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All Acting Regiment
15:59 / 18.05.06
Okay, classical music is nasty, big, a little establishment-y and daunting, but dammit, there's some great tunes there. I thought we could use this thread to sort of skim the cream of the crop and people who know a track can suggest people listen to it.

First up, Shostakovich Symphony #5 in D Minor. You can get it from archive.org here: link. ahem.

It's got atonal parts, it's got sad parts, and I'll get back to you when I've lsitened ot it and refreshed my memory of it. For now, here's a wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shostakovich
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
16:10 / 18.05.06
As somebody who was much more interested in industrial music and "weird noise/creepy sounds" in the early '90s than anything classical, Gavin Bryars' "Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me Yet" was my essential gateway into classical music. The eerie recurring tape loop that buoys all the string arrangements was perfect for my Throbbing-Gristle-loving sensibilities, but Bryars' compositions were compelling enough that I started developing an interest in "new classical" string work. I sort of worked "backwards" from there.
 
 
Quantum
16:57 / 18.05.06
I'm all about the obvious classics. Pachelbel's Canon is amazing, anyone who doesn't loathe it through over-listening should check it out.
 
 
Seth
17:14 / 18.05.06
My favourite composer is Morton Feldman. There's quite a dizzying array of his music available these days, a new CD seems to be released every month.

What does his stuff typically sound like? It's his later stuff I prefer, which mainly consists of extremely long compositions (some in excess of four hours) in which he plays with notions of space and time. To casually listen to his work gives the impression of a single motif repeating endlessly, but when you pay attention you realise he never repeats himself exactly.

Feldman is fascinated by the tone of the instrument and the way sound decays. His pieces are typically austere and best played with a lack of emotive interpretation on the part of the performer, who are typically tested to the limits of their concentration by his scores. And as a great friend of John Cage, you'll find the use of chance operations cropping up a lot.

I think the man was a genius, which is a word I use increasingly rarely these days. There's tons of writing and analysis of his work, much of it written by the man himself, and a lot of interviews you'll find online. That's all well documented, so I'll leave you to seek it out if you're interested.

My own experience of Feldman is more visceral and direct than a mere intellectual exercise in pulling his ideas and techniques apart. His work is urgent and tense, often extremely creepy and frequently beautiful. It rewards frequent replay. It sucks you in and begins to colour your entire understanding of what music can be capable of.

For beginners I recommend starting with the Tzadik edition of Patterns in a Chromatic Field and the Nonesuch released Piano and String Quartet played by Aki Takahashi and the Kronos Quartet. Let me know what you think.
 
 
Keith, like a scientist
20:00 / 18.05.06
My current personal faves are:

Wagner's "Vorspiel", the prelude to Das Rheingold, which was recently featured as the opening music to the movie The New World. It's a gorgeous piece of music that takes it's inspiration from water (the Rhine, specifically), and builds and builds majestically until it's climax.

Tchaikovsky's "Arabian Dance," from The Nutcracker has long been a big favorite of mine, even if it is a little overplayed. It's just such a beautiful mood that it sets up.

In the modern composer's world, Max Richter's "On The Nature of Daylight," from his The Blue Notebooks album on FatCat is worthy of being elevated to the aforementioned composer's level of respect. Wonderful wonderful song for strings and horns, that shows that people still are making great traditional music like this.
 
 
sleazenation
20:34 / 18.05.06
Two years ago the first night of the proms started of with Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor, moved on to some of Elgar's Enigma Variations before running the gamut of Holst's Planet Suite - it was brilliant...

Generally, as a rule, you can't go wrong with Bach, indeed, a couple of years back my office took to playing Bach in the background, everyone loved it...
 
 
electric monk
12:12 / 19.05.06
Thanks for starting this thread, Legba. I've not got much to contribute, but I guarantee I'll be following along.

