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Cover versions that are better than the originals

 
  

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doctorbeck
09:12 / 15.05.06
i think there is something about an artist totally making a song their own, inhabiting it, shaping it, finding new things in it that makes this work for me, when it works the original gets forgotten almost, even if you love it to bits

a couple spring to mind

aretha franklin covering otis reddings respect, shifted it from a personal song about your relationship with a partner to a social and political anthem about being black in america and a black woman in relationships. awesome.

also 2 versions of leanord cohens 'hallelujah' by john cale (the best coveri think) and jeff buckley, both of which take a great song marred by lazy the slick production that characterised a lot of lennies 80s work and brought out somehting tender and fragile in it (cale) and tracendental (buckley)

any other thoughts on this? and i have to say the fall do this with every song they ever cover, probably the best covers band in the world.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:16 / 15.05.06
For reference...
 
 
pickle doodle
04:34 / 18.05.06
As far as I'm concerned,

1. Dokaka- "Angel of Death" (Maybe not better per se, but surely just as impressive)

2. The Slits- "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" (Not better either, depends on your preference I guess)

The worst:
Muse's cover of Lightning Bolt's Dracula Mountain.

I'm not sure what exactly an artist needs to do for a cover to outdo the original. I do know however that in order for a cover to avoid being described as a mere parody it should restrain from sounding exactly like the original unless of course the "artist" chooses to add something of their own and not take out everything that was good about the original and replace it with a measly substitute.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
08:47 / 18.05.06
Laibach did a cover of the Beatles' "Let it Be" album -- everything but the title track, as I recall -- quite a while ago (12+ years?). On the whole, a lot of the album was a sort of leaden in-joke, but the stand-out track was "Across the Universe," which was absolutely brilliant: echoing female voice over top of a very simple harpsichord arrangement.

As much as I like the Beatles, a lot of their later catalogue sounds like some stoned dudes writing throwaway songs about love, mannnn. The Laibach track really draws out what's great about Lennon's songwriting -- the humanity and fragility -- by putting it in a new context.
 
 
johnny enigma
09:20 / 18.05.06
Pickle doodle - you're the only person ever who agrees with me about The Slits' "I Heard It Through The Grapevine"! Good for you!
If you like seventies style punk, check out Inner Terrestrials' version of "Guns Of Brixton" - you can download it for free on their myspace.
I think that for a cover to be better than the original, I think all that's needed is some style and imagination, as well as the guts to sing the song like you own it. I've been in bands that have played the odd cover, and the key to making it work is to not to copy the original because you are unlikely to better it that way.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
09:24 / 18.05.06
"I bet. I BET. I BET..."
 
 
Quantum
17:16 / 18.05.06
Best advice to a band is probably to cover Dylan. I have a rare charity compilation of other bands covering Bob including the Boo Radleys of all people (Outlaw Blues). It's easy to sound better than Bob and almost impossible to write better than him.
 
 
SteppersFan
18:23 / 18.05.06
The Stranglers' version of Walk On By. Awesome, epic rendition of the tune, fabulous gritty vocals, quite superb guitar and keyboard solos. One of the best bits of music ever.

Devo's version of Satisfaction. No I'm not slagging off the Stones, but Devo's jerky funk take is just fantastic.

On the Laibach tip, their version of Live is Life easily surpasses the original, and I love it, but I suspect it is still beyond the pale for most.

The Young Gods did a terrific Cover of the Glitter Band's hello it's good to be back, and of course the Human League's version of old kiddie fiddler's Rock'n'Roll part 2 far out-classes the original.

Isaac Hayes' oceanic cover of By the Time I Get to Phoenix surely deserves a mention.

There's a reggae version of Rainy Night in Georgia that I've got somewhere, can't remember who it's by but it's ace.

Obviously the Congo Natty version / cut-up / detournement of Boom Bye Bye is better than the original (cos it rips out all the homophobic toss) but I'm not sure it really counts.
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
18:40 / 18.05.06
Come to think of it...

I have loved almost every Neil Diamond cover I've ever heard (Urge Overkill's "Girl You'll Be A Woman Soon," Johnny Cash OR Chris Isaak doing "Solitary Man," pretty much anyone doing "Sweet Caroline") ... but I really don't like Neil Diamond.

