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Freaks

 
 
All Acting Regiment
13:37 / 05.06.06
Todd Browning's 1932 film (now available on google videos). Progressive or exploitative?

And, yes, that's a ridiculous binary but it's the only way I can think of to start a discussion. I haven't quite finished watching it yet. Fire away you guys: what do you think of it?
 
 
sleazenation
13:43 / 05.06.06
Both.

Next!
 
 
All Acting Regiment
14:58 / 05.06.06
Wow. Problematic, but there are some brilliant bits in that film: the relationship between the circus actors is beautiful, like a family. Such a shame that the plot demanded they revert to Monster status. But then families stick up for eachother- would I feel as uncomfortable if this was a film about slavery? I need to examine what I think about this.

Cleopatra is driven to disgust by the notion that the "Freaks" (I think it's best if we use " here) want to accept her. Also, Cleopatra's opposite number, Venus, is named after a Godess, whilst Cleopatra is named after a figure of merely earthly power...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
16:08 / 05.06.06
But they only revert to monster status in revenge, and Cleopatra (nearly called her Grace there... hmm... damn you, Big Brother) does deserve everything she gets.

It's exploitative, certainly, but our sympathy always lies with the "freaks". And I know it's a bit of a cop-out, but considering the other work available to these guys at the time, Browning's movie was about as progressive as it got.
 
 
sleazenation
16:13 / 05.06.06
I don't think there really 'revert' at all. It is a morality tale about how shittily people treat each other, the "freaks" can be just as capricious and callous as anyone else...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
16:43 / 05.06.06
That's true, but they do become the FORCE OF RIGHTFUL VENGEANCE!!!

It's a very simplistic morality tale, true.
 
 
Hydra vs Leviathan
19:38 / 07.06.06
Freaks is one of my favourite films (i would love there to be a longer, more fleshed out version of it tho - it's only 61 minutes, and as has been said has a very simplistic plot, which i think could have had more sub-plots added). It's actually given major props by the disability rights movement for having used real disabled circus performers (or ex-circus performers) as actors rather than non-disabled actors "cripping up" as was, and often still is, common practice, and for presenting the "exploited" disabled characters unequivocally as sympathetic/"heroes" (it's also probably one of the first films in which brutal revenge is carried out by the "good" side)...

To add to the classical allusions, the big one for me is Hercules and the Hydra - dunno if anyone's read The Many-Headed Hydra: The Hidden History of the Revolutionary Atlantic by Peter Linebaugh & Marcus Rediker, but i was in the middle of reading it when i saw "Freaks", and the idea of Hercules as symbol of Western/imperialist "civilisation" and Order fighting against the titular Hydra, the "motley rabble" of the unwilling exploited, representing diversity, disorder and Chaos gives added resonance to "Hercules" the strongman being defeated by the unity of the diverse "freaks" he intended to exploit... perehaps even more radical in implication than was intended...

The question of whether the disabled actors were "exploited" by Browning himself, particularly with reference to those who (probably) had mental as well as physical impairments, has oftyen been raised, but tbh without any real satisfactory conclusion - AFAIK there is no solid evidence of any kind of coercion, and IIRC several of them were friends of Browning's from his own circus days, and his intent was definitely to give a sympathetic and realistic portrayal of their lives (as well as the horror/drama, of course). IMO films like "Inside I'm Dancing", "Theory Of Flight" or "My Left Foot" (while not totally devoid of merit) are far more exploitative, for trying to be all "inspirational" and "issues-ey" (for want of being able to think of a better term) about disability, while using non-disabled actors, despite there being no lack of talented disabled actors, who could play those parts much more truthfully and powerfully...

[thinks about starting a general thread on "issues of representation in film", touching on disability, race and gender/sexuality ("Boys Don't Cry", "TransAmerica", etc)...]

had more to say, but can't think of it right now... will probably be back...

oh yeah, Barbelith totally should do the "gooble gobble" acceptance ceremony...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
19:42 / 07.06.06
"Gabba Gabba", surely?

Or did Joey Ramone die for NOTHING???
 
 
All Acting Regiment
04:29 / 09.06.06
One of us! One of us!
 
  
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