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Bush says fight against terror is 'World War III'

 
 
Mistoffelees
16:38 / 06.05.06
I did not put this into Switchboard, because I wanted to write about my reaction to this, and not about possible political reactions.

I only wanted to show you this article and share my reaction of a shock in my guts. Why would this man use this expression 'World War III'? Is he just stupid, insane or does he simply not care, how people would react, if he nonchalantly implies, the third World War has started?

My country right now has the longest period of peace ever, my parents have experienced the last world war and I am not interested at all in experiencing anything like that.

It really dumbfounds me, how the leader of this important nation can make these throwaway remarks (I hope that´s what it was), and he doesn´t even seem to have the notion, that thousands of people all over the world will have nightmares for days to come.

Here´s the article:

President George W. Bush said the September 11 revolt of passengers against their hijackers on board Flight 93 had struck the first blow of "World War III." (...)

But he said he agreed with the description of David Beamer, whose son Todd died in the crash, who in a Wall Street Journal commentary last month called it "our first successful counter-attack in our homeland in this new global war -- World War III".

Bush said: "I believe that. I believe that it was the first counter-attack to World War III."


I have only found this on a couple of news sites, but no "serious" news sites like bbc, reuters or the new york times.

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Jack Denfeld
16:43 / 06.05.06
His term's close to ending, and many American hostorians say he may go down as the worst U.S. president in history. If he got the WW3 thing to stick (which he won't, I'm sure the rest of the world would just look at him funny and go....uhm, ok) at least he'd seem somewhat important in the history books, President of the United States During WW3
 
 
Ganesh
16:50 / 06.05.06
But, of course, it's unlike war in that the Geneva Convention's viewed as conveniently discardable.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
16:52 / 06.05.06
Duh, because it's a new kind of war. It's the war on terror.
 
 
Mistoffelees
16:58 / 06.05.06
f he got the WW3 thing to stick (which he won't, I'm sure the rest of the world would just look at him funny and go....uhm, ok)

That might be it. It´s his "look at me, the brave leader during wartime, just like my dad" routine. Your comment reminds me of the time, he pranced around on that aircraft-carrier in a fighter pilot uniform like a peacock spreading his feathers.

I remember another time, when I felt nauseous, when I saw a similar news story:
Boris Jeltzin was at a public convention on a stage and danced around, obviously drunk. And I thought: "That guy has access to nuclear missiles." and I felt ill.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
17:03 / 06.05.06
Your comment reminds me of the time, he pranced around on that aircraft-carrier in a fighter pilot uniform like a peacock spreading his feathers.
Ugh. On a pure style/theatrics level (I am not a fan of Sadaam's leadership style) Sadaam had more style, and did this first during the war. He was wearing those cool British tailor made suits, and cool hats and umbrellas, and then when the war started he put on the military outfit.

Then Bush tried to do him one bteer with the flight outfit thingie, but it didn't quite work. 1, His suits are kinda boring, 2, It's not cool to put on a military uniform and then never step foot in the country while the war's going on.
 
 
Kiltartan Cross
20:02 / 06.05.06
But, of course, it's unlike war in that the Geneva Convention's viewed as conveniently discardable.
It wasn't adhered to all that closely the last time round, was it?

at least he'd seem somewhat important in the history books, President of the United States During WW3
Huh. It'd be a namby-pamby WW3 that left anyone to do the writing.
 
 
Spaniel
20:11 / 06.05.06
Christ, the man's such a fucking cunt it's unbelievable.

Soooo headspinningly cross!
 
 
Jack Fear
20:23 / 06.05.06
Only World War III?

Some folks reckon we're at leaston IV by now...
 
 
Mistoffelees
20:32 / 06.05.06
It´s weird. When I was searching for other news sites this evening, it was the first time I read about the idea, the cold war could be seen as WW III.
 
 
Jack Fear
20:38 / 06.05.06
You've been cheating yourself, sticking to the liberal mainstream media. USA vs. USSR as WWIII is o-o-o-old news in Reganite-right circles. It was a war, and their boy won it. Or so the thinking goes.
 
