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Homeless Children's myths in Miami

 
 
assayudin
05:32 / 15.03.06
This article is old, but has anyone else seen it? I only ran across it because of the Fantastic PLanet Blog where he ties the mythology these children developed to Gnostic thought.

Has anyone else seen this? Are there more articles? Or has anyone got a take on it?

The story really touches me because it reminds me of something Philip K. Dick said "Gnosis manifests first at the trash level" The idea that the castaways and "trash" of our society could develop a myth with startling similarities to Gnostic thought just sort of plucks a chord I guess. I haven't put much thought into it beyond that, but I do like the story.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
06:59 / 15.03.06
I had read that article, yeah. Haven't seen anything about the topic elsewhere thing. It's fascinating; as well as mirroring Gnostic thought, one could draw a very tentative parallel between the disposessed God figure in the children's stories, and the perception of God in certain African-diaspora faiths (or at least, the perception of God in those faiths as I've seen them described by commentators). An essentially benevolent being, but distant, uninvolved, hands-off, with the work on the ground being dealt with by other intelligences.
 
 
assayudin
07:21 / 15.03.06
Yeah. I have noticed the similarity in Voodoun, from what I have read about Bondye(sp?), and the Gnostic view of the big "G" G-d.
 
 
*
08:16 / 15.03.06
In order to get more out of this, you may need to reframe your thinking of these children. These aren't the dregs of society, wherein one may be astonished to find the Gnostic diamonds. They are mostly Latino/Latina children, many of them also of African, Caribbean, and/or indigenous American descent. They are intelligent, they absorb knowledge, they may be magically gifted, they respond to other people's conscious and unconscious behavior towards them. They are building a street culture which reflects that.

Looked at through Gnostic lenses, everything looks like Gnosticism— which is all well and good. But it also ignores the richness and subtlety of people's native cultures, turning these things into pale reflections of Western thought. For instance, here, what is astonishing to me is how these kids are creating an age-specific subculture with a mythology, a ritual technology, and a body of esoteric knowledge which is not divulged to outsiders except with great difficulty. To suborn it as a reflection of gnosticism, I feel, is to obscure the really interesting process of creating a new, albeit syncretic, system to respond to a completely novel environment, the particular challenges of which no other culture has had to meet— those of being a street child in Miami.
 
 
trouser the trouserian
08:34 / 15.03.06
Great post Id!

Here's a link discussing oral traditions developed by African-American children in Louisiana

I'm also reminded of Meghan Lindholm's novel Wizard of the Pigeons (review here) which draws on the 'magical power' of children's skipping rhymes.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
08:41 / 15.03.06
Santeria is massively popular in Miami, so the basic elements of the children's myths aren't really without precedent. Yemaya is quite clearly present as the Blue Lady, and the character of Bloody Mary does recall some of the more sinister, blood thirsty Lwa that take syncretism with the Virgin Mary in Haitian Vodou. The article makes reference to an area of the City called 'Little Haiti' so it's not that much of a stretch to assume that a lot of this folklore comes directly from various magico-religious sources existing side-by-side in the same city, but removed from context and reinvented through the lens of children's imagination.
 
 
Dead Megatron
17:26 / 15.03.06
And I really hope they are only imagining it, because this is some seriously scaring shite. Try to picture a life where it seems like God is on the run and the Virgin Mary has turned into a child-devouring demon...

It must've been hard for the social worker/anthropolgists who wrote that article to collect that information.
 
 
grant
17:46 / 15.03.06
My better half spent 15 years as a state social worker in South Florida; that article doesn't cover 1/10th of it.
 
 
grant
17:48 / 15.03.06
The difficulty, not the mythography, that is.
 
 
Dead Megatron
18:02 / 15.03.06
I'm sure it doesn't. I have been working in my homestate police press room fo about six months now, and I've seen already more than I'd like. It's like waking up and finding out that reality is worse than any horror movie you've ever seen. Zombies all around, I tell you, zombies all around.
 
 
assayudin
03:51 / 16.03.06
Redux at Fantastic Planet

In which Jeremy, the author of FP, clarifies his thoughts on the article. This is what I was gonna say, but he's smarter than me and beat me to it.
 
 
delacroix
03:04 / 17.03.06
I am reminded of the case of the psychotic Dr. Schreber, whose bizarre tale is also remeniscent of Gnosticism

Schreber talked of God as dual, not necesssarily good and evil, but dark and light (Aryan and Semitic, I think he finally got around to saying in his memoir of schizophrenia.) He also said that God was incapable of understanding humanity.

Also, the Blue Lady... Schreber's memoirs came up for me again there, because we're meant to think the Blue Lady is Mary the Nazerene, which perfects our horror when, in fact, no... and in Screheber's case, though everything extant is fucked up, there's a[something] he simply calls the Way of Things that ensures that things do work out, just because it's the Way of Things to... get worked out...

...and Schreber's Way of Things is nameless, cannot be named, like the Blue Lady.

Are names ever good things? Or are they always, despite our good intentions in giving things names, essentially a repeated chant into a mirror to bad effect?
 
  
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