Classical music is an odd genre for me. It's something I feel I'll never get my arms around, but I'm okay with that. It's easy music. Something to put on the Discman and let wash over me. I don't really worry about tracking down certain discs or box sets (tho maybe I will if I hang around here long enough). Some of my faves out of what's randomly fallen into my hands:

Holst's Planets - Glad you brought this one up, Sleaze. A beautiful, beautiful piece of music. I feel more engaged with this piece of classical than just about any other. Beginning with the martial, gut-punching "Mars, Bringer of War" and ending with the bliss of "Neptune, the Mystic", this disc feels so well-rounded and complete. It is very much like a journey through a territory hosted by Holst. Wordless, wondrously asymmetric in places. It starts by scaring the piss out of you and, in the end, delivers peace. I read somewhere (probably some Alan Moore interview or other) that the time signatures for each track have a Qabalistic connection. I know shit about time sigs, but I do think that the tracks present a good picture and feel of the relevant sephiras.

Vivaldi's Spring - My favorite piece of classical music EVER, specifically "Concerto No. 1 in E Major, 'Spring' Allegro". Pastoral, elegant. It was always the best bit of Easter Sunday services when I was a kid. I only learned recently that it was Vivaldi and what it was called. I love it so.

BACH - Somewhere along the way, I snagged a 4 CD set of Bach music. Most of it is the Brandeburg Concerto, but there's also a Violin Concerto and a few other pieces. Disc 4, however, is titled "Organ Masterpieces" and contains such beautiful baubles as "Toccata and Fugue in D-Minor", "Oh Human Being", "Oh Lamb of God", and "Fantasty and Fugue". Again, I knew not their names when I bought the disc, but recognized most instantly from childhood churchgoing. There's a complexity to Bach's pieces and something very engaging about these pieces in particular. Perhaps it's my history with them, but these are definitely close to my heart.
 
 
Kiltartan Cross
12:35 / 19.05.06
I have to recommend Carmina Burana by Orff, for O Fortuna and Fortune Plango Vulnera or whatever the second half is called. Possibly one of the most misused pieces of music of all time, O Fortuna, I think; it's almost a stereotype to play it whenever an air of extreme menace is required, and yet it's about as morally neutral a piece as you'll find. There are a couple of other stand-out songs there, too; the one about the swan is cute, and the one about booze is entertaining.

I'd also go for Shostakovich, although my personal favourite bit has to be the fast part of his 8th symphony which represents the tank battle at Kursk, it's a fantastic piece of music; it has the same driving feel to it that Mars has, and demands to be played loud.
 
 
Mistoffelees
13:12 / 19.05.06
I´ve always got mixed feelings about classical music. Bach is very accessible to me, meaning, when people praise his Brandenburg Konzerte, I can understand why they do it and can appreciate it, too. Beethoven has stuff I don´t get, but mostly I like his music very much.

And then there´s Mozart. Most of his compositions I don´t get at all. I can hear that it´s great, but it never clicks. That really annoys me. I still like his opera Die Zauberflöte very much (but it´s no comfort to me, that he´s written it for children).

Here are some tracks, I really love:

Concierto de Aranjuez (adagio) by Paco de Lucía
It has lots of quiet solo guitar parts and then the violins swell and it turns into a wonderful explosion of violins. It never gets old.

Nessun Dorma by Giacomo Puccini, an aria from the opera Turandot (1926)
Nessun Dorma means Nobody sleep, and when you hear Luciano Pavarotti shout Nessun Dorma, noone will keep sleeping. It´s very dramatic, theatralic. I like that, and that´s probably why I like power metal (which often uses violins), too.

Antonio Vivaldi´s Le quattro stagioni (four seasons)
That music is almost 300 years old but it sounds so young and alive. If you feel depressed and want to feel better, you should listen to it. You´ll jump around and want to run and roll on meadows in no time.

Camille Saint-Saëns´ Havanaise
I don´t know how to describe it. It´s almost ten minutes of a violins (and flutes?), and it sounds like a very old, wise and serious bird is singing. It has some very lively parts, and it would be nice, if my alam clock would have this, it would help me immensely in getting up.


What about movie soundtracks that are classically composed? Ennio Morricone is a musical genius, I believe. And my favourite soundtrack composer is Wojciech Kilar. He also does "serious" classical music. His soundtrack to The Ninth Gate is so wonderful, I can listen to it every day. I do believe, the movie is my favourite movie, only because of his tracks accompanying the pictures. Also listen to his soundtrack for The Pianist and Bram Stoker´s Dracula!

