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Don DeLillo

 
 
buttergun
14:36 / 04.05.06
I just did a search for topics on DeLillo, and was nonplussed to discover there aren't any! So it's up to me to start one...

I've only read a few of his novels: Running Dog (probably my favorite so far), White Noise, Libra, and currently I'm halfway through Amazons, the book he published in 1980 under the psuedonym "Cleo Birdwell." In 1997, when the Viking critical edition of White Noise was being put together, DeLillo called them to request that Amazons NOT be listed in his Bibliography, so he's disowned it. Apparently it's something he wrote with a former co-worker, a lady he worked with back in his advertising days. Seems that DeLillo wrote most of the book (and you can easily tell it's him), with this lady filling in the minor details concerning the main character's small-town life as a child. The book's very good, though, and very funny; a sex-filled "memoir" about the first female hockey player in the US National Hockey League. It also contains the first appearance of Murray Jay Siskind, who went on to get all the good lines in White Noise.

I've read about a hundred pages of Underworld, but for whatever reason just couldn't read anymore. Maybe someday I'll tackle it again.

I plan to start at the beginning, next, and read his first novel, Americana, and then just go from there. Really looking forward to Ratner's Star, which seems to be DeLillo's take on a Gravity's Rainbow-type novel (at least as far as the hard science/math goes).

Speaking of early DeLillo, his short stories are also great. Unfortunately most of them haven't been collected. A few have, particularly "The Uniforms," just one tough bastard of a story. Published in 1970, collected in 1973 in the short story anthology "Cutting Edges" (which you can easily get via InterLibrary Loan, or find for cheap online), it's a short tale about six multinational terrorists (five men, one woman) who kill...well, everyone. It's grim, sadistic, violent. For example, at one point they douse some woman with lighter fluid, then rape her, then set her on fire. Lots of gruesome acts occur, with the "heroes" discussing film as they go along their tasks. In a brief interview with DeLillo at the back of the "Cutting Edges" collection, he reveals that the story is a "short novelization" of the Goddard film "The Weekend." In fact, Goddard is referenced in the story itself. It's too bad DeLillo never wrote a full book like this; it's a perfect example of the forgotten, early '70s "radical" literature (ie Marge Piercy's "Dance the Eagle to Sleep," only more hardcore). But I could see how it would become deadening after a while...the exploits of these 6 terrorists are truly desensitizing.

Anyway, who else is a fan of DeLillo?
 
 
sibyline, beating Qalyn to a Q
17:56 / 04.05.06
I've read "White Noise," "Mao II," and "Underworld." I think "White Noise" is brilliant, especially for its time. It doesn't feel self-conscious in the way that a lot of "postmodern" writing currently is, and manages to be funny and true at the same time.

I didn't really care for "Underworld." I admire it for its technique, especially the opening baseball sequence, but I'm wary of writers (and tend to be men) that try to encompass a theory of everything into one novel. I know this is how novels get hailed as masterpieces, but I find it presumptuous and overbearing.
 
 
Jake, Colossus of Clout
01:41 / 05.05.06
I'm with you on Underworld. Loved the baseball bits (big surprise, I know), but it seemed so self-important and artificial. The characters were terribly unlikable, especially the woman who paints derelict airplanes in the desert (I can't remember anyone's name, sorry... it's been three years or so since I read it). I couldn't identify with a single character in the book, and thus I had no interest in finding out where the story was going. I was about 1/3 of the way through when I put it down for good. It's still on my bookshelf, staring at me- I hate not finishing books, so I kid myself into thinking that someday I'll give it another shot. It was so devoid of passion.
 
 
This Sunday
19:44 / 05.05.06
'Underworld' kills itself with the excellent baseball sequence... and by then detailing how bored and inane people can get. In detail. For quite some page count.

'Whitenoise' and 'Mao II' and 'Libra' are all at least readable one time, which isn't a bad mark, really. I've reread two of them more than once, and 'White Noise' is the only one I'd probably go through cover-to-cover once more... but not for a long while.
 
 
Sina Other
13:39 / 10.05.06
I really enjoyed Cosmopolis for it's mile-wide mystic streak, and End Zone for the unreal atmosphere and hilarious dialogue. I'm not too good at synopses, but I've reread them both more than his other work, and they're a lot lighter than Underworld (physically I mean, not philosophically). Really good tasters.
 
 
Disco is My Class War
12:25 / 11.05.06
Underworld payts off persistence, I think. I read it again recently and realised that the key to the book is, it moves backwards in time. (That's obvious, okay.) So, you know what happened, and you begin to understand the important events that are shaping the characters as they act through the first half, but you have to get to the end to really know. Back to the parts set in the New York of the 1950's and 60's, back to the shooting of George Manza, back to the stuff about sunbaking on roofs. Also, there's this amazing sequence about 50's jello salads in moulds somewhere in there which is almost better (and shorter) than the baseball bit.

I also don't think Underworld's a 'theory of everything' novel. It's just long.

