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It's a dark day for journalism.

 
 
Korso Jerusalem
18:03 / 22.05.06
Hooooray for police states.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said Sunday he believes journalists can be prosecuted for publishing classified information, citing an obligation to national security.

The nation's top law enforcer also said the government will not hesitate to track telephone calls made by reporters as part of a criminal leak investigation, but officials would not do so routinely and randomly.

"There are some statutes on the book which, if you read the language carefully, would seem to indicate that that is a possibility," Gonzales said, referring to prosecutions. "We have an obligation to enforce those laws. We have an obligation to ensure that our national security is protected."
 
 
sleazenation
18:12 / 22.05.06
You have to ask yourself is if they had existed then, would such laws have been used by the Nixon administration to help cover up the Watergate fiasco.

This isn't just a bad day for journalism in America - it is a bad day for democracy and accountability in America and for all Americans.
 
 
Jake, Colossus of Clout
18:57 / 22.05.06
Fuuuuuck.

Fuckfuckfuck.

AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!!

I hate these people so very much. What this basically says is that reporters aren't allowed to report anything of consequence, as the Bush administration decides what to classify. Anything that might make them uncomfortable is soon to be classifed, I would imagine.

More later. I'm going to vomit, then I have a job interview.
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
19:10 / 22.05.06
I wish I could say these statements are surprising, but they're not. Best you can do is write your congresspeople (if you're a US resident) and tell them how uncomfortable this makes you feel and explain why. It probably won't do any good, but hey, it's worth a shot.
 
 
Dead Megatron
20:19 / 22.05.06
Best you can do is write your congresspeople (if you're a US resident) and tell them how uncomfortable this makes you feel and explain why.

And you better do it quickly, before they decide that this is an "anti-American" practice vis-a-vis the "War on Terror"*, judge you for high treason, and give you a couple of year in prision - or complete alienation by employers, friends, and society at large, simply by accusing you thereof, no costly, lenghty, "fair" trial required.

* I "love" the idea of one government claiming to be fighting a war against an abstract concept. Since there's no objective way to know for sure when "Terror" is defeated (and by objective I mean "not decided by the government"), it can go on forever, thus justifying pretty much anything. "I'd make a 1984 reference, but..."
 
 
Slim
20:28 / 22.05.06
To be fair, the press shouldn't have the right to publish anything it wants to. For instance, if the New York Times or some other paper got ahold of nuclear targeting plans and published them in detail, I'd want to see some jail terms.
In this case, though, the government is obviously trying to scare the press and whistle-blowers into submission after it got caught red-handed. Punishing those who uncover illegal activity instead of punishing those who peformed the actual activity is absolutely ludicrous. Thank god all of this will blow over by 2008.
 
 
Korso Jerusalem
20:45 / 22.05.06
I would hope that the new york times would expose plans for a nuclear strike.

Also, who says this will blow over by '08? Bush has created a climate that may last much, much longer than that.

Hell, there have been rumblings about Jeb running in '08 anyway.
 
 
Dead Megatron
20:56 / 22.05.06
I second that.

Thank god all of this will blow over by 2008.

Are you sure? I mean, do the Dem's have any strong candidate? Because, whoever runs for Prez for the Rep's need only to cry "ban on homo rights, in the name of the Lord", as Bushy Jr. did in 2004, and all of Jesusland will rally after hir, yet again. Mark my words...
 
 
ibis the being
20:58 / 22.05.06
You have to ask yourself is if they had existed then, would such laws have been used by the Nixon administration to help cover up the Watergate fiasco.

Today on NPR's Here and Now, Professor Stephen Burgard, director of the School of Journalism at Northeastern University, talked about this subject. I'll transcribe the salient bits since it's all audio....

"The scope of what comes under the umbrella of classified information could be expanded for any number of purposes, and in fact - this is an old arugment, this is not - although the Bush administration has been especially narrow in its reading of public information, press access questions, a lot of administrations have done this in the past in some form or other, usually a lesser form to try to argue that there's a national security reason not to publish information. In fact Ben Bradley, back in the Watergate days and thereafter used to talk about how so much of the information in Washington that the government tried to argue was national security wasn't really about national security at all. So it's not really a new - a new strategy, but if you're talking about prosecution that's a, that's a different level." - Burgard

Gonzales did not specify which law he was referring to but reporters speculate that it was the 1917 Espionage Act, which when it was created had a narrower purpose - it "would be whether or not someone would ... release information with respect to troop movements, or [...] if you knew the government had cracked the Japanese code and you were then in some way making that info available," that would be illegal "To expand it and apply it to journalists ... would be a real extension." (Burgard)

"...It's a serious matter. The White House is clearly narrowing the area in which it wants to conduct this War on Terror and so forth, and the battle lines are drawn here. I would personally be surprised to see prosecutions, but - you never know." - Burgard

To listen to the whole thing, clicky here.
 
 
Slim
23:55 / 22.05.06
I would hope that the new york times would expose plans for a nuclear strike

I'm sure that the U.S. already has contigency plans for a number of places across the world. There are a few aspects of national security that should not be revealed by the press. But this case isn't one of them. I think it's more bark than bite but it sets a dangerous precedent, that the government may be willing to shut down the press if it's overly inquisitive.
 
 
Korso Jerusalem
00:06 / 23.05.06
National security is one thing, but nuclear war is another. I know that there are contingency plans, but we can all agree that they should never be used, no matter the situation.

Also, whether or not its just for intimidation purposes is irrlelevent. The fact that the threat even arose is terrifying in and of itself. To threaten inquisitive journalism with legal action is a suppression of one of the few freedoms we haven't squashed yet.
 
 
sleazenation
07:13 / 23.05.06
I think it's more bark than bite but it sets a dangerous precedent, that the government may be willing to shut down the press if it's overly inquisitive.

It strikes me in a similar sense as this memo regarding interrogation techniques to be employed on prisoners (pdf here) - this is implying a lot more than is overtly stated and will be used both as a weapon of intimidation against a largely already passive press corps and as the basis to crack down investigative journalism relating to the government.
 
 
Korso Jerusalem
20:56 / 23.05.06
I picked a great time to get into journalism. I am going to make these bastards suffer.
 
 
Baz Auckland
22:45 / 23.05.06
...unless you have an editor or newspaper owner that doesn't want the legal trouble...
 
 
Korso Jerusalem
23:30 / 23.05.06
That's what cattle prods are for. I found some on ebay for around $30.00
 
  
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