Also Samuel Barber´s Adagio for Strings from the movie Platoon! Just wow. Ten minutes of beautiful moving sadness and at the same time hope.

And Michael Camen´s Logan and Rogue from X-Men is beautiful and very sad. It´s way too wonderful for that movie, and many classical fans will never have the chance to listen to it, because it´s in a comic movie adaption.

Randy Edelman´s Dragonheart theme
might be too sappy for most people but I think, it´s very good. It has funny, serious, sad and happy parts and still is one organically crafted piece of beautiful music. You might not like the part, where someone is humming (although you might start humming along, too). It´s almost like a patriotic hymn for a fantasy land.
 
 
Mistoffelees
17:10 / 20.05.06
I´ve listened to some tracks of Gustav Holst´s The Planets today, and I like it very much (I even recognized the Jupiter theme).

Mars sounds like straight from John William´s Empire march. So, Holst is another composer he got inspired for his Star Wars soundtracks.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
02:44 / 23.05.06
Classical music is an odd genre for me. It's something I feel I'll never get my arms around, but I'm okay with that. It's easy music. Something to put on the Discman and let wash over me.

See, I reckon this is a dangerous habit to get into. If one treats any music as aural wallpaper, I think the tendency is to only ever see it as such - especially with classical stuff. As the initial post mentioned, many see the genre as stuffy, scary and representative of the establishment, stuff which can be difficult to get over. I know lots of people who're into a shitload of stuff but refuse to touch opera because they're convinced it's old fogeys' music. That it's too much work for little enjoyment. Which is pure crap, as there's certain operas that're just as dark as any music (Weber's Der Freischutz, from whence comes the tale that was reworked as The Black Rider, and Mozart's Don Giovanni being some of the strongest things I've ever heard) and as light and tripping as any pop there is (most of Mozart's other opera output, the Gilbert & Sullivan operettas).

I dunno. I just wonder why it gets labelled so, you know? I've never found it difficult to get into. It's daunting, yes, but so is Johnny Cash's output. So is the Wu-Tang Clan's. So is Merzbow's. It's a matter of finding what you like and making it your own - and with classical, you've got a fair bit of range for doing that, thanks to classical stations and cheap (but often brilliant) labels such as Naxos. I've been listening to classical stuff seriously for about 15 years now, and I'm at the point where I can say what I like about different ensembles' versions of the same pieces, or different conductors' versions of the same pieces. Can't read stave, can't play (classically speaking) but simply by checking stuff out of the library and writing down what I liked (and what I didn't) I was able to find a foothold and plough on.

It's snobby, but I think things like those goddamned classical chillout albums give people the wrong impression of classical music. Chopping things like Arvo Part's Tabula Rasa in halves and only giving you the "peaceful" bit without providing the edgy, paranoid buildup of the first movement is a bit like giving someone the outro of a song only and expecting them to like it. It's bollocks, I feel.

Right, I've actually been helping a mate of mine get into classical stuff - here's what I wrote him, with a little expansion. There's links to a couple of Naxos CDs 'cause they're some of the cheapest (and in some cases, the best.)

First stop: Arvo Part. Composer bio here or here(Wikipedia).
He's the main man. My favourite composer bar none. Awesomeness personified: Estonian guy who wrote truly mind-bending music. Imagine you'd heard years of Motley Crue - and then you hear Low. That's the jump in sensibilities that he gets happening. Really a fantastic person, went from serialism/Russian school stuff to "tintinnabulism" - his term for the music that he writes now. It's brilliant - pure. People like Michael Stipe and Nick Cave laud him in embarrassing terms, but his work truly is affecting. CDs to get? Fratres. It's a CD of a number of variants of a handful of tunes. Interesting in terms of the way the music changes by arrangement, it's one of the best CDs of his around.

Next, I'd get this one as it has a couple of important works: Collage uber BACH which is a transitional piece, Symphony Number 3, which is his first "tintinnabulist" piece, and Tabula Rasa which is honest-to-god my favourite piece of music ever, without question. It's in two pieces, and is for string ensemble, two solo violins, and prepared piano. Prepared piano plays these fabulous percussive chords. The first part is really frantic, sort of Bach-on-speed, over this big wave of build-and-release strings, while the second part is an amazing, sedate piece that's full of emotion. Sounds like planets moving as the sun burns its last - really, really powerful stuff.