Has anyone read The Names? It freaked me the fuck out, but I liked it a lot. But my absolute favourite De Lillo sequence is the subway section of Libra. I used to copy it out longhand to learn how he made that syntax work.
 
 
pickle doodle
04:48 / 18.05.06
Funny, I've only read 3/4 of White Noise but I thought the dialogue was too contrived at times to the point where it was unbearable, regardless of whether or not it was another technique. I'd nod along to most of the points he'd raise but never felt compelled to feel anything for the characters or the plot.

I'd be willing to give him another chance but I'm under the impression that general consensus says that White Noise is his best work yet, so...
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
07:59 / 18.05.06
For what it's worth, I adored Underworld but found White Noise borderline unreadable. So I'd say there's a big difference between them. White Noise is horribly reminiscent of all those dreadful "here is a novel about a middle-aged academic's sex drive and how it relates to America's loss of innocence blah blah" authors (Updike, Irving, some Roth), whereas I found Underworld to be the antidote to that (because it actually has some fucking aspirations to scope and range and seeing past a gone-to-seed white guy's intellectual navel).
 
 
This Sunday
08:55 / 18.05.06
I think the trick to enjoying 'White Noise' is in presuming the protagonist is as much an idiot as the other characters. The porn reading bit, the most photographed... and so on. Idiot. But an idiot who spends all his time thinking he's clearly above it all.

And, y'know, Hitler Studies.
 
 
buttergun
12:34 / 18.05.06
I still think the second "book" of White Noise, which details the "toxic incident" and the family's escape from it, is the highlight of the book, and one of the best things DeLillo's written. Also really enjoy how he fits the deja vu bits in there, which jump out at you when you least expect it. Fine, funny writing.

Just read another rare early DeLillo story, "In the Men's Room of the 16th Century," which was published in Esquire in 1971, republished in The Secret Life of Our Times Esquire collection in 1973, and another collection, Esquire's Big Book of Fiction, in 2002. Very baroque tale about a cop who dresses in drag and goes under the name Lady Madonna, prowling the streets and helping those in need. Mostly just a bunch of Catholic/religous/philosophical discussions he has with riff-raff on the streets. Very guilty of what DeLillo's most accused of -- thin characters who you care little for.

Amazons turned out to be okay, but pretty lightweight. Just the main character having sex with about every guy she meets. It got to be an in-joke after a while. She'd meet a guy, joke with him a while, hear a weird story or two, and then the chapter would end with them having sex. I guess it was DeLillo's attempt at an adult sex/comedy novel?
 
 
alas
22:55 / 18.05.06
I thought Underworld needed an editor and did reinforce a white male world view--the wife in the novel is...awful, and the affair is resolved in a very male bonding sort of way. It's also pretty humorless--the Lenny Bruce sections don't even work as humor. I did like the baseball sections, which is very strange because a baseball fan I am not, and the section where the kid is videotaping the highway shooting seemed to have its finger on the pulse of the way pop culture works--but...I didn't feel like it ultimately offered very much in return for all its bulk.

A few summers ago I refinished a table by hand and listened to The Body Artist on tape read by Laurie Anderson. It was a hypnotic and very physical experience. I liked it, but I'm not sure I would have liked it as much reading it with the voice in my head, or while doing just the drive to work. If that makes sense. It was listening while working with the wood--stripping off the old finish, sanding, putting on new finish, while reading.

I also liked White Noise quite a bit--but I have a soft spot for those academic novels, which is no doubt pure narcissism. However, I do read it also as being very much of its time--about fear of AIDS in the 1980s, the fierce blankness of the virus and the ignorance and pettiness of the comfortable, wealthy, educated people in the face of it.
 
 
buttergun
12:55 / 15.06.06
Read more early DeLillo over the past few days...

End Zone: DeLillo's second novel, from 1972. Ostensibly about small-town college football in West Texas (at the fictional Logos College), but really a parable about nuclear war. First-person narrative by main character Gary Harkness, a football player who is consumed with speculation on nuclear war and radioactive fallout. The New York Times raved about the book when it was released, but reading it now, it just doesn't compare to the other DeLillo books I've read. It's no Running Dog, and certainly no White Noise, even though Harkness shares many similarities with White Noise's Jack Gladney. There's a few high-action football games (including an extra-long chapter of one, as well as one that takes place sans-helmets and pads in a snowstorm), a war game scenario Harkness plays with a matter-of-fact Air Force lieutenant, and the usual darkly-comedic DeLillo philosophy. There are also way too many characters who pop up long enough to say one line, then disappear. But mostly, the book is too short, and feels unfinished. It seems more like a novella. I enjoyed it, but not as much as I wanted to.

Baghdad Towers West: A DeLillo short story from 1968, never collected. Similar to End Zone in many ways, though it's about a guy who just wants to sleep, obsessing over the three young women who used to live in the condo he now rents at Baghdad Towers West. Has some great theories/fantasies about the joys of slumber, but really comes off as more of a character story...only the characters aren't all that involving.

