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John Constantine: Where To Tread?

 
 
Tim Tempest
22:30 / 13.06.06
Hello Everyone. I have been wanting to get into Hellblazer for quite some time now, but picking up the trades has always seemed a bit daunting, due to the numerous issues left uncollected, and the hit-or-miss nature of the writing/art I seem to hear of. So I started this new thread, and it's sole purpose is clarify which trades are worth picking up, and why.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
05:59 / 14.06.06
Well, it depends what you like. My impression is that Garth Ennis' original run is considered pretty damn definitive while his brief return several years later ('Son of Man'?) is supposedly horrifically bad. I'm not sure whether all of Ennis' original run has been released in trades yet though. I think there is a trade of Ellis' stories, or at least some of them, they seemed rather workmanlike (John gets beaten up by bad men, he then turns the table on them and has them die in a very icky way). You might like Azzarello's run, starting with John in an American prison, and then he travels across America in a vaguely similar way to Swamp Thing in the 'American Gothic' arc, I tried the first few trades and although well written they just didn't do anything for me, I felt they were stories that Azzarello was being forced to fit John Constantine in, when someone else might have made a better fit.

Of the post-Azzarello stuff I've only so far read 'Red Sepulchre' which, again, I thought was okay. There seems to be an ideas deficit when it comes to Constantine, probably because he doesn't have much by way of a supporting cast apart from Chas, and Ennis did the storyline about them breaking up for a bit, so that's that.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
07:28 / 14.06.06
Dangerous Habits trade is pretty much da bomb.
 
 
sleazenation
07:40 / 14.06.06
I actually like Original Sins - but it does sort of stop abruptly in the middle of a storyline the rest of which is reprinted in a swamp thing trade...
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
11:57 / 14.06.06
I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Hellblazer, but it has a patchy history. The first thing you need to know is that Constantine is an Alan Moore character, one of the supporting cast of Swamp Thing, and that's where you will find his original adventures. I don't know what trades they are in, or even if much of it is in print at the moment.

He proved a popular anti-hero character and was given his own spin-off comic, written by Jamie Delano. There are some absolutely cracking Delano stories, most of which I don't think have been collected. But as I remember, there was an awful lot of moping around the countryside with hippy communes and a lot of fairly drawn-out mid-life crisis stuff towards the end of the run which started to grate a bit.

Garth Ennis took over and reinvented the comic and developed the character in a completely different direction. His run on Hellblazer is basically the prototype for what Ennis would later do with Preacher. If you liked Preacher, you will probably like his take on Hellblazer. If you hated Preacher, you probably won't like what he does here either. They are very similar in tone and style. I'd start with Ennis's first storyline, which I think is collected as "Dangerous Habits". If you like that, you will probably enjoy reading the full Ennis run, then you can backtrack and read whatever Delano stuff is still in print, which is probably just "Original Sins" sadly.

For me, it got lost in no mans land for ages after Ennis left, with a series of writers who didn't really grasp the character and how he is best used as a device for telling interesting stories. I couldn't get into the Azarello run at all, as has been noted, Constantine seemed inconsequential to the stories he was telling and he didn't really seem to have a handle on the essential... Englishness... that is really important to tellling stories with Constantine.

Warren Ellis did a short run, but as mentioned above, it was so workmanlike and pedestrian that it came across a bit pointless and phoned-in. Heard it all before. Constantine by numbers. No heart or passion behind it, both of which, for me are important factors in a good Constantine story well-told.

Mike Carey was next up, and I really liked what I've read of his run on it. Most of it is available in trades. He really seems to get what the character is about and use him in a constructive and interesting way. The ones I've read have been a lot of fun.