Why? Not 100% sure, but I think Diamond writes good, simple songs. Straight-up hooks, doesn't get too cute with the lyrics or the melodies, but the man has too much used-car salesman in him for me to ever take him seriously.
 
 
GogMickGog
20:23 / 18.05.06
What about Jimmy Cliff's version of "I'm in the mood for love" (craftily altered to "Ska") which crops up on one of the Trojan Ska comps, alongside a blistering version of the theme from the Third Man? Skantastic bliss!

I second Devo's version of Satisfaction, but what about The Resident's version on "Third Reich n' Roll". Them's some odd beans, eh?
 
 
Andria
21:03 / 18.05.06
I heard The Residents cover of "Satisfaction" before I heard the original, because I'm strange like that. Same with their cover of "It's A Man's, Man's, Man's World," (or whatever it's titled), and I prefer the cover versions of both songs.

One other song that I heard a cover version of first is "Mad World." I heard, of course, the Gary Jules and Michael Andrews version that's in Donnie Darko and really loved it, but the original is surprisingly bad. I'm impressed that they managed to turn it into such a moving song.

So there might be a pattern here: I also prefer Jeff Buckley's version of "Hallelujah" (despite appreciating John Cale's version more) and that is the version I first heard. Leonard Cohen's version just sounds wrong to me, probably because I'm less familiar with it. This pattern might be pretty universal: do other posters feel the same?

One song that does not follow the above pattern is, predictably, "Hurt." I first heard the Nine Inch Nails version and liked it but didn't think it was anything outstanding (in the context of all the other great songs on The Downward Spiral, I mean). Johnny Cash not only made me cry, but also provided an entirely new perspective to the song, so although the Cash version is my favourite, I've come to like the NIN version more.

Mark Kozelek might be one of the best cover artists ever; I never knew AC/DC songs (among others) were so beautiful and sad. It's really impressive how he rearranges those songs and reinterpret them, makes them totally his own (which, to me, is what makes a cover great, or at least interesting. Nothing is worse than covers that sound just like the original).

Trying to think of more good covers pretty much only makes me think of remixes, such as the ones by DFA. I think remixes, when well-done, do the same thing as a well-done cover - reinterprets the song and brings something new to it. Would remixes count as a sort of cover?
 
 
Tom Paine's Bones
22:22 / 18.05.06
I absolutely adore the Sugababes cover of I bet you look good on the Dancefloor, It does what I want from a cover. Takes a song and makes it into something different. In this case a melodic disco stomp.

I also like the Flaming Lips cover of I can't get you out of my Head, Again I think it takes the song and makes it their own. And I just like the change from a celebratory floorfiller into a gloomy song of unrequited love.
 
 
SteppersFan
07:14 / 19.05.06
Jimmy CLiff's I'm in the mood for ska - chooooooooooooooooooonnnn! One of the best pieces of music ever.

I'd love to hear the Flaming Lips cover of I can't get you out of my Head. Probably similar to Travis' cover of Hit Me Baby One More Time - achingly gorgeous...

Very good point about the Cash cover of Hurt making the original sound better. I prefer NIN's muscular industrial funk songs rather than the sub-Emo drug addict miserablism they've gone in for recently. On a related note, NIN's version of Get Down Make Love is fantastic. And on another related note, Alien Sex Fiend's cover of Cash's I Walk the Line is terrific, possibly not better in absolute terms, but adds a lot.

A mate of mine really rates this bluegrass group that does AC/DC covers very sweetly - can't remember what they're called, have they been mentioned already?
 
 
illmatic
08:02 / 19.05.06
That'd be The Gourds. Their cover of Gin & Juice is a killer.
 
 
johnny enigma
08:17 / 19.05.06
2stepfan - the band your friend is thinking of is Hayseed Dixie. They started out just doing AC/DC covers but on their last album they surpassed originals by Led Zeppelin and Green Day, in my opinion.
"Gin and Juice" by The Gourds is an absolutely killer track though.
 
 
SteppersFan
10:32 / 19.05.06
Thanks for the tip! What a weird, pythonesque name for a band...
 
