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Striking down the prophets of false!

 
  

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Regrettable Juvenilia
23:04 / 21.05.06
The Arockalypse is upon us. The day of rockening!

So as many of you will know, this year the Eurovision Song Contest was won by Lordi, with the song 'Hard Rock Hallelujah'. You can watch them perform it here.

"Significance" is always a dangerous thing to try to find in pop - and make no mistake, Lordi are pop, albeit a very specific kind - but already commentators are asking What Does This Mean? What does it mean if a gonzo metal band in full orc/demon costume and make-up can win Eurovision? Personally, I think it just means that people get it right at least every now and then. And it also means that great pop comes in many forms - I don't think Lordi won because they're dark and scary, 'cos they're not - they're grin-inducing and enthusiastic and they do what they do with love and joy.

Joy... core. Oh yes.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
23:45 / 21.05.06
\m/


You're right. Every now and then someone gets it right.
 
 
Jackie Susann
00:01 / 22.05.06
I am amused that anyone over the age of, oh, six found them scary. Surely the most obvious reason they won is they did something different? Anyone who wanted to vote for a rock song voted for them, whereas anyone the upbeat pop and serious ballad vote were split all too hell. (Plus of course it was the Day of Rockoning!!!)

If I may roam slightly off-topic, this is the first year that I can remember that Australian TV has carried the English voice-over. Normally they get this rubbish smug git who introduces 'cult movies' to do it and everything he says is annoying. English guy = hilarious! = 100% better.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
00:05 / 22.05.06
Particular good this year were (Irish) Terry's repeated claims that he hadn't had a drink or two during the evening. Or a sandwich.
 
 
Jack Fear
01:11 / 22.05.06
grin-inducing and enthusiastic and they do what they do with love and joy

Abso-fucking-tively. I'm reading the press and I'm just grinning all over myself. Lordi is the cuddliest, most adorable monster-fetish metalhead ever:

"...we’re not Satanists or devil worshippers. This is entertainment. The masks are like our calling card and we’ll never perform without them. It would be like Santa Claus handing a child his gifts and Christmas time and then pulling off his beard and saying, 'By the way, I’m your father...'"

Like Santa Claus... if Santa Claus FUCKING ROCKED!!!

Seriously, Lordi is like what you hoped Rob Zombie would be like before it turned out that he was actually creepy and kind of an asshole.

Are children afraid of Mr. Lordi? “No, not at all. It’s their parents being afraid that make the kids afraid. Kids love us. We look like their toys.”

"I still am a child. I still collect Muppets toys. I played with Star Wars figures, with Masters of the Universe figures, well, monster figures."


And now he ROCKS!!! With the JOY OF A CHILD!!! And speaking as the father of two small children I can tell you that the joy of children is PRETTY GODDAM LOUD!!!
 
 
illmatic
06:35 / 22.05.06
Surely the most obvious reason they won is they did something different?

I think that's key, and it makes me wonder if next year whoever selects these people will go for something a bit more varied. I suppose Britain tried this year. And failed dismally.

Reading the interview jack linked to above reminded me of something I wondered when I was watching it - namely, has their success been taken by any fundamentalists as proof of the collapse of Western civilisation? It is the Arockalypse, after all.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
07:28 / 22.05.06
The really weird thing is that if you look at the lyrics for 'Hard Rock Hallelujah', they could almost be Christian metal.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
08:12 / 22.05.06
The only other good band of the night LT United - We Are The Winners.

Wandering hubwards away from the topic I was surprised by how like British pop mos5t of it sounded, I suppose that, having not seen Eurovision before I thought the clogs and folk dancing quotient would be higher. Is Europop now identitcal to British pop, or was this a cynical exercise in appealing for votes? And beyond the 'x always votes for y' stuff, how many votes can be considered to be up for grabs?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
08:32 / 22.05.06
I believe that the Greek Orthodox church has expressed an amount of discontent. The Today programme today had the Finnish ambassador, or possibly arts minister, politely dismissing accusations of diabolism and locating Lordi as a part of Finnish musical culture in the tradition of Sibelius. No, really.

Ultimately, it was a catchy song with striking presentation, and if you were getting rat-arsed in front of the TV, what would you be inspired to vote for? Realistically, it would be Finland or Lithuania, surely? The ones who were memorable, clearly having a good time and most likely to try to kill and eat the presenters.

Speaking of presenters, top marks to the Netherlands for getting somebody quite clearly off his face to give the scores.
 
 
Sniv
08:36 / 22.05.06
Between We are the winners and Hard Rock hallelujah, I had a great time watching Eurovision this year (granted, I started watching just as LT United started and switched off after Lordi, but still...). The British entry was cringy-bad though, like a failed kids TV presenter rapping footballer-style in front of mugging women dressed like little girls. Ewwwwwwwwww. What year is this?