So if I were you, I'd start with Garth Ennis's run in sequence, then if you want more, jump ahead to Mike Carey's run and read that. Track down any of Moore's Swamp Thing or Delano's run that are in print.
 
 
sleazenation
12:03 / 14.06.06
I think Ennis' run on Hellblazer is far more interesting than his work on Preacher, so I'd say don't be put off if you weren't really into Jesse Custer...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
12:20 / 14.06.06
I'm probably gonna get a kicking from various people for saying this, but I think Ennis's run on Hellblazer is horribly overrated. I mean, I like it, it's fun and everything... but it's just not very scary. That's clearly not the only thing a Hellblazer story should be, but it's what I tend to look for. I mean, I loved Preacher (with reservations) but that kind of treatment just didn't really work so well with JC for me. Some of it's great- Dangerous Habits is indeed excellent, and there are other really cool bits and pieces, but I think it took the character a little too far away from the Moore version, whereas Delano just expanded on it. It took an awfully long time to get back.

Some of Ellis's stuff was good, apart from Haunted, which was horribly derivative (well, okay, it was basically Derek Raymond's I Was Dora Suarez with some magic thrown in, at the detriment of the horror).

I loved Delano's run, which even now is only a little over-written. And I really enjoyed most of Carey's run, though I'm not such a fan of the more fantasy-oriented JC goes to hell stuff- possibly the problem I had with Ennis.

So far Denise Mina's been pretty damn good, too (leading me to check out one of her novels, The Field Of Blood, which was also excellent).

Personally I think they're pretty much all worth a read, but depending what you're looking for the quality varies.
 
 
Robert B
12:31 / 14.06.06
I'd start with Dangerous Habits and move from there. It was my first exposure to the character and was enough to get me interested to track down Delano's entire run plus the Grant Morrison two-parter (recently recollected I think) that comes between. Haven't read much recently but have been intrigued by the recent issues.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
12:33 / 14.06.06
Some of Delano's run was ace though wasn't it, I really liked the family man storyline and the one with the dogs in it. I'd agree that Ennis's version goes a bit too far into fantasy at the expense of the subtlety and characterisation that made the book interesting in the first place.
 
 
ghadis
12:49 / 14.06.06
My favourite Constatine stories have always been the short one or two issue pieces. I still rate Morrisons WickerManesque job. It seemed to capture the englishness that Gypsy mentions above and also tap into the 80s Thatcher horror that Delano also did well in his early run (The Beach etc) although i think it was actually released in the 90s i get the impression that Morrison had come up with the story a few years earlier.

Some other shorts of note are the McKean illustrated issue with the tramp and the great story about the diary that was drawn by David Lloyd. I think all these are collected into the Rare Cuts trade. This, sadly, doesn't have my favourite Hellblazer of all time in; the issue in the laundry written by John Smith and illustrated by Sean whatshisname. That issue is really scary. Far more so that Ennis tricking the devil and getting pissed on Guinness schtick that he managed to keep up for so long.
 
 
sleazenation
12:50 / 14.06.06
There was also that single issue story Delano wrote with Sean Philips on art at the end of Ennis's run... Yeah, it brilliantly played with the kind of dark, nasty character stuff that Ennis never really got into in his run...
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
13:03 / 14.06.06
Whatever you do, DO NOT pick up Son Of Man, which is Ennis doing Hellblazer several years after his initial run. It is atrocious.
 
 
Jake, Colossus of Clout
15:51 / 14.06.06
Yeah, Son of Man is terrible, terrible awful. What happened to Ennis, anyhow? I know he's not a fan favorite around here, but I thought he used to be pretty good during the 90's. Everything he's written since has been absolute garbage. It's like he turned the toilet humor up to eleven and shut the brains off. I liked his original Hellblazer run quite a bit, though. I would pick up Dangerous Habits, Fear and Loathing and Rake at the Gates of Hell for trades. Tainted Love is pretty good but unessential, and Damnation's Flame is the weakest of the bunch. I would take a pass on that one.

I hated Azzarello's run, with the exception of the Freezes Over trade, which was shockingly good, for Azz. On the whole, I thought his run was long on the mean-spirited aspect of Constantine and lacking the cleverness and irreverence of the character. But then, I loathe Azzarello, anyway, so if you've liked any of his other stuff you might like this, too.

