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Grant Morrison Comic Book Scripts

 
 
andrewdrilon
07:58 / 13.06.06
Does anyone know if there are any Grant Morrison comic book scripts available online? I heard that there used to be one for his NewXmen 'Nuff Said issue available at the Marvel website but that little resource is somehow long dead and buried. The only one I can find right now is his Arkham Asylum script, and it's only available in the hardcover edition (with nifty annotations at that!)

I was hoping for a good peek into what his mainstream creative output looks like before it even reaches he artist. You know, what the comic looks like in PURE Morrison form. I mean, what do Grant scripts look like? The answer, gleaned off a couple of interviews and public statements, may be more varied than most people might think--

I read in a recent interview (I think it was Simone Bianchi) that Grant wrote the dialogue for each issue AFTER he recieved the final art (for Shining Knight, at least).

Versus his All-Star Superman process, of which Grant stated in an interview: "I write about 50 pages of material then 'supercompress' it down to 22 pages, like a lump of coal squeezed into diamond. "

Then his possible (or possibly hyperbolic) account of how his Arkham Asylum script "took a year to research and plan and was written in one fevered month in 1987, generally late at night and after long periods of no sleep" and "was laid out as a monstrous hybrid between the 'Full Script' comic book method and a movie screenplay."

Of The Filth, he says: "During the twelve months of actually writing The Filth scripts I was so overwhelmed by these 'dark' forces that I almost committed suicide on several occasions and spent most of the year in a state of intense psychological and physical distress." Given this, what the hell did these scripts look like?

There's a statement (somewhere out there) that he wrote a Doom Patrol issue (possibly the 'Hoffman's Bike' issue) on a couple of tabs of E. Frank Quitely stated in an interview that in his first teaming in ’96 on Flex Mentallo, Morrison challenged Quitely to visually define Primordial chaos manifesting itself around unseen proton cores. “I drew three big circles with squiggly lines,” he (said). “I challenged him to say that wasn’t what it looked like.”

Then, of course, there are his scripts of Invisibles (of which the peripheral accounts which were poured into them I'm sure we're all pretty familiar with by now), the only samples currently available are on his website, HERE and HERE. Oh and there's also Dan Fish's Lost and Found samples which he posted on his site.

I'm just really interested by Grant's creative process, as I'm sure a number of people here are, and I'm betting there's a lot we can learn about it from looking at his scripts. There are a good number of Alan Moore (and some Neil Gaiman) scripts floating around online, and in the spirit of fairness, I'm hoping Grant fans have a similar opportunity to study his work up close on the script level and learn from him as well. I'm sure they'd be helpful references to any number of aspiring comicbook writers here.

So anyway, do any of you guys have links or archives of Grant Scripts? If you do, please post them here, as they'd be much appreciated.
 
 
Mug Chum
10:16 / 13.06.06
Great shot for a thread. Always looked for Morrison's scripts on the net.

Wasn't the Special Edition of Arkham Asylum (or something like that) had something about Morrison's creative method for it (don't know if it's a script or what)? I was always surprised that I never found those pages around (I usually download the comic books I'll be buying when they arrive at my local retailer, in Brazil. So don't be mad for my 'piracy'...)

You say there are Alan Moore's scripts around as well? D'ya know where to find them?
 
 
Essential Dazzler
10:19 / 13.06.06
The Arkham Asylum script is included in the most recent paperback edition.
 
 
andrewdrilon
11:01 / 13.06.06
Lotsa Alan Moore scripts and script excerpts for "Nightjar", "The Killing Joke", "Big Numbers", "Watchmen" and more over at four color heroes, that would be HERE.

They're cool and all, but they're generally too verbose and difficult to read through because of too much exposition. I find his stuff hard to analyze specifically because of lenght. Alan Moore was pretty control-freaky about the images he asked from his artists, whereas if you look at what little we have of Grant's script samples, he tends to be more laid-back about it, letting the artist breath, putting only enough detail in the script for the artist to understand the story.

Of course, I could be wrong; as I've said, his scripting style is implied to differ per project. In Arkham Asylum for instance, Grant spends a lot of time sharing his story ideas to Dave McKean, rather than dictating every minute detail in a single specific image, as shown by this really verbose example (depicted and expanded by McKean on page 39 of the comic):