 
Jack Fear
10:52 / 19.05.06
A mate of mine really rates this bluegrass group that does AC/DC covers very sweetly - can't remember what they're called, have they been mentioned already?

Hayseed Dixie are specialists in this mini-genre (hence the horrible punning name), but believe it or not there seems to be a cottage industry in bluegrass AC/DC covers. Alsion Krauss is on record as being a huge AC/DC fan, and I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that she and her band used to play AC/DC covers in rehearsal, just for fun, though they've never recorded one.
 
 
strange loop
06:17 / 23.05.06
Calexico's cover of Goldfrapp's Human got me to start listening to them (Calexico, that is.) It's a very different song, but I think both are great songs.

The Cure's cover of Hendrix's Purple Haze is beautiful. again totally different, it sounds like a stretched out trip. imo, one of the best songs The Cure have ever done. I wouldn't say it's better than the orinal (kinda hard to improve on that) but it is a work of beauty.
 
 
Loomis
07:47 / 23.05.06
Has everyone clicked on Flyboy's link? There is another thread on this you know, and pickle doodle and johnny enigma should really take a look. For kicks at least.

Speaking of Hayseed Dixie, I saw them last year and they were excellent. I thought they would be a bit more of a joke but they were good musicians. Their fingers were up and down the banjo fretboard like lightning, good vocals, a class act all round. Very tight and professional - almost too professional actually. A lot of the banter seemed overly scripted. Haven't heard any of their albums but they did some covers of other bands at the gig. Ace of Spades was pretty good as I recall.
 
 
johnny enigma
08:04 / 23.05.06
Forgot the most obvious choice for a cover that's better than the orignal - "All Along The Watchtower" by Hendrix. Jimi's version is absolute perfection from start to finish. Dylan's original just seems a bit flat and lifeless in comparison.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
21:30 / 24.05.06
This should be good for about a week - it's a link to a very good cover of a song already mentioned in this thread (but not the cover mentioned in this thread). There are indeed no Montagues or Capulets - just banging tunes and DJ sets.
 
 
Jake, Colossus of Clout
21:49 / 24.05.06
Chris Isaak doing "Solitary Man"

Oh, yes. I love that song.

Also, his version of "Only The Lonely" is fantastic as well. The Baja Sessions album has several great covers on it.

Apart from Chris, the Dead Kennedys doing "Viva Las Vegas."
 
 
ORA ORA ORA ORAAAA!!
01:20 / 25.05.06
There's a band called Luther Wright and the Wrongs, who have an album called Rebuild the Wall. Which is the Wall, but bluegrass/country-d.

And it's really good!

I haven't listened to it for a while, but I still catch myself singing "mother" in country styles, every now and then. Often for days at a time.
 
 
grant
13:35 / 25.05.06
Wikipedia is once again a beautiful resource.
 
 
Hydra vs Leviathan
20:06 / 28.05.06
I'm going to be controversial and say that i consider Johnny Clarke's version of "Crazy Baldheads" and The Gladiators' version of "Soul Rebel" to be superior to the Marley originals... i also prefer The Fugees' (Lauryn Hill's really) "Killing Me Softly" to Roberta Flack's (i think that was the original, tho John Holt and others have done it), but i also think the Fugees' version of "No Woman No Cry" is utterly fucking pointless and really rather embarrassing...

Aretha can cover absolutely anything and make it sound a) at least as good as the original, and b) as if she wrote it... cases in point: "Let It Be" (infinitely more moving than Lennon's version), "Son of a Preacher Man", the aforementioned "Respect" (which most people think was written by her)... i even (again perhaps controversially) think that her version of "People Get Ready" tops the Impressions original...

There's actually one track on the Fugees' first album [how many times can i mention The Fugees in one post???] that claims to sample "Bridge Over Troubled Water by Aretha Franklin"... which i haven't heard, but on the strength of her "Let It Be" i'd really like to...

In fact, given the Dylan comment earlier, Aretha is kind of the anti-Dylan, isn't she? I wonder if an "Aretha Sings Dylan" project is viable? (i was surprised to find out that both of them were still alive when they had comebacks in the mid/late 90s...)

Agreed on the versions of both "Hurt" and "Mad World" mentioned... both much more moving in their acoustic, non-electronic incarnations...