LT United were awesome though. Big grins were had by all throughout, and when they were finished, we were saying "Yeah, they are the winners!" - at least until we saw Lordi and heard the genius of the DAY OF ROCKENING \m/!!!1! I think the best thing about them was that they showed the dumb brilliance of joycore rock'n'roll to a massive audience. I can see kids going ape for it, if I was eight years old, that would probably be the best thing I'd ever seen (and a handy antidote to that evening's disappointing Dr Who episode)

I'm glad they won. I wonder if this will effect next year's entrants? I'm guessing not.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:27 / 22.05.06
I was surprised by how like British pop mos5t of it sounded, I suppose that, having not seen Eurovision before I thought the clogs and folk dancing quotient would be higher. Is Europop now identitcal to British pop, or was this a cynical exercise in appealing for votes?

I'm not sure which British pop you're thinking of here - examples? - but I think it's more that a lot of pop music we hear in the UK is influenced either by music from Europe and/or from the same places (North and South America, essentially) that are in turn also influencing Eurovision. So for example there were a few songs which had that boshing Euro-trance-pop sound, but also you could see a Shakira influence all over the place, as was the case last year.

What was interesting and heartening this year was that several of the most unusual entries - Lordi, the Lithuanian lunatics, even the Texan Germans - were also the best. And if Iceland's Silvia Night (a cross between Alan Partridge and Princess Superstar, if you can imagine that - no really) had qualified, there would have been one more. Traditionally there is always at least one weird 'novelty' entry that is jaw-droppingly awful, as anyone who saw 'Grandma Bangs The Drums' (Moldova, I believe?) last year will testify.

I think in general perhaps a higher proportion of the entries these days tend to resemble contemporary actual pop music that gets in the charts - they're more polished, in a way - but I don't think that's cynical, and when the alternative is what Ireland and Israel had to offer, I certainly don't think it's a bad thing...
 
 
wembley can change in 28 days
10:24 / 22.05.06
Oho, just found this thread.

Such happy vibes! The entire country went mad on Saturday night - we'd just had an opening night for a show that happened to be sponsored by a major Finnish brewery, and I found a live feed of Eurovision on the net on the theatre office computer. That office usually seats one person comfortably, and we stuffed 12 or so drunk actors and directors in there, screaming our heads off every time we got 12 points. The feeling was already one of "I remember where I was when X happened in history", like watching the world explode; it was simply that special.

The coolest thing is that musically, Eurovision is Swedish territory. They produced ABBA and they continue to produce sugar pop at home - sickeningly sweet, but they're really good at it. Finland has always felt miserably inferior in the sugary department, and all of a sudden we got something that's much more like what we do, but still with the requisite amount of camp. Fabulous! Plus the finglish lyrics are so charming.

Speaking of presenters, top marks to the Netherlands for getting somebody quite clearly off his face to give the scores.

Seconded!
 
 
wembley can change in 28 days
10:34 / 22.05.06
Oh Lordi, just reading the news today.

There's going to be a national celebration on Friday. Today they're meeting with the Prime Minister - although in civilian attire, as they (understandably) want to keep out of that latex for a few days. No cameras allowed, though.

One of my favourite things in the contest was actually the lead singer holding up a sign when they were announced winners: TORILLA TAVATAAN! It means "let's meet at the market square" and I thought it was the most charming thing I'd ever seen. It's exactly what happened all over the country.

Funny, you wouldn't think that anyone could take Eurovision seriously enough to be made happy by your crappy country winning with a stupid song, but there's a great vibe all around today.
 
 
Mono
10:51 / 22.05.06
Except that 'Hard rock Halleluja' is friggin' amazing. \m/

Our whole household was cheering and screaming every time Finland got the big 12 points. Did anyone else find it slightly weird when the Lordi folks were holding up said Finnish signs and the female North American-sounding presenter said "That must be monster language!"

Speaking of presenters, top marks to the Netherlands for getting somebody quite clearly off his face to give the scores.

Thirded.
 
 
Mono
10:52 / 22.05.06
And the song has been stuck in my head since Saturday.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
11:14 / 22.05.06
And if Iceland's Silvia Night (a cross between Alan Partridge and Princess Superstar, if you can imagine that - no really) had qualified, there would have been one more.

Apparently Iceland's was the first song ever to feature the word "fuck" on Eurovision- she was warned that if they made it to the finals, she'd be disqualified unless she missed out the offending word.
 
 
Spaniel
12:00 / 22.05.06
That must be monster language

LOL.

I too heard the Finnish ambassador defend Lordi against the accusations of the Greek Orthodox church. To be honest the whole idea of associating rawk with Satanism strikes me as kind of quaint, almost comforting - a kind of warm, cuddly old fashioned hysteria. Before the dark times. Before the paedophiles.
 
