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Robocop prototype built

 
 
Molly Shortcake
05:53 / 05.08.01
From http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-116291,00.html

Robocop prototype is looking just a little down at eel

FROM BEN MACINTYRE IN WASHINGTON

IT CANNOT yet do the housework nor repel alien invaders, but the first functioning cyborg — combining a living brain with high technology — has arrived in the form of a machine that whizzes around looking for light and thinks like an eel.
Scientists in Chicago have created a robot guided by the extracted brain of a tiny eel-like lamprey, in a breakthrough paving the way for a new generation of inventions merging living tissue with high technology.

The machine, about the size of a cigarette packet, is attached to the brain of a lamprey kept alive in an oxygenated saline solution. When it detects a light, the electronic eyes on the device send a signal to the live brain, which then commands the wheels to roll via a microprocessor.

In a specially designed pit, the cyborg dashes back and forth in pursuit of the flashing lights. “Until the recent past, people were using biological nervous systems to inspire technology,” Sandro Mussa-Ivaldi, of Northwestern University’s Rehabilitation Institute in Chicago, told The Washington Post. “Now we have gone one step beyond, to tap into the nervous system itself.”

The inventors of the device say that it could eventually lead to the development of prostheses and machines to help stroke victims and others suffering disability due to nerve damage.

Similar experiments combining animal tissue with microelectronics are under way with numerous potential applications, including the use of genetically engineered bacteria to identify pollutants and adapting moth antennae to pick up the presence of land-mines.

As microelectronics grow ever smaller, the technology is becoming compatible with even the smallest living creatures.

“We are asking the question: ‘Can we make machines with living components and make them work?’” said Alan Rudolph, of the Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency.

The science is in its infancy, and there are few obvious uses for the lamprey-brain lighthunter. Our own brains can tell us when the light is on, and electronics can already do the job without resorting to the brainpower of the lamprey.

There is another problem with the invention — and cyborg science in general: even by the standards of modern high-tech gadgets, it does not last very long, and requires a surfeit of lampreys to keep running.

The brain remains alive for only a few days in its special solution before the machine expires, and another lamprey must die.





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sleazenation
07:32 / 05.08.01
strictly speaking this isn't really the first cyborg is it? Surely people with prosthetic limbs were the first step down this road.
 
 
grant
11:40 / 06.08.01
Yeah, but in this one, it's a brain giving the orders directly, rather than using muscles (the "old-fashioned way").

It's amazing -- these things are so cool when you picture just one of them, but picture 20 of them zooming around a lab somewhere, and they become really, really creepy.
 
 
ynh
16:11 / 06.08.01
Okay, the date was in April. I couldn't believe the Daily Show had scooped this.

What grant said regarding muscular v. neural control. If you saw the roach photo I compulsively post in this type of thread, then you've seen the precursor input-style tech. Roaches have a fairly distributed nervous system so they were ideal for the in-between stage (gotta love that nature, prepared for everything).

I'm kind of excited about keeping the brain alive in a bath for a few days. Then I started imagining a bunch of those in a tank. /chills.
 
 
fluid_state
20:10 / 06.08.01
yet we still debate stem-cell cloning and abortions. how do you suppose our cultures will react when this Cyborg tech comes to the fore? Is this tech as "unholy and immoral" as some claim cloning to be?
 
 
netbanshee
05:07 / 07.08.01
...instead of letting a bunch of lame old guys debate over it's existence, it'll hopefully be smart enough to attach itself to some anti-tank guns with a megaphone and start giving the orders...either that or it'll get addicted to a pink gooey drug called nuke, fight the police when it wants more, and our secret, hybrid stem-cell mutants will battle it head to head on pay-per-view...
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
16:15 / 11.08.01
I want a Robo-lamprey.
God, how cool is that? I could have loads. What a wonderfully vile toy idea.

You know it'll happen...
 
 
Tom Coates
13:39 / 28.04.02
People who work on Cyborg-related stuff in the social sciences talk about how fuzzy the line is between tools being used as prostetics (bats, saws, glasses and the like) and actual internalised electronic stuff.
 
 
solid~liquid onwards
14:00 / 28.04.02
Its not the first time ell brains have been used like this...i read an article ages ago about how eel brains were used as simple calculators

on the other end of the spectrum theres some mad dude in england who attached the nervous system in his arm to a computer and controlled a robot arm with his nervous systerm...he did a whole load of other stuff like that and hes working on brain implants right now, next he gonna have his whole nervous sytstem wired up as well as his wifes

kinky
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
15:19 / 28.04.02
i think the 4 days is a built in death sentencs, like in blade runner, that way the eel brains dont realize that they have the strength of 5 gorrilas
 
 
Lionheart
16:18 / 28.04.02
Actually the first cyborg was a guy named J.D. who had two glasss cones implanted in his neo-cortex. The cones where covered with neurons and were hooked up to a mouse.
after 6 weeks J.D. could move a mouse on the screen just by thinking about it.

Btw, J.D. was paralyzed. Gotta go.
 
 
YNH
16:37 / 28.04.02
Neuroscientists use most of the same analogies, Tom. In fact (along the lines of Lionheart's post) a friend actually working on brain plugs says learning to use any cybernetic attatchment would be "just like using a mouse."
 
 
trantor2nd
23:21 / 27.06.06
It'd be great if everyone would post links to sites they refer to. I couldn't access the very first link on this thread. "Bacteria to identify pollutants" is not as difficult a technology as figuring out which part of the brain to connect to what hardware and using what kind of link.
During the few days the brain slowly starves in the nutrient bath, it's IQ would constantly decrease until it would be too stupid to display phototropism. They should make a mini heart-lung machine to connect to the brain's blood vessels.
 
 
*
02:53 / 28.06.06
I think that might be because the link is five years old. Often they expire, the article is moved or archived, or sites go down (not the case here).
 
 
Proinsias
15:03 / 28.06.06
Balls to Robocop

Bring on ED-209 for real.



Well maybe more battletech, but you could still sit in it and shout at unarmed civilians to drop thier weapons.

There are some vids of it moving and shooting in the link.

Click
 
 
grant
20:00 / 28.06.06
It's strange -- this brain/computer interface technology feels like old hat to me now.

Still itches like hell, though.
 
 
Joggy Yoghurt
20:12 / 14.07.06
Id buy that for a dollar!!









Damn Im good
 
 
invisible_al
08:02 / 04.11.06
Just spotted this on YouTube Genuine Cyborg style technology, fast forward throught the first bit as the tech only turns up about half way through.
 
 
trantor2nd
01:57 / 09.01.07
It doesn't walk on two legs, it slides very slowly along two roller scates. It can't raise either leg so presumably needs well-paved roads to walk on. The cockpit with the pilot is an easy target without any armor. It is a top-heavy snail that I wouldn't want to ride in for any sort of fighting. They're gonna have to stick with tanks, at least for this century. This is strictly an exhibition model. Watch ED-209 being presented to the board instead.
 
  
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