouldn't you?

Yeah, I'd totally wear kilt in my every day life if such garment were "socially acceptable" in my turf.

Anyways, congrats for you guys, and I'll be wanting to see some pics of the cerimony. Oh wait, you already refused. Bummer...
 
 
Ganesh
23:52 / 07.08.06
We have had an absolutely gorgeous day, a day which made me intensely aware of how privileged we both are in terms of being in a position to focus on the things we ;love about weddings (dressing up, good food, good alcohol, good company) and disregard the rest. Our witnesses witnessed impeccably; we had a fabulous time at fabulous venues; family didn't get a look-in...

Aaanyway, we picked up the kilts on Friday (long anecdote) and they felt wonderful. Had our photos taken twice, in Central London, and everyone seemed to respond well to a touch of ridiculous overdressing. Here's a shot towards the end of the evening, when everything started to sag...

 
 
Ganesh
00:11 / 08.08.06
My sporran has drifted south, making it look like I have a four-months-pregnant dewlap. As with 'real' bow-ties, sporrans require adjustment throughout the evening...
 
 
Jack Fear
10:55 / 08.08.06
Oh, that is lovely. I'm digging the square buttons on the jackets and waistcoats. And the color of the kilts is gorgeously vibrant. Brings out your eyes, don'cha know. (In fact, in brings them out of the frame...)

Anyway: many happy returns on your blessed event! God save your union and all who sail in her!
 
 
*
08:29 / 09.08.06
Aw. I'm all misty-eyed.
 
 
Triplets
09:19 / 09.08.06
Big fat gay parsnip! Yay!
 
 
grant
13:44 / 09.08.06
making it look like I have a four-months-pregnant dewlap.

Can I make a shotgun/"name it after me" joke? Pleeease?
 
 
Dead Megatron
19:26 / 10.08.06
Oh, no! My workplace computer will not open the picture of the happy couple. Damnit, I want to see the kilt fashion of lûûûv...

Anyway, congratulation for you guys, may your union bear plentiful juicy fruits in every season from here on ever...

I'll try again at home...
 
 
Ganesh
19:41 / 10.08.06
My workplace computer will not open the picture of the happy couple.

It's probably not worksafe. Our kilts are raised and we're waving our sizeable members at all and sundry. I have a garter on mine.
 
 
grant
20:33 / 10.08.06
I thought that was a caber....
 
 
Ganesh
20:56 / 10.08.06
I wasn't tossing it at that point.
 
 
Dead Megatron
22:03 / 10.08.06
It's probably not worksafe. Our kilts are raised and we're waving our sizeable members at all and sundry. I have a garter on mine.

Ok, now I'm curious!!! Gotta get home, FAST!!!

And, as for being worksafe, I don't really care. I've been kinda trying to get myself fired for a couple of months now. I'm doing it mostly by procrastinating compulsively, but to be fired for that would be a lot more fun...
 
 
Dead Megatron
22:58 / 10.08.06
[At home]

Ah, now I see it!!! Really cool outfit. I really like the buttons of the jackets.

Ganesh, I'm guessing you're the one on the left, am I right?

Anyway, much joy!
 
  

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