However, if you can find it, there's a disc on HMV Classics which is about twelve bucks, I think, which has a better selection, and a better recording of Tabula Rasa. If you want to splash out, get the version that's on the ECM label, simply called Tabula Rasa - it's got the dedicatees of the piece (Gidon Kremer, Tatyana Gridenko and Alfred Schnittke) playing on it.

There's heaps of Arvo Part info here. - I wrote to him once and he wrote back to me, in german, from his home in Austria. It was unbelieveable how humble he was, how proud and honoured that someone like me took the time to write and let him know I liked his stuff. Really incredible. He's really religious, so there's a lot of choral stuff in his canon, and most of it is quite beautiful. De Profundis, his setting of the 23rd psalm, is sung by a bass, so very low, with these high, angel voices floating around ... it's pretty spectacular.

What else? John Adams is pretty good, in terms of introducing yourself to minimalism. Bio here. This cd contains Shaker Loops which is probably his best-known work. It's based on simple patterns: repetition of cell-based music. Surprisingly full of subltle nuance.

But then, if you're gonna go for that, you can't beat Philip Glass, who's also pretty good. Best thing to get is his rerecorded version of Koyaanisqatsi, which is on Nonesuch records, and has a car on the front. It's jawdropping. This CD is a good start. Sony also have one called "Glassworks", I think, which is cheap, and is a good best-of to check out.

For interest's sake, look at George Antheil: This CD is a rare full recording of his Ballet Mecanique which features aeroplane engines and buzzers as well as more typical classical instruments.

Further thoughts? Mahler. Get ye some Mahler. And see where John Williams ripped everything off from. In particular, the sixth symphony. I think it's the NPO/Barbirolli version that's the best - torturously slow in the introduction (I think other conductors rush the piece) and then fabulously emotional at the piece's conclusion, when a sledgehammer is slammed against the floor for each disabling blow dealt the symphony's subject.

Great stuff, and bundled with Richard Strauss' Metamorposes, IIRC.

That's pretty much my initial send to my mate. There's heaps more I'd recommend, but I have to give a big thumbs up to the props given Morton Feldman and Gavin Bryars, particularly. The Sinking Of The Titanic is magical.

Last.fm offers a bit of streaming stuff to sample (if you search about) and there's some great classical podcasts out there to hook into if you're keen.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
03:03 / 23.05.06
I still like his opera Die Zauberflöte very much (but it´s no comfort to me, that he´s written it for children)

Except for all the Masonic references, you mean?
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
03:22 / 23.05.06
There's a great article on Part's discography to be found here. Worth a look.
 
 
matthew.
04:53 / 23.05.06
For anybody who loves bombastic, over-the-top opera that cries out for freedom, justice, and humanism, take a listen to Roger Waters' Ca Ira. It's rather conventional for an opera, I guess because opera is rather... conventional and Waters didn't want to be too strongly rejected. As with other Waters projects, this opera relies heavily on narrative. It attempts to tell a story explicitly through song and lyrics, rather than the songs coming from the narrative (extra-diegetic?)
 
 
matthew.
04:56 / 23.05.06
Hmmm... I just remembered that operas are characterized mostly by a lack of dialogue. Thus the lyrics of the songs must propel the narrative. Whoops. Sorry.
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
22:43 / 24.05.06
That's not entirely true: there's a lot of recitative in a lot of operas... even more in operettas...
 
 
Lugue
00:01 / 29.05.06
Hum. Help! And I do hope this is the best place to ask.

There's a scene in The Pianist when Spilzman plays upon the request of a German official which has found him in the ruins. It's a rather intense piece with some almost chaotic parts and it sounded rather interesting at the time, and I'd like to listen to the thing again. Any help here with it's name and author, possibly? I suppose it might be Chopin, taking in consideration that's what the character's known for playing best, but I can't really figure out how to confirm it.

Helpy helps?
 
 
Mistoffelees
09:40 / 29.05.06
wikipedia:

"In a moving scene, we see the decrepit Szpilman, only a shadow of the flamboyant pianist he once was, perform Chopin's despairing "Ballade in G minor" before a surprising empathetic Hosenfeld."
 