Wasn't there a controversy over whether Marvin Gaye's version of "I Heard It Through The Grapevine" was actually the original, or Gladys Kinght & The Pips' version? IIRC Smokey Robinson wrote it, and one of the former two recorded it first, but the other had it released first... but it's probably fairly academic, as everyone covered everyone's songs at Motown...
 
 
eargang
21:07 / 28.05.06
Without a doubt - Ben Folds' cover of Dr. Dre's Bitches Ain't Shit.
 
 
Hydra vs Leviathan
09:31 / 29.05.06
in the "great comedy covers" category: Elbow do Destiny's Child
 
 
Red Concrete
14:22 / 29.05.06
There are some songs tht are so completely outdone by their cover-versions that everyone forgets the original...

The best example is that cursed song 'Without You' by Badfinger, made into an epic ballad by Harry Nilsson (no comment on the Mariah Carey version).

Other than that, one personal favorite of mine is Stina Nordenstam's cover of 'People Are Strange' (odd video by a fan).
 
 
matthew.
16:10 / 29.05.06
Gnarls Barkley's Crazy, the original, a great tune showcasing Cee-Lo's soulful vocals and some great beats from DangerMouse.

Ray Lamontagne's Crazy, which sounds exactly like Lamontagne's original work. An example of a great and fitting adaptation. Lamontagne is a Stephen Stills-influenced folk singer who's debut, Trouble, is easily one of my favourite albums of all time.

Found here.
 
 
ZF!
18:25 / 29.05.06
Nada Surf's electro-ish cover of the Pixies, "Where is My Mind."

Don't hurt me!
 
 
doctorbeck
10:19 / 30.05.06
>Nada Surf's electro-ish cover of the Pixies, "Where is My >Mind."

but what is it that makes it good? other than the fact that it exists in the first place

i want to suggest 'transmission' by mormom rockers Low as an all time great cover, it totally transforms the claustrophobia and dizziness of the joy division original into somthing sad, slow and meditative, so delicate as to be almost not there, a good eight minutes long, it sort of drifts and sounds totally teir own, in afct they are an all round great covers band and pretty much do that with everything they cover (even on a ep of christmas songs)

i ahve a massive soft spot for coltranes version of my favourite things too, taking a slightly cheesy standard amd making something complex and strange out of it whilst retaining the total joycore brilliance of the original, but i'm not sure if jazz interpretations count as covers?
 
 
ZF!
11:39 / 30.05.06
>>Nada Surf's electro-ish cover of the Pixies, "Where is My >>Mind."

>but what is it that makes it good? other than the fact >that it exists in the first place.

I like the original version of "Where is my Mind?" and while I missed their heyday, they were pretty popular back at 'Varsity (as they are now), and propbably one of my favourite bands.

The Nada Surf version, however updates it in a way, makes it quite palatable to my current tastes (and at the time when it came out). I love the scratchy speeded up beats, and the use of electronica which adds to the eerie quality of the song. Perhaps it's the mixture of two bands whom I love, with a product that is not necessarily the common output (guitar rock) of either band.

All together, for me, that makes the song progressive and peculiar with some nostalgic connotations.
 
 
camofleur
12:35 / 30.05.06
Johnny Cash - hurt. trent reznor actually stated in an interview that he feels like the song doesn't "belong" to him anymore.
 
 
doctorbeck
15:21 / 30.05.06
hurt is one of the best examples of a song being toally taken over and added depth and nuance that i've heard, a stunner i agree

2stepfan said:
'There's a reggae version of Rainy Night in Georgia that I've got somewhere, can't remember who it's by but it's ace.'

i think that is on the 'trojan reggae party' live lp and segues into an unlikely but good version of dylans lay lady lay,
have to say that the Tony Joe White original is better than any cover of 'georgia' though, i saw him play it live last year and the goddam hairs on the back of my neck stood on end
 
 
looth teeth
20:32 / 01.06.06
dolly parton's version of stairway to heaven, banjo and all, is a great performance. total lack of that knowing, quoting of a classic. dolly rises above.

i agree with drbeck that the fall usually trump the original, perhaps through wise choices, or bloody mindedness. compare and contrast with the wedding present who can over stretch or are too respectful.
 
  

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