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"Magickal intertwinings"

 
 
Anthony
17:57 / 03.05.06
cf: aleister crowley on Atu VI the lovers - what is the deal with this recently? i've heard a lot of negative stuff said about magickal intertwinings....?

Keeping it real since 6/6/1993
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
20:44 / 03.05.06
[Mod hat] Anth, can you please expand on that for us? It's not clear what you're trying to ask.

I'm assuming that "what is the deal with this recently?" means that something about Crowley's comments on The Lovers seems relevent to you right now. What, exactly, and why?

You say also that you've "heard a lot of negative stuff said about magickal intertwinings" but you don't tell us anything about this negative stuff, what sort of context you heard it in, or, indeed, what you mean by "magickal intertwinings."

You've also neglected to write a topic summary. We do ask that everyone starting a thread writes a summary--this helps to keep other posters focused on your chosen topic and the thread doesn't get derailed as easily. I think it would also help you to order your thoughts.
 
 
Unconditional Love
22:38 / 03.05.06
"There is an Assyrian legend of a woman with a fish, and also there is a legend of Eve and the Serpent, for Cain was the child of Eve and the Serpent, and not of Eve and Adam; and therefore when he had slain his brother, who was the first murderer, having sacri ficed living things to his demon, had Cain the mark upon his brow, which is the mark of the Beast spoken of in the Apocalypse, and is the sign of Initiation.

"The shedding of blood is necessary, for God did not hear the children of Eve until blood was shed. And that is external religion; but Cain spake not with God, nor had the mark of initiation upon his brow, so that he was shunned of all men, until he had shed blood.

And this blood was the blood of his brother. This is a mystery of the sixth key of the Tarot, which ought not to be called The Lovers, but The Brothers.

"In the middle of the card stands Cain; in his right hand is the Hammer of Thor with which he hath slain his brother, and it is all wet with his blood. And his left hand he holdeth open as a sign of innocence. On his right hand is his mother Eve, around whom the serpent is entwined with his hood spread behind her head; and on his left hand is a figure somewhat like the Hindoo Kali, but much more seductive. Yet I know it to be Lilith. And above him is the Great Sigil of the Arrow, downward, but it is struck through the heart of the child. This child also is Abel. And the meaning of this part of the card is obscure, but that is the correct drawing of the Tarot card; and that is the correct magical fable from which the Hebrew scribes, who were not complete Initiates, stole their legend of the Fall and the subsequent events."

By A crowley, please dont B crowley.

Best to also read the cards either side of the lovers to get relational perspective to its place in the sequence of initiation/lifes journey.
 
 
ghadis
23:28 / 03.05.06
And this blood was the blood of his brother. This is a mystery of the sixth key of the Tarot, which ought not to be called The Lovers, but The Brothers.


That's really interesting WolfAngel888. Can you explain a bit more what you mean by that.
 
 
ghadis
23:38 / 03.05.06
And by that i mean. 'What the fuck does that mean?!!,

What do you think?

Crowley aside for the moment.
 
 
Unconditional Love
12:29 / 04.05.06
Imagine in the womb twins, imagine one twin dies and the dna of the other twin is absorbed and reintegrated into the remaining foetus.

Each view point begats the exsistence of its opposite, which must be synthesised through a primal instinct, but to first do this a cuting or death must take place, so that another may be sought to fulfill the loss.

whom is cut away from the groom at marriage? The Best man is bested for further fruit.
 
 
ghadis
12:37 / 04.05.06
Cheers WolfAngel. I'm starting to get my head round the idea a bit more now.
 
 
Quantum
13:19 / 04.05.06
Hm. Or the Lovers could primarily represent people in love. Wacky interpretation I know.
 
  
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