 
Lugue
15:37 / 29.05.06
Danke!

(Lazy me, lazy me.)
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
12:28 / 20.06.06
Got some Avro Part from eMusic (Fratres/Festino Lente/Summa) and I am LOVING it. Thanks!
 
 
Blake Head
22:21 / 02.02.07
Finally got around to getting the Requiem for a Dream soundtrack by Clint Mansell/Kronos Quartet, and for reasons entirely contrary to the fact that the overtures develop into the perfect soundtrack to a gang-molestation by beings from the 5th Dimension, it's really got me in the mood for quite spare classical music that has threatening electronic bits nibbling at the margins. Thing is, I'm quite the classical novice, so I don't know what or who I'm looking for, and as should be obvious, I'm not entirely sure how to articulate the quality I'm looking for. Nevertheless, recommend me some artists that mix or juxtapose traditional instruments (I’m thinking strings) and electronica.
 
 
Jack Fear
00:42 / 03.02.07
Steve Reich - Different Trains.
 
 
downgrade
22:42 / 05.02.07
Ah! I came in here specifically to mention Arvo Part and whaddayknow? For pure beauty in music it gets no better for me than Te Deum. Not only is it my favorite Part piece, but sometimes it is my favorite piece of music! At times anyway...

slightly unrelated to the thread, but ]Te Deum is sampled to great effect in Urfaust's Geist ist Teufel, so if you're into outsider black metal give that a look-see, even though the track in question is heavy on the ambience and doesn't contain typical buzzsaw black metal guitars

back on topic:
If you like piano pieces and want something different from something like Feldman or Romantic composers or even Baroque and Classical pieces, try Charlemagne Palestine's Strumming Music[ or LaMonte Young's Well-Tuned Piano[. It has somewhat the same aural effect as Shaker Loops[ loops in that it will rattle your brain (though coaxingly!)

I post this in the assumption that we're talking about intentionally composed music through method and not Classical music in the period sense
 
 
downgrade
22:42 / 05.02.07
whoops! sorry about the wrong code!
 
 
Benny the Ball
05:55 / 06.02.07
I'm really into Mozart's Magic Flute at the moment. I don't really know that much about opera, I've seen one live (rigaletto) several years ago. I must say I prefer German opera to Italian, something about the long vowels rather than the machine gun stacatto style of italian when sung seems to work much better.

My all time favourite though is;

In the Hall of the Mountain King - Greig - I love the way that this builds, the first few notes seem so delicate and quiet as to not even exist - and slowly more and more layers are added until the cresendo.
 
 
■
09:07 / 06.02.07
A third for Arvo Part. I just discovered him recently after our critic kept giving him glowing parise and heard some one afternoon on Classic FM I finally got round to buying a "Best of" the other week and it's just astonishing. Minimalist in a way that sounds anything but. Cantus In Memoriam Benjamin Britten is my favourite. It starts quietly but by the end it's one of the most atmospheric and damned loud pieces of music I've ever heard. Right gives me the willies, it does.

Other stuff: Pachabel's Canon is one of those pieces which, like Vivaldi's Four Seasons, gets a bad press because it's everywhere (even The bloody Farm got a hit out of it), and there are so many dull versions. get one with lots of strings (yeah, I know, it's supposed to be an organ piece) and it's a thing of true shivery beauty.

Bach's Brandenburg Concertos are superb, and I love a bit of showy Handel now and then, too.

Will be using this thread to track down more stuff later. Except the opera, which has always, inexplicably, left me cold. I guess it's something that must be experienced first-hand.
 
 
Blake Head
16:17 / 12.02.07
I liked the Steve Reich piece, but I had in mind something more modern. C'mon Barbelith, what's the cutting edge of the classical composition meets electronica digital revolution?

I'm a big fan of Arvo Part's Alina album, and I want to explore more by him in the same minimalist style, but I've been warned that some of his works are more traditional or religious and are quite different. What should I be picking up?

I went to see Don Giovanni at the Fest in the summer and while it was an experience it left me... unmoved. I liked bits of it, but I think the mix of narrative, performance and music is particularly difficult if you're not used to it.
 