Warren Ellis had exactly one good Hellblazer story, the one where John spins this whole David Icke conspiracy theory for a gullible researcher and scares the shit out of him. It's a funny one-shot issue. They traded it in Setting Sun, but just get the single issue (143, according to the trade).

I have the first Carey trade, Red Sepulchre, and it's pretty good. He gets back the magic back front and center, which is nice, but he brings back Gemma, John's niece as a SPUNKY TEENAGE MAGICIAN, which I needed like a hole in the head. I'll grab the next one before I pass judgment.

Oh, and Rare Cuts is totally worth getting. It has good stuff from Morrison, Ennis and Delano.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
16:53 / 14.06.06
There's a pretty good storyline with Gemma after Red Sepulchre, I think, with an island and some very nasty children. I like her presence mostly because it does flesh out something close to a supporting cast beyond Chas.

The Shadow Dog arc isn't bad either, although it felt like it was trying to be a big Vertigo crossover of doom like the old days but didn't quite fill out enough. if we're going with the Carey arcs, and the Stanley Wayne Manor is properly fun even if there's some dodgy interaction between two of the detectives dealing with "that there Constantine case."

But if you want a good Constantine story, you should probably also read the "Jack Carter" issue of Planetary. The story that Jakita tells about Carter back in 1987 is soooo prime, and with the Cassady artwork...
 
 
doyoufeelloved
17:04 / 14.06.06
If you only read one trade from the Azzarello run, make it GOOD INTENTIONS -- shouldn't be hard to find, but a new printing is coming out in a couple of weeks anyway. It's not like any other Hellblazer story -- it's very American -- but it is EXTREMELY disturbing and is much more coherent as a single volume than the rest of the Azzarello arc. And the art is just gorgeous, IIRC.

Otherwise, I really don't think you can go wrong with the Garth Ennis stuff, which I find to be honestly quite emotional. It's not scary, true, but it more than makes up for it with a nice feeling of "this is somebody's life happening" that grounds the character spectacularly well. And yeah, SON OF MAN is kind of retarded, but in a weirdly gleeful way, to me. The moment Constantine breaks the fourth wall you know Ennis was not interested in doing something at all similar to his previous run, and while it's not an improvement, I find it to be kind of entertaining in a Grand Guignol way.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
17:57 / 14.06.06
Yeah, Son of Man is terrible, terrible awful. What happened to Ennis, anyhow? I know he's not a fan favorite around here, but I thought he used to be pretty good during the 90's. Everything he's written since has been absolute garbage.
Not true, his Punisher series rocks pretty hard.
 
 
Janean Patience
18:11 / 14.06.06
I never liked Ennis's Constantine - too long on flash, too short on the psychological effect of all this dabbling in magic. I thought that Delano, not exactly a natural comics scribe, found something in John that got its hooks in and that neither writer or character have been as good since.

That said, the first trade has some good stories in but tails off, the whole Fear Machine storyline was a long-winded mistake (with good bits) and the best stuff's never been traded. The Family Man storyline is one of the best, with John Constantine who'll happily bluff demons in hell unexpectedly facing a human predator without the weapons or methods to do so. Unfortunately the issues suffer from dreadful, dreadful art. Ron Tiner from memory, and if you've never heard of him since it's obvious why. Visually awful, as an exploration of the character brilliant.

The four issues immediately following, with Sean Phillips art, are probably the high point of Delano's run. From a nasty little story about John's teenage rebellion cursing his father to tales of his present, past and future, the horror's never been more insidious and the protagonist never more of a bastard. After that it's downhill but Dave McKean's art in #40, extra-length, is a good finish for Delano. The story of Kid Constantine, Dead Boy's Heart, is in the Rare Cuts trade along with Delano's single issue return to the title explaining exactly why Chas is forever in his debt. Manages to be unpleasant and believable.