I have several more DeLillo short stories I'm about to read. I found all you have to do is give your local library the magazine issue you're looking for, and the pages the stories are on, and via the magic of InterLibrary Loan they can get the libraries to make photocopies and mail you the stories...all for free. Gotta love that price.
 
 
buttergun
18:15 / 22.06.06
More DeLillo short stories:

The River Jordan: DeLillo's first published story (Epoch 10, never collected), from 1960, when he was 24 years old. Third-person portrait of the 70-year old Emil Burke, leader of the Psychic Church of the Crucified Christ, who has a small cadre of followers. The events span one day, with Burke first writing signs in the subway, then preaching to an uninterested crowd at night. Ends with Burke's financial backer leaving him to pursue more interesting/lucrative fringe religions. An uneven story; forgivable, since it was the first output of a very fruitful writing career. But still...it's hard to tell if DeLillo intends us to sympathize with Burke (as the meat of the story would suggest) or ridicule him (as the end of the story would suggest).

Take the "A" Train: DeLillo's second story, from 1962. First published in Epoch 12 (Spring 1962), collected in the rare "Stories from Epoch," edited by Baxter Hathaway and published in 1964 (sidenote -- the book also contains Pynchon's first story, "Mortality and Mercy in Vienna," which did not appear in the Pynchon short story collection "Slow Learner"). Third-person tale of Cavallo, a way down-on-his-luck loser who owes money everywhere. To evade his debts he takes to the subway, wondering how long he can live on the trains. Most of the story is related via Cavallo reminiscing: his elaborate wedding, his failed marriage, his overbearing father. A very downbeat, depressing tale, with no resolution.

Baghdad Towers West: From Epoch 17, published 1968, never collected. First-person story from a nameless narrator, obsessing/reminiscing about the three women who lived in the New York apartment he now rents. Parts of the story are great (such as the author's great interest in sleeping; he figures himself a sleeping connoisseur), others not so hot (the three women are a bit uninvolving, with the usual small-town-girl-in-the-big-city backstories). Has a funny ending in which the narrator attempts to initiate group sex with the women, with humorous results.

Creation: From Antaeus 33, published Spring 1979, never collected. First-person recount of a couple vacationing on a Caribbean island, and their desperate attempts to get back home. The island has only one airline, which is the definition of unreliable. Eventually the narrator's girlfriend is able to leave, as only one seat is available, and she has an important meeting to get to in New York. The narrator remains behind, in no hurry to leave, and has an affair with a German woman named Christa who seems to be on the run from someone or something. The tale is left open-ended and unresolved.

Human Moments in World War III: A fantastic story, first published in the July 1983 issue of Esquire, later collected in three books: "Great Esquire Fiction: The Finest Stories from the First Fifty Years" (1983); "Lust, Violence, Sin, Magic: 60 Years of Esquire Fiction" (1994), and "American Gothic Tales" (1996). The story is recounted in first person by a nameless narrator, who is stationed aboard a "recon-interceptor" spacecraft which orbits the Earth. Their mission is to monitor enemy troop activity and occasionally fire the spacecraft's lasers at planetside objects. So yes, this is a rare entry into the sci-fi genre for DeLillo, though the story is recounted in a run-of-the-mill style; the setting, the war, the spacecraft are all everyday things for the narrator. Not true for his shipmate Vollmer, however, who raises all the Big Issue questions, much to the narrator's dismay, who just wants to keep things on a mundane, everyday level. Not much happens in the story: they observe the Earth, they practice a laser-firing drill, they talk to Colorado Command. But still it’s a compelling tale, with the narrator dwelling on the Earth, on war, and on "human moments." Features a great scene where they somehow pick up "signals from radio programs of forty, fifty, sixty years ago." Ghostly transmissions which come in clearer and clearer; a haunting scene. The book cries to be extrapolated as a full-on novel, but I doubt this is something DeLillo will ever do.
 
 
COG
13:34 / 24.06.07
I've just finished my second DeLillo book, Libra (the first was Americana). I enjoyed this one much more than the first which just seemed to fizzle out at the end. Perhaps this is because Libra has the built in climax of the JFK shooting. Not giving anything away here, as the main character is Lee Harvey Oswald. I really liked the parts covering Oswald's early life and also his army career in Japan and his life in Russia. Maybe having real people to base the book on helped DeLillo to write interesting characters this time. I've read in this thread that this can be a weak point of his. I shall see if anymore of his books pass through my local library.

There were lots of great passages of description, really short and tight. Just the right words to conjure up a strong image. I was going to quote something here but I realise I took the book back already. I noticed it much more this time than with Americana.

I usually hate endings of books or films or anything really. Things normally seem rushed and contorted to fit everything in. This ending was great though. The whole Dallas shooting broken up into fragments and impressions, lots of different viewpoints. It suited the feeling of the event perfectly. Also he manages to write it through the lens of how we view the event now, in film and TV clips, photos, snatches of recorded sound.

He has lots to say about the CIA and the murky workings of government and power structures. How men think that they are in control of something but the world turns out to be bigger than them.
 
  
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