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My teenage manifesto

  
 
sn00p
21:42 / 18.03.06
http://mltmanifesto.blogspot.com/

This is a new blog im doing, it's documenting my attempts to cause quantifiable changes in my life by the time im 20.

So i was wondering if you could all have a look and tell me what you think?

And also, i was wondering if anyone has any suggestions on 23 different ways to charge sigils?

thank you.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
22:01 / 18.03.06
Masturbation, defectation, inebriation, meditation, copulation, repetition and really severe period cramps. I hear bungee jumping is good, but I got bored'v sigils before I tried that.

Seriously, sigils aren't that much fun after a while. They get boring. How about 23 different techniques, including a few quote-mundane-unquote methods? I'd love to read that.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
22:03 / 18.03.06
(PS: if that sounded snarky, it's just because I'm technically evil. I really would like to see this project succeed.)
 
 
sn00p
22:19 / 18.03.06
Actualy yeah, that does sound good.

I was using sigils to try and keep it simple.

23 intents, 23 different techniques?

It'd be an exercise in training too... hmm.

It didn't sound snary either, thanks.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
22:31 / 18.03.06
Seriously, you could have SO much fun with that. Ritualising everyday activities, like a trip to the supermarket. I'd love to read the story of a budding magician experimenting with all kinds of different stuff: dressing up like a martian and running down the high street for one intent, reading to someone in hospital for another, spending a night in a graveyard for another, seeing how far you could walk in a day for something else. Backing it all up with some good solid basic ritual, like the Lesser Banishing Rite of the Pentegram every morning or something.

Potentially awesome.
 
 
assayudin
02:24 / 19.03.06
Potentially very awesome! That could be a great experience.
 
 
sn00p
07:58 / 19.03.06
That does sound awesome.

I chose sigils for two reasons:
1) They always work for me.
2) As far as "spell casting" goes, it's all I’ve really got experience with.

How about, i form a full-blown ritual around each intent.
Using visualised sigils, props, magical trances, dreaming, drugs, gods and word spells.
This should give a more interesting read, and hopefully make my spells more potent.

What do you think?
Do you think I should do away with sigilizations all together?

Thanks a lot guys I appreciate the help.
 
 
Woodsurfer
09:32 / 19.03.06
Not sure what you mean by "sigil" in this context -- I usually think of words or names drawn on the magick square of one of the elder planets -- ?

It seems to me that 23 is a good opportunity to make use of 22 plus one extra thing. Perhaps you could design a set of rituals that use the 22 Tarot trumps as an organizing principle. There's a lot of creative leeway here as can be judged from the zillions of Tarot decks available in the world today. As for the 23rd item: union with the higher self is never a bad idea.

(Just some thoughts from one who is both glad to no longer be twenty and a little wistful at the same time)
 
 
Dead Megatron
12:27 / 19.03.06
That blog itself is already a very nice start if you ask me.

Are you going to study molecular biology? Dude, that will blow your mind. Talking from experience (Although I'd keep my eye open for lab politics. It can ruin the whole thing for you if you're not careful)
 
 
Hawthorn
15:10 / 19.03.06
Yes: taking sciences in an academic setting did interesting things to my magical practice. Yours might get extinguished or split off in intereseting ways.

Neat manifesto. Teenage spirit is a force to be reckoned with and probably this is one reason it's so suppressed.

As to the sigils= boring issue that seems to keep coming up. If they still work and you are not stagnating nor bored of them then what is the problem? I for myself have not been going on about them for three years. I kind of want to get a grounding in the basics before moving on.
 
 
Dead Megatron
16:50 / 19.03.06
Mordant finds sigils boring ´cause she's moved into epic levels and no longer has any need for punny magic missiles to deal with ghoul'n'goblins and the such. She's into metamagic now
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
17:33 / 19.03.06
DM: You mind your language. We'll have none of that sort of talk round here.

Woodsurfer: I'm assuming that sn00p is talking about sigils created using this sort of method, which rests with encoding one's intent in an image and transferring it to the unconscious.