 
Jack Fear
12:47 / 22.05.06
Mr. Lordi, he will have you know, goes to church regularly, and the drummer used to compose Christian liturgical music.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
12:54 / 22.05.06
Mr Lordi is the best name for a lead singer ever.
 
 
Chiropteran
16:14 / 22.05.06
Well, damn.

I'm in the best mood I've been in for a week, after watching that.

For more Lordi action, there's a myspace page with songs and videos. Yow.

"All we need is lightning..."
 
 
Shrug
17:02 / 22.05.06
And if Iceland's Silvia Night (a cross between Alan Partridge and Princess Superstar, if you can imagine that - no really) had qualified, there would have been one more.

Sylvia Night has what could only be described as La Gran Shitfreak upon non-qualification, happily captured and posted on YouTube
here

Also, I've posted this in the convo thread but...
here you can see all the entrant's music videos.
 
 
Shrug
17:04 / 22.05.06
Ireland, of course, pulled a Daniel O' Donnell-esque dreary ballad out of it's arse.
Should have entered "My Lovely Horse".
 
 
Jack Fear
17:33 / 22.05.06
Wasn't Brian Kennedy representing Ireland? I saw him once—Christ, it must've been fifteen years ago or more—yeah, Summer of 1990. He was touring behind his first record, supporting Suzanne Vega.

Kind of a Van Morrison-meets-Tim Buckley thing going on, as I recall, with flugelhorn and hand percussion and long, drawn-out, self-regarding flights of vocalizing. He was a huge talent, and he never let you forget that fact for a second. Not for one, brief, merciful second.

Has he crawled out of his own arse to any appreciable extent?
 
 
Shrug
17:49 / 22.05.06
Oh I remember Brian's first single, lots of rolling around in fields smiling beatifically a bit like Jesus on an E lurve buzz, (although maybe I'm just drawing that comparison because of the flowing wispy locks he sported back then).

Has he humbled? I would say no, Jack, he doesn't seem to have humbled to any extent. If you're feeling particularly sadomasochistic you can watch the video via the above link.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
18:51 / 22.05.06
Shrug - Silvia Night is a fictional character, hence the Alan Partridge ref - that tantrum was 100% staged, although at the expense of large chunks of the European press...
 
 
grant
19:30 / 22.05.06
Finnish journalist offers heart-warming coverage.
 
 
Shrug
20:24 / 22.05.06
Oh it makes so much sense now, Fly. I'm disappointed though, I was hoping she was just batshit crazy.
Good performance.

I watched the Eurovision in the pub where we were handed out a scoring sheet giving categories of 1)Jaysus, 2)I'm going for a smoke3)I'm going to the bar and 4)No, you go to the bar. It was pretty fun although some of my compatriots were disgusted at the Lordi win.
 
 
Ganesh
20:59 / 22.05.06
They reminded me of the Wombles.
 
 
grant
01:28 / 23.05.06
It's the hat, man. Well, that and the wings.

It's kind of hard to explain, but I grew up surrounded by Finnish heavy metal fans (my first superhero comic was an X-men loaned to me by Petri Annala in second period Science), and this is sort of ideal.

Oh, and to be very clear, the journalist behind the link I posted is the third or fourth thing on the page -- you have to scroll down. They're running naked on the streets of Helsinki, folks.
 
 
Loud Detective
01:46 / 23.05.06
Good god, the video of them playing just gave me chills. Truly, it is the Arockalypse.
 
 
A
08:56 / 23.05.06
It's awesome that Lordi won, and with any luck, it will make for more interesting Eurovisions in the future, but we should spare a thought for last year's Norwegian entrant Wig Wam, whose excellent glam-metal tune In My Dreams didn't win, but softened Eurovision up for Lordi's Arockalypse this year.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:35 / 23.05.06
Yes. Yes we should.
 
 
rizla mission
09:52 / 23.05.06
I think I can say with fear of hyperbole that this is quite possibly the greatest thing that has ever happened, and I'll be forever saddened that I missed it unfolding live due to attendance at some damn music festival.

Don' t suppose anyone has the whole thing on video..? : D
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
09:18 / 24.05.06
I hope this means that Venom will reform and represent Britain next year.

There is a bit in Lordi's performance on Saturday night where you see the guitarist get a little bit to close to a spark pot and suddenly skip backwards across the stage with great speed to avoid getting covered in molten laytex.
 
 
wembley can change in 28 days
09:39 / 24.05.06
Don' t suppose anyone has the whole thing on video..? : D

Have you gone to youtube and searched for Lordi, or eurovision? There seems to be lots there...
 
  

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