 
Thorn Davis
08:51 / 13.02.07
One of my favourite symphonies is Brahms 4th. For whatever reasons his symphonies don't seem to get as much attention as his works for Cello. Maybe they were too in thrall to Beethoven's style, or maybe they were just too old fashioned. But symphony no. 4 is a lovely piece, with dozens of moments of greatness, including the gripping second movement. Second movements normally bore the crap out of me, usually relegated to being the 'calm' before the storm, but this one grabs me for whatever reason. The third movement is just crazy bombast, about the only time in Brahms's career where he casts off his stuffy, serious suit and really lets rip with something blistering and exhilirating. So! There you go. Brahms Symphony no.4. Good stuff.
 
 
Kiltartan Cross
18:09 / 13.02.07
I'd like to recommend you Sir William Walton's 'Battle of Britain' suite (composed for the film, but dropped except for one main sequence); it is absolutely striking and supremely evocative.
 
 
RichT's boring old name
19:17 / 14.02.07
Even though I've been staving off adding to this as I felt it was turning into a list of disparate things that were good without any real discussion, much like the Anime thread in Film & TV, I suppose I'd better answer Blake Head's question, as it's pretty much a speciality of mine...

One of my favourite composers working with instruments and electronics at the moment is Richard Barrett, although I don't think much stuff for instuments and electronics is commercially available. One of his recent CDs (called Transmission) has Transmission for electric guitar and live electronics on, it's like Eddie van Halen being cut to pieces.

And Brian Ferneyhough's Time and Motion Study II is amazing, although having learned it I've got a bit of a love/hate relationship. There's currently a recording of Freidrich Gauwerky playing it which I find a bit dry, but the ring modulated voice against cello is really fat at the end.

Otherwise Stockhausen's done some absolute classics- Mixtur for a small orchestra with different sections put through ring modulators although that's only available from Stockhausen's publishers directly. Also Kontakte, for electronics with optional percussion and keyboard (although it's mainly about the electronics)- which is readily available. I don't know that much of his later stuff really as he's been working on such a massive scale for the past 20 odd years on his Sieben Tagen aus Licht cycle and he's an utter control freak about performances and everything has to go by him.

There's also quite a lot of Jonathan Harvey available with strings and electronics, although I'm not as keen on his stuff (although some's good).

From the other side of the pond there are Cage pieces which use instruments and electronics, although the way they are realised can vary dramatically. Also Alvin Lucier done some goregeous pieces with instruments interacting with sine wave generators, they take some patience but can be really rewarding.

also noticed: Nothing is Real (Strawberry Fields Forever) (1990) for piano, amplified teapot, tape recorder and miniature sound system
in his work list- probably part of Aki Takahashi's HyperBeatles project.
 
 
Blake Head
23:47 / 14.02.07
RichT: Thanks very much, I will explore further. It is useful for beginners like myself to have a space to pick up / request leads to follow up from those more in the know.
 
 
Locust No longer
21:07 / 15.02.07
Well, I'm very far from a classical music expert (which always seems like a prerequisite to recommend things), but I really enjoy some of Iannis Xenakis' work, particularly "Eonta, for 2 trumpets, 3 trombones & piano
." Pierre Boulez stated believed the score to be unplayable in its original form and had it modified. Although, it was later shown it could be played by Xenakis' standards and Boulez looked like a shitheel. No, it really isn't that hard to understand and it isn't a big mess of chaotic elements; instead, it's an intense ride through dramatic and conflicting moods-- huge jumping piano runs, long plaintive trombone and trumpet tones, EXCITEMENT. I have no idea what the musical theory is or what techniques Xenakis uses other than it sounds fucking wonderful and scary and beautiful. It's probably one of the first classical music compositions I really connected to on a visceral level and helped me, surprisingly enough, get into less, so-called "difficult" stuff by Beethoven and Debussy. Xenakis is terrifically interesting guy, too-- he fought the Greek right wing after WWII and lost an eye doing so; he also pioneered compositions that were based off mathematical structures and architecture. I have no idea how he did this but it sounds nice.