Jade: I hear what you're saying. However, I do feel that there is a heavy overemphasis on sigils in the online magic scene. People seem to get sort of stuck in a mindset that says "Oh, okay, this is what magic is at the core. Everything else is just window-dressing and superstition! 2ccs of mouseblood! FNORD!" and kind of stop making progress. Magical development becomes "thinking of new ways to charge sigils". You might want to look at a few old threads, such as this one.
 
 
Woodsurfer
19:29 / 19.03.06
Okay, the principle seems to be basically the same as the one I'm familiar with (some info on this here: Kamea (Planetary Magic Squares)). I think the idea of using orgasm energy to charge the sigil is pretty cool and probably contributes a great deal to the method's popularity.
 
 
sn00p
10:44 / 20.03.06
Thanks guys, this has give me alot of ideas.
I think im gonna go away and think about all this.
Think of some rituals/charging mechanisms, i want to have 10 sorted out before i officialy start.

As for the sigil issue... im still not sure.
Currently im going for rituals involving visualized sigils.

Although what im hoping during the course of this ill ascend to a higher level of magic, Gandalf kinda shizzle.


Ill let yall know when im going to start posting,
Thanks.
 
 
FinderWolf
17:46 / 21.03.06
Re: another way to charge sigils:

Spinning around in circles, whirling around like a...well, whirling dervish, running around yelling/dancing furiously for about 10 minutes, then STOP everything and just focus your eyes, will, energy and intent on the sigil. Stand or sit or lie down absolutely still as you focus on the sigil. Or, maybe run around/dance around in circles for a good long while and at the height of your intensity, rip up the sigil (if it's on paper) as you look at it while spinning around.

A variation on this sort of thing once worked for me.
 
 
illmatic
17:53 / 21.03.06
Can I make a suggestion? Don't talk about them and don't post about them until long after the event. That way the magick is for you, not anything else, any show, glamour or discussion. Keep it private.
 
 
Daemon est Deus Inversus
19:39 / 21.03.06
I'll give my bit of advice. There's an organization I'm praemonstrator ordinis of, with a lot of free stuff, and you can find it in the two "Joining an Occult Groups" threads.

No matter. Go there. Download the Abrahmelin text. Start very slowly (ignoring the diagrams in the third part) in a modified manner (no arcane stuff) for 60 days starting Easter. Simultaneously, after having looked up every thing you can, work potable gold. (A very simple- and inexpensive- two part- basically spyragic operation which you can figure out. It will, however, take about one third of a year). I'd like to say more on the latter but honestly I can't.

Probably, you'll fail. After a couple of years, you won't. It's the best advice I can offer.
 
 
*
19:52 / 21.03.06
Alternatively, you could advertise.

Advertising is a very powerful form of sigil. You put your sigil on everything, symbolically "wanking" all over everything in sight if you will, and then everyone who sees it "charges" it with the power of their absolute disgust at you for taking up their mental space. You can get anything done if you just advertise sufficiently. Wouldn't you agree, DeDI?
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
19:58 / 21.03.06
[Mod hat] DEDI, dude: You do not get to plug your goddamned order all over the board. You've already linked to it once. If you want to hook this kid up with some texts, great, post a link to the texts. Right now, you look like you're here to recruit rather than to engage.

If you have a problem with any of the above, Policy.
 
 
Daemon est Deus Inversus
20:13 / 21.03.06
Thought I did that: 95% advice; 5% plug. If I give the advice, and I'll follow up on any questions, thought I'd also do the 5% plug. And if people bite at my ankles, my reaction is to bite them back in the ass. I'm just being honest.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
20:24 / 21.03.06
If you have a problem with any of the above, Policy.
 
 
illmatic
20:27 / 21.03.06
Right now, you look like you're here to recruit rather than to engage.

I agree.

You could also explain perhaps WHY someone would want to engage with ceremonial magic, when they've expressed no interest in it thus far, particuarly an operation he's guranteed to fail at. Why not just bother with something that works?