 
Mistoffelees
22:09 / 06.05.06
I´ve realised another thing about this. For decades, Berlin was the center of the cold war. The city was crawling with spies from both sides, we had US soldiers stationed in the city, the soviet army surrounded us, and noone here ever thought of cold war = world war III.

Everyone I know thought (and probably still thinks) world war III = nuclear apocalypse.
 
 
■
23:31 / 06.05.06
world war III = nuclear apocalypse.

Yup, we all think that. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if certain important people in DC still think that. Which is why it's so fucking scary that the child in charge of us wants it to have already started. And that HE wants to make sure it keeps going.

Let's just hope it has a happier ending than the 25-year war on drugs. Did you know there are more people in jail in the US on drugs sentences than there are in the whole of Europe for... err... everything?
 
 
Ganesh
01:32 / 07.05.06
It wasn't adhered to all that closely the last time round, was it?

Nope - but the principle was there, at least.
 
 
SMS
02:26 / 07.05.06
many American hostorians say he may go down as the worst U.S. president in history.

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Mistoffelees
11:28 / 07.05.06
Let's just hope it has a happier ending than the 25-year war on drugs. Did you know there are more people in jail in the US on drugs sentences than there are in the whole of Europe for... err... everything?

No, I didn´t. But the US are crazy with their jails and sentences. The three-strikes-out rule is just wrong. And people being thrown in jail for years, only becuase they had a few hits of ecstasy, acid or mj is incredibly wrong. They should look at what mexico now is planning to do.

Here, you almost have to kill someone to get jail time, still we have lower crime rates than the US. We must do something right.

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And that wurst? Maybe not a bad idea, but I wouldn´t eat it.

And I didn´t have any nightmares about WW III tonight. I dreamt about Jack Bauer running amok in a big building, and then eating in a medieval setting at a large wooden table with the cursed landlord. Weird and fun.
 
 
sleazenation
13:10 / 07.05.06
It's at times like this that I have real difficulty imagining what kind of parallel reality many elements of the Bush administration think they inhabit...
 
 
Dead Megatron
15:07 / 07.05.06
It's at times like this that I have real difficulty imagining what kind of parallel reality many elements of the Bush administration think they inhabit...

Me too, but I hear it's called Earth 666 (the natives call it "Planet America", though)
 
 
trouble at bill
15:17 / 07.05.06
indeed, much of it is not uncommon Christian Fundamentalist thinking, I'm told. Regan thought USSR was the Evil Empire which the Old Testament bangs on about somewhere, all that Gog Magog malarchy. Bush seems to have got hold of a more topical version of that.

ps, at the risk of High Pedantry, I don't think there was a Geneva Convention until 1949/50...
 
 
Char Aina
16:10 / 07.05.06
They should look at what mexico now is planning to do.

They did, dude.
They are doing their level best to stop it, short of re-democratising the region in the name of freedomania.
 
 
Hieronymus
17:16 / 07.05.06
Ha! Now they get involved. Fucking typical.
 
 
sleazenation
17:30 / 07.05.06
Umm...no the First Geneva Convention was in 1864... the last ammendment to the Geneva Conventions were in 1949...
 
 
quixote
18:08 / 07.05.06
Maybe I've been hearing too much in Bubble Boy's blatherings, but I'm under the distinct impression that this WWIII stuff is old news. He's seen himself as God's Chosen One leading the people into a New Dawn of Mankind since he started the Great War of Good and Evil. (Caps and gender-specific language intentional....) It's been WWIII for a couple of years, I think, when he's talking to his "base." (They don't call them fundamentalists for nothing.) This just leaked out to Europe, that's all.

Schizophrenics on their meds are less delusional than that guy, but I don't know whether it's comforting or even more scary to know that Cheney's the one with his finger on the button.
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
16:30 / 08.05.06
God, I hate that man. Why have I not moved to Europe yet?
 
 
electric monk
16:38 / 08.05.06
Because running away from problems doesn't solve them?
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
16:43 / 08.05.06
True enough. Though it would be a hell of a lot easier than dealing with him some days.
 
  
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