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Sigil Exchange 2002

 
 
The_Player
09:30 / 24.03.02
Hi everybody!

One little idea has been floating up my mind the last couple of days: the biggest problem with sigils is forgetting for what they are, right? So, what if we just exchange our sigils with other 'lithers around?

Let's say, for example, that I can activate 2 sigils a week. I will take these two sigils, activate them, and pass two of my sigils to others 'lithers (maybe the same that I take the sigils from). Since I won't know for what the sigils are, I won't have expectations about the results, making the "magickal energies" stronger...

Of course, this will have to be based in trust and responsability; if I take 2 sigils to activate, I will have to activate them anyway, because I'll know there will be another(s) person(s) doing the same for me...

Ideas, thoughts, critics? Shoot them!

Player
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
09:30 / 24.03.02
I like this idea a LOT and would be willing to activate one for someone...and I'll post one of mine once I get my scanner working. ^_^

Who else is willing to play with this experiment?
 
 
Rev. Wright
09:30 / 24.03.02
quote: Who else is willing to play with this experiment ?


HHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmm???????
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
10:06 / 24.03.02
I think of all of my sigil work as both and experiment and fun. Playing around, trying things out, seeing what happens. Sorry if it came off as me being frivilous.
 
 
Rev. Wright
10:49 / 24.03.02
quote: Of course, this will have to be based in trust and responsability

quote: I think of all of my sigil work as both and experiment and fun. Playing around, trying things out, seeing what happens
 
 
the rake at the gates
20:53 / 24.03.02
sure im up for this, will be an interesting experiment into sigils and if you need to know what they mean to charge them.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
12:48 / 25.03.02
will it work wright?: I can appreciate your concerns, but I don't think the concept of trust and responsibility in a magickal experiment of this nature is necessarily at odds with the idea of having fun with magick.

As I said in Vampbears' FUN!!! thread:

quote:Fun is the best buddy of the brainstormer, the freedom to voice the wildest, craziest ideas without fear or favour, because it doesn't matter if the idea is crazy- we're just having Fun!

That doesn't mean we shouldn't put our responsible heads back on when the time comes to put things into action.

Also, when charging someone else's sigil, it's not only possible but advisable to get hold of your conscience and go "Look, mate, I'm going to be charging this person's sigil. Make sure everything's on the up-and-up, eh?" That way, if somebody's innocent "new job" sigil is actually meant to make hir ex contract an embarrassing skin condition, the magickal energy can be diverted before it does any harm. (Exactly where it gets diverted is up to you.)
 
 
Rev. Wright
13:13 / 25.03.02
It is a valid idea, to be interacting, but my concern is that most exchanges occur between a group of practitioners that know each other, practice together and have regular face to face contact. This builds up a picture and understanding of their intent, which is highly important.
Sigil charging is relatively simple, but I question the nature of intent that someone could have, not just to do some revenge tactic on an ex, but real serious damage.
Its not that I'm paranoid, but merely aware that not only of what some people may have the intent to do, but also how trollish behaviour is attracted to internet sites.
And would spend more time checking out teh sigil before working with it.

I query the virtual relationship and potential for harm, with such an endeavour.
I was also thrown by my reading of two seperate posters.
harmony in such projects relies on sympathetic vibrations.

Just a cautionary approach.
 
 
Rev. Jesse
13:34 / 25.03.02
I think this is a genius step up from asking "can you charge this sigil please" because it encourages us to be balanced and methodical, not just in crafting our own sigils, but also in assisting each other. I have been having a very hard time with sigils because of the emotional nature of what I have been enchanting for recently, so trading off would be a good way to help me overcome that.

Anyone have a ftp or a website we can post these to? I should be emailing these sigils?

-Jesse
 
 
Ierne
13:47 / 25.03.02
It's not that I'm paranoid, but merely aware that not only of what some people may have the intent to do, but also how trollish behaviour is attracted to internet sites.
And would spend more time checking out the sigil before working with it. –will it work wright?


I agree with will here – before investing one's energy into another's working it is important to know exactly what sort of working it is. This can be very difficult to discern in a virtual or online situation.

A possible way around that is to ensure that your energy – which is what you are ultimately responsible for – is sent out with balanced and harmonious intent. The risk of putting energy into a potentially disagreeable situation is still there, but minimized to an extent. Some people are uncomfortable even with minimized risk, and that's understandable.

I was also thrown by my reading of two seperate posters...harmony in such projects relies on sympathetic vibrations. – will it work wright?

Again, I see will's point re: knowing who and what you're dealing with before working Magick with other people. An online envronment is far more nebulous than face-to-face interaction; a lot of helpful cues are missing, and all one really has to go on are what one posts and how one treats one's fellow posters. It's a lot easier to BS and pretend one is more knowledgeable than one is online, and some people take advantage of that.
 
 
Bear
14:07 / 25.03.02
"It's a lot easier to BS and pretend one is more knowledgeable than one is online, and some people take advantage of that"

Thats the opposite of me, I put on this fake low intelligence act but in fact I'm actually a God...

But I'd be up for this I have the perfect thing I need charged and it couldn't be more good if I tried, go on do a reading on me I dare ya, consults the stars, ask your cat...

So um yeah thats an aye from me.....
 
 
The_Player
15:50 / 25.03.02
quote:Originally posted by Mordant C@rnival:
That doesn't mean we shouldn't put our responsible heads back on when the time comes to put things into action.

Also, when charging someone else's sigil, it's not only possible but advisable to get hold of your conscience and go "Look, mate, I'm going to be charging this person's sigil. Make sure everything's on the up-and-up, eh?" That way, if somebody's innocent "new job" sigil is actually meant to make hir ex contract an embarrassing skin condition, the magickal energy can be diverted before it does any harm. (Exactly where it gets diverted is up to you.)[/QB]


Exactly what I think, Mordant. I put in the beggining of the thread "trust and responsability" in the sense of

a) if you said you can charge a sigil (or more) in a week, and somebody else puts hir trust in you, you now have to make it;

b) if you think the sigil is going to be harmful to someone, it can divert the complete flux of energies. When I had this idea, I was thinking about desperate situations, in wich you can't avoid to think of, like some relative/love sick, or unemployment, or to feel depressed, sick etc.

To distribute the sigils, I was thinking that someone could disponibilize hir e-mail from, let's say, Friday from Sunday to receive messages from the 'lithers saying how many sigils (s)he can sigilize the next week;

Then, I`ll post a list in this thread (on Monday) with the "available sigilizers";

And then, the 'lithers could e-mail themselves, or exchange messages in this thread, asking for some of the sigilizers to take one of their sigils. I think Wednesday is good to be a "day-limit" for the exchange of sigils.

Everybody that accepts to help should take the responsability to energize them until the end of the week (i. e. Sunday).

Should I say that the participants must have ethics to not make "harmful sigils"?

And, to end, this is a experience anyway. Maybe we should try little, easy sigils to see how the things go on.

Player
 
  
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