I'm listening right now to Edition Wandelweiser's streaming radio which showcases compositions from the stable of composers. I just got turned onto it from the I Hate Music message board. Wandelweiser is apparently a German contemporary classical label that specializes in a lot of minimalist composers like Antoine Beuger, Michael Pisaro (who I'm listening to now), and Manfred Werder. Some of it is very, very nice and takes Morton Feldman's ideas the next logical step-- it might be interesting to a few posters here.
 
 
RichT's boring old name
12:42 / 16.02.07
but I really enjoy some of Iannis Xenakis' work, particularly "Eonta, for 2 trumpets, 3 trombones & piano

Eonta's a great piece- especially when played live, all the brass players have choreographed movements arount the stage, so there are all sorts of mad directional effects (although it detracts from the effect if they've got noisy shoes).

In some of the early performances (under Boulez) the number of players was doubled to compensate for the amount of material they had to play, later the performers have managed to catch up with the technique.

I think Xenakis was an amazing composer- he made no concessions for what was going on at the time, instead looked to the future. He wrote for the players to adapt to his music (possibly using technology yet to exist), rather than adapting the music to the players- some of it still highly physically demanding and technically impossible to play; Evryali for solo piano has lots of 12 note chords in (count your fingers...).

Despite the highly calculated stochastic techniques used in writing (set and group theory, brownian motion- although it's debateable how much he actually stuck to these rules on later analysis of the music) I find his music to be amongst the most emotive, and yes- visceral I've ever heard.

Also check out some of his electroacoustic works- some of them make the majority of noise artists now look tame, and yet the so much variety and interesting stuff in there- Bohor sounds like a jet engine going off in your face. There's also a nice edition of Persepolis with an extra remix disc done by people like Merzbow.
 
 
Sibelian 2.0
22:18 / 08.03.07
I add my voice to the growing chorus of praise for Arvo Part.

I'm very fussy about music. I tend to latch onto one track and play it over and over again obsessively. There aren't an awful lot of tracks that survive this kind of treatment, but Fratres is one of them. It's possessed of a quality yet to be named in English, a sense of being beautifully alien and mysterious yet simultaneously hauntingly familiar. The first time I heard it it was as if I had always known it and was simply remembering it, note by note, as something taught to me in childhood.

Others?

Steve Reich has been mentioned upthread, if you like Different Trains you'll love the Desert Music. I think the Desert Music is better. It's simpler and more structured than Different Trains and almost the opposite of "trance", it's big and wide awake and makes me imagine the birth of a world as per Aslan's Song in "the Magician's Nephew". Best played loud.

Ravel, most people only know the Bolero, which Ravel himself regarded as a joke. There's only one of his that I've obsessed over, but I *really* obsessed over it: Le Gibet, the second movement of Gaspards de la Nuit, an amazingly subtle piece with slowly shifting alternating currents between darkness and light. Immensely sombre and heavy with moments of surrealism, best paid close attention to.

It's worth buying even a cheap CD of anything by Chopin, as there's a good chance you'll recognise most of it. So coy! Such wit and elegance! So human and delicate, like a gossipy, giggly conversation with an old friend! Best on Sunday mornings during a big breakfast. Dressing gown and slippers music.

And, of course, the Rite of Spring by Stravinsky, emulated extensively by horror film soundtrack composers without any of them ever getting anywhere near it. One of the most violent and extraordinary pieces of music ever written. Each recording is different, obviously, but the tape my Dad bought and had us listen to 30 odd years ago sounded is if the orchestra was demonically possessed... Best listened to at full volume well away from the rest of civilisation. Be warned, it will make you want to destroy things. Exhilirating...

And one more, Ernö Dohnányi 's "Variations on a Nursery Song" ..., which is wonderful. It starts off *very* serious and then turns into a joke that will have you either switching off the hi-fi in disgust or falling over laughing. Yes, classical composers do cover versions!
 
 
Disco is My Class War
04:39 / 09.03.07
Fans of Bach might like to listen to the Glenn Gould recording of The Goldberg Varations. It's one of my favourite pieces of music; the whole cycle of variations has the capability to smooth out nasty angst into gentle, reflective melancholy. Glenn Gould was probably the finest interpreter of Bach in the entire 20th century: he likes it clean, precise, crisp -- never sentimental.

I like the 1981 version better than the 1955, too.
 
  

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