I'd also recommend, though it's untraded, the two-issue miniseries The Horrorist from 1995 with David Lloyd providing painted art. It's Constantine at his nastiest and his most desperate, confronting a monster solely in order to get himself going again. Never acclaimed by anybody as far as I know, but great stuff. I still use a line from it now and again: "It was a bad night before the bomb..."
 
 
ghadis
19:37 / 14.06.06
In my dreams Stewart Home would be writing Hellblazer.
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
20:47 / 14.06.06
DC has not made it easy to get the best of Hellblazer. My personal recommendation (which is probably the most difficult among all recommendations here) is to pick up Original Sins, all subsequent Delano issues, and probably the two Veitch Swamp Thing trades that are available (as Constantine is fairly prominently featured and the two storylines are pretty intertwined). Delano is by no means perfect, but enough of his run nears perfection that I recommend it highly. He delved quite deeply into Constantine and developed him into a well-rounded character. As far as I'm concerned, every writer since has either only concentrated on a facet or two of the character or treated him like a hollow mouthpiece for their own agenda (I'm looking at you, Ellis).

Which is not to say that there isn't good stuff after Delano's run, because there is. It's just that I don't think it gets any better after Delano left. But I love the character enough and I'm a big enough sucker that I still buy it. Mina's run ain't bad so far (especially after being ultimately pretty disappointed with Carey's), but it's nothing to write home about, either.
 
 
Janean Patience
20:56 / 14.06.06
Constantine is one of the great characters of comics, possibly the best shared-universe character created in the last couple of decades.

When Morrison and Millar complained that no great characters had been created since Green Lantern (when they were coming up with Aztek. Didn't exactly work out, eh lads?) he was the one I first thought of. When he was still DC universe everyone wanted to include him, and a number of writers have used him successfully including Gaiman in Books of Magic and Millar at the end of his Swamp Thing run.

Surely Iain Sinclair deserves a shot at Constantin. Surely.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
23:47 / 14.06.06
Wow. I thought ghadis had hit the nail on the head with Home. But Sinclair would ruuuulle...

...and you'd be almost certainly guaranteed some cool McKean covers as well.
 
 
Jake, Colossus of Clout
05:08 / 15.06.06
Papers-you should probably also read the "Jack Carter" issue of Planetary. The story that Jakita tells about Carter back in 1987 is soooo prime, and with the Cassady artwork...

Yes, but then Ellis spoils it by having Carter/Constantine actually turn into Spider Jerusalem in the crassest moment of the entire series. He says something like "time to be someone else." Ellis trying to pass the Constantine torch to himself, in a disgusting moment of arrogance and self-importance. Yuck.

doyoufeelloved-If you only read one trade from the Azzarello run, make it GOOD INTENTIONS -- shouldn't be hard to find, but a new printing is coming out in a couple of weeks anyway. It's not like any other Hellblazer story -- it's very American -- but it is EXTREMELY disturbing and is much more coherent as a single volume than the rest of the Azzarello arc.

Jeez, I thought this was the worst of all the Azz arcs. Isn't that the one where

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those hillbillies drug John up and videotape him having sex with their dog? I thought that was the height of Azzarello's "look at me, I'm so confronting the dark side of human existence, here" idiocy. Ugh. Your mileage may vary, of course. The first issue was pretty good, though, where John gets picked up hitchhiking.

Jack, on Ennis past 1999-Not true, his Punisher series rocks pretty hard.

True. I've read the first two trades, and they were great ultraviolence fun. Selective memory, I suppose.

Wolf from the Door-Constantine is one of the great characters of comics, possibly the best shared-universe character created in the last couple of decades.

Yeah, I'd find it hard to argue that. I do have almost every trade, and I can even find something good in the ones I hate. Constantine is a very versatile character.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
15:08 / 15.06.06
Jake: Yes, but then Ellis spoils it by having Carter/Constantine actually turn into Spider Jerusalem in the crassest moment of the entire series. He says something like "time to be someone else." Ellis trying to pass the Constantine torch to himself, in a disgusting moment of arrogance and self-importance. Yuck.