Also, I'd rather here about your direct experience, Dedi, rather than you dropping cryptic hints about your order. Gnomic hints are beloved of occult groups everywhere, and how are we to know there's any substance behind them? I'm much more interested in that than I am your recruitment ploys.
 
 
EvskiG
20:37 / 21.03.06
(And, on an unrelated note, why on Earth did you choose to appropriate Yeats' Golden Dawn motto as your own?)
 
 
Daemon est Deus Inversus
20:41 / 21.03.06
Ceremonial magic is all I know. That's what I briefly posted on. And, lawyer that I am, praemonstrator that I am, my meager advice is better for these kids tnan your trying to take a bite out of my ass (which, I've been told, doesn't taste all that good).
 
 
illmatic
20:50 / 21.03.06
I'm sure it doesn't.

However, what will win people over on this forum is writing engaging posts about your own experience or researches, not one-liners or throwaway bits of advice of questionable relevance. I couldn't care less about your status in your order - what I am much more interested in your ability and willingness to share your experiences on this forum.

The Temple is the best magical forum that I've seen. If you intend to stick around, why not try and post something engaging, convince someone here of your magical vision through the strength of your writing, rather than using it as a recruiting ground?

Try this thread for a few pointers.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
20:53 / 21.03.06
Meanwhile, back at the plot...

snOOp, when can we expect another blog entry up? I'm curious. I think you could even combine your original idea with suggestions from Mordant, et al; keep the blog as a hypersigil guiding and documenting the 23 magical endeavours.

I'd suggest a walk through town where you change direction whenever you hit a red light (taking it as a sign that you shouldn't go that way).
 
 
Daemon est Deus Inversus
20:59 / 21.03.06
Evskiq,

I didn't know at the time that it was WBY's motto. I had to take a 2nd Order motto, and I am the lawyer for HOGD in a suit with HOGD, Inc., so I thought "Daemon est Deus Inversus" was appropriate. Later, as a praemonstrator and a teacher, I found that it was the best that I could do. (And that, in these latter aspects, it was a fairly decent job). So, with all respect to WBY, I've made the motto mine.
 
 
sn00p
06:46 / 22.03.06
It'll be asap honestly.

Im just sorting out all of my rituals in specifics and buying the supplies and stuff.

Then ill start actualy doing them, then writing up my experinces.
 
 
sn00p
16:12 / 26.03.06
Ok so ive got my first real post up.
Im going to be updating roughly weekly.
Id really apreciate any feedback atall, thanks.
 
 
pangloss
16:26 / 27.03.06
sn00p, I'm inspired. I really am. It sounds like you've found your own trip, and that it's working for you.

I won't even try to offer suggestions, because my own spiritual state is too stunted to do anything more than muddy the waters. But I do hope you continue on this journey.
 
 
Dead Megatron
16:42 / 27.03.06
Id really apreciate any feedback atall, thanks.

All I can say is I'm amazed with your talent, dude.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
17:37 / 27.03.06
I liked the idea of getting rid of your work scar as part of the first working. I've obliterated old scars as a componant of a magical working myself; done with care, it can be a very powerful act. The description of your driftwork afterwards was very affecting.

However I must now put on my mum dress and wheel out the obligatory nag on the matter of saftey. Your skin is there for a reason and you poke holes in it at your own risk. Be careful where you cut; stick to areas without big veins, arteries and tendons. Always clean and sterilise your equipment and the proposed site of the cut before and after the working. The best way to let blood is to use one of those little lancet gadgets sold for diabetics--you should be able to get one from a pharmacy. Always use a fresh blade or needle, and NEVER USE GLASS. Glass can leave splinters in the cut which then go septic.

This thread has some info on blood in magic.
 
 
sn00p
18:09 / 27.03.06
Thank you very much for the kind words, i guess ill carry on then!

Don't worry, it was all done safely, i steralised my arm and equipment and i cut on the topside of my forearm (were i think it's just muscle). Although thanks for your concern, safety is important in magic.
 
  
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