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Batman pushes the glass into his palm. His face creases with the flare of pain. ((This act deepens some of the ritual symbolism of the story. The recurring Fish motif--which relates to Pisces, the astrological attribution of the Moon card - also relates to Christ, who in turn can be linked to the Egyptian God Osiris, whose life and descent into the underworld parallels with the story of Amadeus Arkham. We also see later that the Asylum is built upon a Vescica Pisces - this symbol (...) forms the ground plan of much religious architecture and is used in the construction of most of the major buildings of antiquity, like Stonehenge and Avebury in England. It is a development of the Greek symbol for Christ (...). We also have the Clown Fish in our story, of course. Interestingly enough, while doing some research into folklore, I came across a book, published in the 16th century by a quack doctor Andrew Borde, called 'Merrie Tales of the Mad Men of Gotham'. The English village of Gotham in Nottinghamshire was famous for the antics of its fools and the three stories mentioned all contained some reference to images in our Arkham story. On one occasion, for instance, the Gotham villagers, upon seeing the reflection of the moon in a pool attempt to fish it out. In another story, they surround a bush with stakes in an attempt to catch a cuckoo. The third story tells of how an eel was eating all the fish in their pond. The villagers take the eel and throw it into another pond, leaving it to drown. Synchronicity is alive and well!

As a final interesting aside on the subject of fish, the Vescica Piscis symbol is a very basic representation of the holographic process in which intersecting circular wave patterns produce three dimensional images. Physicist David Bohm believes the hologram to be an analogy for his vision of a vast interconnecting universe, in which every part is in some sense a reflection of every other part. In a few pages time, the Mad Hatter will endeavour to outline Bohm's theories as applied to child molestation.

In the same way, everyhting in this story reflects and comments upon everything else.

What was I talking about anyway?

Yeah, so Batman is here inflicting upon himself one of Christ's wounds and it's all got something to do with fish, okay?


Maybe I've been doing this for too long.))

BATMAN: UH!

BATMAN: JESUS!


--

...and the script moves along again with one or two-liner descriptions of action, interspersed with dialogue. You'll notice that in this, what, 400-word segue, Grant outlines a ton of motifs and ideas in his work, David Bohm used in Animal Man and Invisibles and Doom Patrol, fish imagery and Vescica pisces again, in Invisibles and Doom Patrol, etcetera etcetera. Grant opens a glass panel on his head and shows the creative process bubbling in his brain. And all these wonderful little details aren't seen or made clear in the comicbook itself--that's all in the script! All these references and bits of intertextuality--makes you want to check out where he read them in the first place. You get a sense of the immense scope of thought and creativity Grant's pouring into the comic book, into that one little scene.

This is what I'm talking about when I say I want to see more Grant scripts. Aren't they fascinating?
 
 
Mario
11:13 / 13.06.06
There's a bit of the script for Here Comes Tomorrow in the NXM trade. And Marvel used to have the script for his Nuff Said NXM issue on the site... That should be recoverable via archive.org.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
11:28 / 13.06.06
Yeah, it's fun, although if the vescica pisces is a development of the chi-rho, how come it was the basis of Stonehenge, which was built a long time before Christ and probably a fair bit before the invention of the letters chi and rho? No points for any answer involving five-dimensional time squid.

Not online, but there might be Morrison scripts in the two "Page One" collections of celebrated comic strips, possibly. There's certainly at least one by Alan Alan Alan.
 
 
andrewdrilon
11:28 / 13.06.06
WOW, thanks Mario! I didn't even think to check there! Found it! Here it is, guys:

New X-men #121 script by Grant Morrison.
"Silence: Psychic Rescue in Progress"

 
 
andrewdrilon
11:56 / 13.06.06
Hey Haus. Maybe you mean the 'Panel One' books that came out a few years back--nope, no Grant scripts there. Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman were there though. rassum frassum.

Although there is a massive Grant Interview and script excerpts (plus thumbnails) in Mark Salisbury's book Writers on Comics Scriptwriting. I have a copy somewhere around here, I'll see if I can upload a scan sample. Better off buying the book, though.
 
 
electric monk
12:12 / 13.06.06
"...he posted on his site, which can be found over HERE."

andrewdrilon, I'm unsure about 'lith policy on linking but I'd guess that direct-download links (such as the above quoted "HERE") are frowned upon. I know I'm frowning. Please have the link modded or put in a bit of a warning for that link. Thanks.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:16 / 13.06.06
Well, we do it with MP3s, I think...

Hey Haus. Maybe you mean the 'Panel One' books that came out a few years back--nope, no Grant scripts there. Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman were there though. rassum frassum.

Panel One - that's right. I was wondering why I couldn't find them on Amazon. Alan Alan Alan Alan and Neil Neil Orange Peel both contribute interesting scripts, but it's a shame George isn't represented.
 
 
andrewdrilon
12:23 / 13.06.06
"andrewdrilon, I'm unsure about 'lith policy on linking but I'd guess that direct-download links (such as the above quoted "HERE") are frowned upon. I know I'm frowning. Please have the link modded or put in a bit of a warning for that link. Thanks."