Enh. I pretty much ignore the what happens after Jakita finishes the tale. The beginning of the issue is quite good, actually, with the funeral for Carter - Cassady has all these weird designs for a proto-Vertigo equivalent in the Wildstorm 'verse. Dorothy Spinner with an upside down face! Black Orchid and Swamp Thing as a singular, plural entity...and of course, the Carter tale itself, which is a short, sharp burst of Constantine. Afterward it gets dragged down into the meta-analysis of the deconstructionist era with Jack becoming Spider and the exposed intestines of a pseudo-Miracleman.

Jeez, I thought [Good Intentions] was the worst of all the Azz arcs.

I can't think of an Azz arc I liked particularly. Actually, Marcelo Fruisin does a pretty job with the pencils during his run and Carey's.

Actually, I like the Three Worlds arc, but I think that might be Carey. I'll need to drag out the comics. There's one where some guy Constantine knows trades souls during a poker game...

Hey, did Angie Spatchcock get away without anything really horrible happening to her in the end? I liked her.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
17:10 / 15.06.06
I defy anyone to say they didn't like '40'.
 
 
Jake, Colossus of Clout
17:24 / 15.06.06
I can't think of an Azz arc I liked particularly. Actually, Marcelo Fruisin does a pretty job with the pencils during his run and Carey's.

Azz is pretty terrible all around, really. While I do like Freezes Over to some extent, it still has Azzarello's irritating TEH DARKNESS IN MEN'S SOULS bullshit. Frusin's art is divine, though.

Angie Spatchcock... Didn't she get her face cut up with a razor, or was that someone else?
 
 
Jake, Colossus of Clout
17:29 / 15.06.06
I defy anyone to say they didn't like '40'.

That's my favorite Hellblazer story, ever. Also the one that got me into the comic.
 
 
Are Being Stolen By Bandits
19:43 / 15.06.06
Angie was attacked by a razor-wielding bloke during her first appearance, but got away fine to become a recurring supporting character during the rest of Carey's run. She was, as of her last appearance a few months ago, still very much alive.

Azzarello's run was pretty iffy, on the whole, although he did manage a few half-decent stories (despite having all the authentic 'Englishness' of Dick Van Dyke, his flashback-to-young-John-in-the-'70s story, 'Lapdogs and Englishmen', was a pretty nice little two-parter, marred only slightly by a pointless sub-plot which was originally intended to be continued later in Azzarello's run, but which was abandoned when his tenure was cut short). 'Good Intentions' is far from his best trade, though (probably my least favourite arc from his run, in fact, for reasons already touched upon in this thread), and I'd probably recommend 'Freezes Over' for anyone who wants to sample his Hellblazer. Not perfect, but an entertaining-enough little horror story, and one in which Azz's failure to actually grasp the essence of Constantine's character is less intrusive than for most of his other efforts.

I still reckon that Paul Jenkins' (post-Ennis) run on Hellblazer is underrated - it's definitely patchy, and ended very badly, but up until the final couple of arcs, he did a quite nice job of establishing Constantine in a refreshingly varied, England-centric supernatural universe. He did, however, fall back a bit too often on using the First Of The Fallen (bad guy from Ennis' run - the devil, basically) as a pantomime-esque nemesis, which got a bit boring. Still, he did some excellent short one- or two-issue stories (the tenth anniversary story, from #120, is particularly brilliant, and strongly recommended to anyone who's interested in the title), and the 'Critical Mass' arc is one of my favourite Hellblazer stories. The gorgeous, atmospheric and moody Sean Phillips art is another reason to like Jenkins' run, and it's a crying shame that none of it is available in trade.

Ennis' run began strongly, and 'Dangerous Habits' is still probably the best introduction to the character/title available in trade, but I find that, a few short stories aside, the second half of his run falls pretty flat. Still, 'Fear & Loathing' is worth picking up if only for the three single-issue stories which open the trade, including the already-mentioned 'Forty'.

