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Inspiration

 
 
All Acting Regiment
12:28 / 26.04.06
So everybody talks about inspiration, but what exactly is it? Can it be quanitified? Can you be inspired by anything? Are things universally inspirational, that is, do they have the same effect on everyone who looks at them?
 
 
Jack Fear
20:29 / 26.04.06
Inspiration is an excuse that lazy people use for failure to Do The Fucking Work.
 
 
enrieb
21:25 / 26.04.06
I found this definition at Wilkipedia

The stimulating influence upon the intellect or emotions leading to creativity.

Given this definition, I would say there is a greater chance of a person becoming inspired when they actually have some intellect or emotions with which to be inspired.

Though something’s may be very inspirational to a large cross section of people, I do not think inspiration in any one thing will be completely universal. I expect most people are inspired by the birth of their own child, if that’s not just natural selection kicking in.

To some people a sunset can give beauty to a picturesque landscape, begging to be immortalised on canvas, or given voice through poetry, to others it’s just the end of another day.
 
 
Shrug
23:36 / 26.04.06
I'm going with Jack on this one. Inspiration comes from intelligent consideration of a subject, knowing what went into it and understanding the concepts wholly. If you can't do this, you're more awed than inspired. And awe doesn't lead to creativity just flummoxedness. (maybe)
 
 
Alex's Grandma
00:05 / 27.04.06
Yeah, but JF, isn't the 90% of perspiration without the 10% of inspiration a bit like Frankenstein's monster without the lightning?
 
 
Jack Fear
00:24 / 27.04.06
Perspiration generates its own inspiration. You cannot see it unless you do the work of looking; you cannot hear it unless you shut up and listen.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
01:18 / 27.04.06
Well up to a point, I suppose. But hard work is only a means to an end.
 
 
Jack Fear
10:30 / 27.04.06
Depends on the nature of the project, really. I would argue that art by its definition tends to be process-oriented, i.e., the fun is in the doing of it, rather than in thinking of the end product. So the end and the means are pretty much the same thing.

I mean, if the project is to produce a functional object, like a gargoyle to camouflage a downspout, then yeah, you need to keep that goal, that end, in mind. But the artistry of such a project lies precisely in the application of "useless" beauty to the project. There's no "inspiration" involved—only adherence to a technical specification on the one hand, and fucking around until the thing looks good on the other.

You may have an idea of how you'd like it to look in the end, but that idea, too, is the product of hard work—of observation, of variation, of trial and error.
 
 
Sekhmet
12:40 / 27.04.06
There's another meaning of the word "inspiration", and I feel that it's related. It's "the drawing in of breath".

To the ancients, "breath" was synonymous with "spirit" or "soul". Breath is life, breath is thought, breath is energy and power. You have to breathe in before a word can be uttered or a note can be blown. And I don't know about anyone else, but when I'm really concentrating on writing or very involved in an art piece, I tend to draw in breath and hold it for protracted periods.

Inspiration is receiving an influx of spirit, an injection of the divine, into one's self. Creative action is the expiration, the breathing out, of that divine essence.

'Nother words, inspiration is that which temporarily turns you into a God creating your own universe.
 
 
GogMickGog
14:31 / 27.04.06
That's true, and a lot of people talk about the creative urge in terms of posession. There's a lovely moment in one of Bill Hick's letters (in "Love all the people") where he's writing, I think, to a priest about religion. He talks about the linguistic roots of 'enthusiasm'- how the Greek root is something like 'en theos', the God within, and that this is the closest he himself comes to a spiritual feeling. I can certainly identify with that feeling- when it does come, I have so little control, just feel the need to be writing..

Ol' Peter Whitehead attributes this all to the 5th dimension and various psychopharmacological methods..call for a new thread, perhaps?
 
 
foolish fat finger
22:13 / 27.04.06
I agree- inspiration for me is hearin the Magnificent Creator of All whispering in my ear...

personally, I am an idiot. "I" have written great poems, songs, made incredible art (not just by my own opinion). as I am an idiot in all my self-directed doings, I have to give credit for all my art to God. my only talent is being able to hear His/Her directions... and fulfil them as best I can...
 
 
enrieb
22:51 / 27.04.06
In this thread, I assumed at first that inspiration can be good or creative, I would like to suggest that on the other side of the coin, people can be inspired to destroy and also to hate.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
23:01 / 27.04.06
I also sometimes feel driven to do (good? Bad? It's all relative really, isn't it?) things by a higher power than myself, but I don't think that makes me a bad person.
 
 
Jack Fear
00:47 / 28.04.06
No, it just makes makes you a coward.

Take responsibility for your own actions. All of them. Good as well as bad.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
01:47 / 28.04.06
I'm not particularly sure why.

JF, what's wrong with thinking of a great idea, say the moooted gargoyle, hovering over the dirty city, depressed, and then running with the ball, as it were?

You'd have to have the idea in the first place, I guess -
I'm not sure if your thoughts about this (and I by no means intend this as a personal crit, or anything,) aren't just a bit, y'know, 'James Joyce should have got a proper job,' seeing as what practical function did his so-called 'art' serve, etc
 
 
Jack Fear
11:27 / 28.04.06
You misunderstand me. I'm not saying that art has to have a useful purpose. That's a side argument.

