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Old Boy

 
 
Mister Saturn
14:55 / 10.06.06
Has anyone seen this piece which I consider one of the finest to come out of South Korea yet?

It's part of a trilogy that focuses on Vengeance; it's about plans going awry, twists and turns, paradoxes and catch-22s until you cannot discern the villan and the victim. Is justification really so necessary? Or, just suck it up and admit you're selfish?

I love this movie for its scenes and editing; there's the famous "One Take" fighting scene - no CGI involved at all (except for one sharp implement).

I've watched Hostel without batting an eyelid, (I actually thought it was mild) but this movie just about made me look away in terror with my stomach flipping over, but it drew me back again to catch the increasingly, terrifyingly beautiful and complex story.

There are little touches in the movie that makes the entire movie so very hard to ignore; such as the flat knuckles, the colours and the props, off-handed comments.

Min-sik Choi is an excellent actor; I cannot wait for the third movie, which features him in another central role - the way he plays around with the character in Oldboy is incredible, and key scenes were in fact ad-libbed by him. The Villan is one of the best-written character I've encountered for a while.

What am I blabbering on for? What are your thoughts on this movie, for the story or the editing or the actors? Whether it casts a new light on the concept of the need for vengeance? The third movie comes out soon; titled Lady Vengeance (US title).

Or, do you know of any other worthwhile movies of any region similar to this one?
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
15:52 / 10.06.06
Plus, in the tradition of great revenge flicks, Min-sik Choi is EXACTLY what I would think of if you said "imagine a Korean Charles Bronson."
 
 
Shrug
16:26 / 10.06.06
Hey Lizard & Matt, there's actually already a thread on this subject. The search function and word spacing make it a little tricky to find, I know. I'm going to propose a lock on this one and then a delete when you've copied your post in. It's usually the policy for this type of thing, hope it doesn't cause you any trouble.
Cheers.
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matthew.
16:29 / 10.06.06
Spoilers!




I rented Oldboy after the constant critical wanking I found on the net. They were pushing this movie as if it was the second coming of [insert best director ever].

I saw it and I liked it. When the daughter is introduced and they think they know each other, I thought, Hey. Maybe that's the daughter. But then they "do the horizontal bop" and I put the daughter-idea out of my mind. What was I thinking?

The one-take fight scene is phenomenal. I've always wondered why people don't do more one'rs (as some film-makers call it). This one'r is certainly one of the most impressive I've ever seen.

The squid scene didn't really gross me out or anything. Didn't shock me, didn't make me gasp. Whatever. Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks, I guess.

As much as I liked Oldboy, I don't think it's as complex and sophisticated as some critics seem to think it is. I don't think it's any more layered or rewarding as any other pulp fiction. Certainly it's great pulp fiction, but I don't think it's as complex and nuanced as the critics would have us believe. I think it's just a well-done revenge flick.

The first film in the trilogy... what was it called? Anyway, I saw it and was supremely disappointed. It was slow, tedious, boring, peppered with flat characters and an ending that went on forever.

I do look forward to the third film, considering how much of an improvement Oldboy is to the first.
 
  
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