Hey monk, sorry for that, I was unaware of the direct-download rules. I edited it already, awaiting moderator agreement. If people wanna see it they can go straight to Dan Fish's site, which was already linked anyway. My apologies for the faux pas.
 
 
electric monk
13:12 / 13.06.06
I'd thought of that, Haus, but those are usually clearly marked YouSendIt links. That's been my experience anyway.


andrew, thanks for putting in the request. I actually couldn't find anything in the wiki specifically forbidding d-d links. I'm going to search around a little and possible bring this issue up in Policy. Again, thanks for your understanding.
 
 
Mario
13:58 / 13.06.06
WOW, thanks Mario! I didn't even think to check there!

All part of the service
 
 
andrewdrilon
14:12 / 13.06.06
Found it. Here's a script sample from the Grant feature in Writers on Comics Scriptwriting; it's from Invisibles vol.2, issue 19:
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And here are samples of thumbnails done by Grant for the "Crisis Times Five" JLA arc he wrote a while back:
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On the comicbook scripting process, Grant says:
Because I've got a background as an artist I tend to think visually. I've usually got a vague idea to start with, and then I get a bit of paper and draw twenty-two or twenty-four little pages on it. I'll just start drawing and get some big images and work the story around those. From the sketches I get the little dialogue things, and make notes. I type that up, describe what I've drawn and polish the dialogue up. Usually, it takes about four days to do an issue.

To be honest, this hasn't even scratched the surface of the Grant Morrison material in the book, such as a massive in-depth interview with GM, a long chat about his process, and more thumbnail samples. If you're interested in picking it up, here's the Amazon link: Writers on Comics Scriptwriting by Mark Salisbury.
 
 
sleazenation
07:57 / 14.06.06
It is interesting to contrast Morrison's scripting style with Moore's, but I'm not sure quite what it has to tell us, particularly since Morrison's work was frequently, until relatively recently, not always best served by his artists - this reached such a point that sections of The Invisibles were redrawn to better illustrate Morrison's script...
 
 
DaveBCooper
10:02 / 14.06.06
The Salisbury book’s very good – and if memory serves, one of the thumbnails is the JLA splash with Batman using a gun to shoot some robots, which the editorial folks at DC (understandably enough) nixed.

I think people above may have been a bit harsh on Moore – whilst his scripts are very long indeed, they’re quite conversational, and frequently feature phrases at the start such as ‘if you come up with better ways to do things, please feel free’ etc. And as sleaze notes above, GM’s scripts have been badly represented in the past, so sometimes control-freakism may be an advantage.

But I dye cress.
 
 
sn00p
11:57 / 14.06.06
In my version of the E is for Extinction TPB it has Morrisons pitch for the new x-men, which is really kick ass. He has some good idea's about Rouge.

Perhaps i could scan it or something....
 
 
Tim Tempest
21:19 / 15.06.06
sn00p, I totally agree. That pitch was brilliant. Just. Brilliant.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
12:00 / 16.06.06
got that too, it IS great. if it's anything to go by, I'd love to read his treatment/proposals for every other revamped property, to see how he approached it. brainjuice.
 
 
Billuccho!
15:33 / 16.06.06
In my version of the E is for Extinction TPB it has Morrisons pitch for the new x-men, which is really kick ass. He has some good idea's about Rouge.

Perhaps i could scan it or something....


That'd be cool. I've only got the singles.
 
 
andrewdrilon
07:39 / 18.06.06
Snoop, I've got the hardcover for the first year which includes a manifesto, but I didn't see anything on Rogue. Maybe they edited it for the HC edition? In any case, it'd be really cool if you could share your version with us.
 
 
bencher
08:48 / 04.01.09
Was wondering if anyone knew where I could find the script excerpts for the penultimate issue of The Invisibles Vol 3(which would be issue 2, I guess)?

Namely the bits where Ashley Wood didn't get right the first time and had to be redrawn by Cameron Stewart for the trade, it was my impression that it was somewhere on the net(though I haven't been able to find it on the revamped GM site).

Any help will be appreciated.
 
 
Dan Fish - @Fish1k
11:16 / 04.01.09
should still be on my website (collated from barbelith threads):
http://fish1000.blogspot.com/search/label/Lost%20and%20Found#morrison
 
 
Dan Fish - @Fish1k
11:17 / 04.01.09
Proper linky:http://fish1000.blogspot.com/search/label/Lost%20and%20Found#morrison
 
 
bencher
00:22 / 05.01.09
Aye thanks, but it seems like the link for "Script excerpts" doesn't work anymore;(
 
 
Dan Fish - @Fish1k
09:20 / 05.01.09
Try it now, I fixed the link
 
 
s_kid
23:57 / 05.01.09
OMG...Christmas came late this year....

McCarthy and Morrison unseen Doom Patrol
 
 
Alex's Grandma
03:13 / 06.01.09
When George was good he was terrific, really.
 
 
bencher
06:13 / 06.01.09
Hey awesome Dan, thanks a lot!
 
  
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