What I *am* saying is that, in art, the "end" is usually less important than the "means."

You'd have to have the idea in the first place...

Aaaaaaaand here we reach the crux of it.

You seem to have a bicameral, compartmentalized view of art—that it starts with an idea, which comes from Out There Somewhere, leaping into the artist's mind more or less fully-formed; and then comes the physical labor of translating that idea into reality.

What I'm telling you is that it generally doesn't happen that way. I'm saying that ideas come through the work itself. The physical reality of the work and the mental landscape of "ideas" cannot be separated.

Here's how it works.

A sculptor has her hands wet in the clay, fucking around, pushing and pulling as it pleases her with no particular product in mind. Interesting shapes happen, and she helps them to happen. An image grows clearer in her mind even as it grows clearer in the clay.

A composer lets his hands wander idly over the keyboard, trying different combinatons of chords, just to see what will happen. Some days, hours pass and he plays nothing worth remembering. Today he plays a phrase from an old folk song, then plays melodic variations on it—inverts it, re-harmonizes it, extends it, mashes it around for a while. Then he puts down the lid on his piano and goes into the kitchen to fix dinner. He hasn't written anything down. An hour later, while he's chopping carrots, he finds himself humming one of the variations.

A writer wakes early every morning to write in her journal. That's her bargain with herself—three pages, longhand, every morning, with no expectations and no goal. One morning she looks back at what she's just written and sees four words strung together in a way that rings her chimes. That'd make a good title, she thinks, and she draws a circle around the phrase, and she keeps writing. And for six months, or six years, nothing much appears to happen. She continues to show up every morning and write her three pages. And one day, she goes back through her journals and gleans a phrase here, a line there, an event here—and she has the seeds of a novel. Not a whole novel, fully-conceived, but a notion that will grow as she tells it. Her characters will do things that she does not anticipate: her plot will go in unknown directions. She will keep writing and sort it out later. She will keep writing.

That's how it works.

My beef with the idea of inspiration—the reason that I think it is such a pernicious and destructive myth—is that it keeps people from doing art. "I can't write songs / paint / write poetry," goes the refrain. "I don't have anything to say. I don't have any ideas. If only I had inspiration, then I'd..."

And so they don't start. Which means they never finish.

I've heard artists say that you have to draw a hundred terrible pictures before you draw a good one. And that is true. What's different about the hundredth picture is not that suddenly the Light From Heaven comes puring down into your head and out the end of your pencil: what's different is that all your experience, all your observation, all your errors—all your work—comes to a head in your 100th picture. Which is marginally better than your 99th, and not as good as your 101st. But the myth of "inspiration" keeps people from drawing their first picture, let alone their 99th.

It's an awful, poisonous mental construct. It arises from the laziness of the novice (who wants the results without the effort), but also from the fear of failure—and so it can cripple even people who have done the work, miring them deep in writer's block or artistic stagnation. It takes courage to stare it down, to accept the responsibility for everything you create—that you create—for good or bad, to stop giving the credit or the blame to the Breath Of God, or the Muse, or the 5D Ideasmiths Of Memespace.

It's a high hurdle to get over, so deeply culturally ingrained is this notion—but it's got to be done, if you want to be steady, productive, and sane—working in harmony with the creative process. And once you're over it, you wonder why anybody ever buys into it: Why conceive of yourself as being at the mercy of terrible forces that you cannot control?

Why would you wish to imagine yourself as so powerless? Why would you wish to imagine yourself as dependent on the whims of some outside force? Why would you prefer that to being an independent, autonomous operator?
 
 
Sekhmet
13:27 / 28.04.06
What I'm telling you is that it generally doesn't happen that way. I'm saying that ideas come through the work itself. The physical reality of the work and the mental landscape of "ideas" cannot be separated.

Hmm. I agree with you up to a point, Jack. Most (but not all) "inspiration" does seem to arrive out of process. Very rarely do people have creations spring from their heads fully-fledged, like Athena in her armor. I don't think you're saying that this never happens, but that that isn't always necessary to in order to create. And that's true.

On the other paw, what is it that gets the artist/writer/composer to sit down and put pencil to paper in the first place? One might argue that the drive to make the attempt, the desire to create, is inspiration in itself. Not only that, but the little ideas and impulses that arise during the work, that prompt the writer to adjust a turn of phrase or the sculptor to smooth out the design - those are inspiration too. Every part of the creative process, even the smallest, arises out of inspiration. The process is inspiration and expiration, breathing in and out. You don't just breathe in once, cough it all up, and call it a day.

I think perhaps you're reacting to the fact that people have conflated inspiration with genius. You don't have to be a Genius to create art, and you don't have to have some Grand Design downloaded into your mind from the aether. Inspiration can come as tiny, nearly imperceptible whispers as well as gale-force winds.
 
 
Jack Fear
13:54 / 28.04.06
The vast majority of what you're defining as "inspiration" is really just observation—and that, too, is part of the process, part of the work. Observation is a learnable skill—that anyone can learn—and not a line to the Outer Planes that you either have or you don't.