Delano's run is still the best the title (and character, really) has ever had to offer, so, of course, it's mostly unavailable in trade. Bugger. The fact that the only trade of his run available, Original Sins, ends on a cliff-hanger just adds insult to injury, really. Still, almost anything from #1-40 is worth picking up if you can find it in the back issue bins.

Mike Carey's run was, on the whole, excellent, although I had a few reservations about the over-reliance on previous continuity, especially in the second half of the run. Still, my girlfriend read it with no prior experience of the title and really enjoyed it, so I'm probably overstating that a little. A couple of overly-hokey plot elements, which I won't mention here for reasons of spoilerage, also put me off slightly. It all came together pretty well in the end, though, and there are a couple of short stand-alone entries from the final stretch of his run which, for me, rank among the best Constantine stories ever told.

His run isn't yet completely available in trade, but it should be finished within the next year or so, at the current rate of publication. It's definitely one to read in the correct order, though - later stories from his run rely heavily on the reader already being familiar with what happened earlier. He did, however, write an entirely self-contained OGN, All His Engines (illustrated by current series artist Leonardo Manco, whose work on the monthly title is generally solid enough, but not in the same league as his excellent art in this book), which is about as classic, archetypal a Constantine tale as I can think of, as well as being a pretty nice little graphic novel in its own right.

As for Denise Mina (the current writer) - well, based on her excellent, grimy and atmospheric crime fiction (the Garnethill trilogy, in particular, is superb), I was hugely excited to hear that she would be taking over the title, and as yet I haven't been disappointed. Her first couple of issues suffered from some slightly awkward pacing, as one would expect from a novelist who's never written for comics before, but beyond that she seems to have gotten the hang of things very quickly indeed. There's a trade of her first arc (the 7-issue 'Empathy Is The Enemy') due later this year, and, assuming that the conclusion is as satisfying as the first 5 installments have been, it'll be well worth picking up.

To answer the original "which trades should I pick up?" question, I'd say that either Dangerous Habits, All His Engines, or Rare Cuts are probably the best starting points for a newcomer to the title. Beyond that, there's plenty of good advice in this thread regarding where to go next.
 
 
Tim Tempest
01:43 / 17.06.06
Thanks for all of the Constantine info thus far, homies.

New questions now:

I'm assuming that John is written slightly different by everyone, so I was just wondering what tendencies and traits are focused upon by each different writer. For example, does Azzarello make Constantine more of a Con-Man? Does Ennis play up the Magician bit? Who writes the most witty/clever/sarcastic John? Who writes the most believeable John? Who writes the worst John?

And, you've also mentioned that John has a very thin supporting cast. How do you feel about this? Is it a hindrance, or does it just make John more kickass, knowing that he's all alone in the big bad world?

And what's up with this "entourage of ghosts" that follow him around? Which trades have the stories of those characters? That could be an interesting little plot device...

But please, continue with the Constantalk.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
03:31 / 17.06.06
Odds: And, you've also mentioned that John has a very thin supporting cast. How do you feel about this? Is it a hindrance, or does it just make John more kickass, knowing that he's all alone in the big bad world?

Enh. One aspect of the deal that could be emphasized is that he doesn't have a "thin" supporting cast as much as a rotating one - in his time, Conjob has met a lot of people and fucked them over, or fucked them period, or fallen in with them, or made deals with them. Not just your big name villains, either - but people like Angie, or Chas. Chas is the big one, Robin to Conjob's Batman, and he is the core of the supporting cast.

Basically, anyone can show up again. The problem is that they die, because you know how that makes a story more "important" and such. And certainly with the horror aspect and the danger some of them have to die for the plot but the best stories balance the returning supporting cast and the death of same.

I dunno about others, but I like Gemma being around because she wants into John's life a bit but doesn't understand that this brings problems. And John doesn't seem to always understand that she has Constantine blood and hence a destiny along the lines of his, and he can't protect her. The whole family has bursting predispostions toward tricksterism, sharking, and occult nonsense.
 
  
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