What makes a person sit down to create in the first place? Desire. Which is a whole different thing from inspiration, and which doesn't really enter into this discussion. We're not talking about the why, but about the how.
 
 
Sekhmet
15:10 / 28.04.06
I understand your objection to the idea that "I don't have any inspiration" is a reason not to get off your ass and do something. But I'm not sure the proper response is to object categorically to any use of the word, which is what you seem to be doing.

Why not redefine it instead? Refine the usage and reclaim it from the popular misuse against which you're rebelling?

It seems to me that you're fighting the word when what you should be fighting is the associations, and a refusal to engage with the word at all seems to me like a rather bassackwards way to go about it.
 
 
Jack Fear
15:54 / 28.04.06
Oh, I'm not even denying the classic usage of the word. I am a mystic by nature: I believe in direct, unmediated contact with the numinous. And I believe that mystical experiences can lead to the creation of art.

I just don't think that it's anywhere near as common as people say, and that most of what people think is coming at them is in fact coming from them.
 
 
Jack Fear
15:55 / 28.04.06
(Incidentally, I was amused by your use of the word "genius" a few posts above. Genius originally meant a benevolent spirit-creature that aided exceptionally clever or creative people—a meaning that sort of survives in the words "genie." The Romans believed in inspiration of exactly the sort I'm pooh-poohing—as an outside influence from the spirit world. When they said somone had "a genius for painting," they literally meant that an invisible supernatural creature hovered nearby him, guiding his brush. When they said somone was a genius in painting, they were spekaing figuratively, just as we might say "He is a god" when what we mean is that he has godlike abilities. As often happens, the corrupted figurative meaning drove out the literal.)
 
 
Sekhmet
17:23 / 28.04.06
Good point! And you're wlecome to interpret my usage of the term "genius" in its modern or its classical sense; I rather enjoy that it retains meaning either way.

I just don't think that it's anywhere near as common as people say, and that most of what people think is coming at them is in fact coming from them.

Agreed on both counts.

I usually consider human nature to be inseparable from the divine, though, so to me the distinction between at and from may or may not be a useful one. Within and without are points on a continuum, rather than a dichotomous opposition. In theory, at any rate.

Very occasionally I produce something at which I blink in disbelief - not only do I not know where it came from, I don't know how I did it, and I have no memory of the process... And other times I just fuck around with something until I'm likewise impressed with the results, but it's definitely due to applied skill and conscious effort rather than some sort of ecstatic creative frenzy. So your point is very well taken.
 
 
astrojax69
20:48 / 28.04.06
enrieb above wrote about wikipeadia's definition The stimulating influence upon the intellect or emotions leading to creativity.

Given this definition, I would say there is a greater chance of a person becoming inspired when they actually have some intellect or emotions with which to be inspired.


the muse. some intellectual converstaion, some engagement, with a person who also inspires some deep emotional response (not nec 'love' in the 'who's your demanding lover' sense of it) i have found there have been phases in my life when i have been able to clearly identify my muse - though never to the person, i must say. what does that tell me? - and my writing in each occasion has most definitely grown and developed in significant ways.

but not all creations come from the muse, not directly mebbe. i also find the very collection of letters, words, to be themselves inspiring. the journal writer in jack's long post who is inspired by her own words is an example, but i can be inspired by overheard conversation, something i read on a billboard, a blackboard or in a book.

and sometimes, inspiration comes from watching ants and wondering. often then, inspiration is its own reward and fosters no creative output for anyone else to see.
 
 
Jack Fear
20:57 / 28.04.06
= Observation. Call a spade a spade.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
02:04 / 30.04.06
You seem to have a bicameral, compartmentalized view of art—that it starts with an idea, which comes from Out There Somewhere, leaping into the artist's mind more or less fully-formed; and then comes the physical labor of translating that idea into reality.

Well, yes and no. I was admittedly being slighly facetious when implying that ideas 'come from the gods,' or wherever - who knows where they come from, but I'd personally find it very difficult to sit down and write anything unless there was an initial spark, breath of life or whatever, as to where the whole thing was going, who was in it, and what it was all to be about. The creative process seems interesting and worth doing at least in part because you're never quite sure how it's going to turn out, but (and while I do see what you're saying here, anything that gets in the way of the actual writing is to be avoided,) I'm still a bit uncomfortable with any view of the creative endeavour that errs (in my opinion) too much on the side of viewing all this as a matter of craft. It's not - good, bad or indifferent, if you're engaged in the business of self-expression (I know this sounds terribly pretentious, but I should probably persist,) I sort of do feel it's important to take your ideas seriously, to be strict about that. You don't seem to be distinguishing much between an artist who keeps a sketchbook, or a novelist who keeps a diary (both solid pursuits) and someone who sits down, having done that, and sets out to bring their great idea into the world. Those experiences would seem to me, anyway, to be very different.

Also reasonably sure that we're not talking at massive cross-purposes here - I just don't see your problem with the idea of a flash of thought that shows up in about ten seconds, which you're then happy enough to devote a couple of years trying to realise. It does happen. honest.
 
  
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