It's a difficult question for some people.

Musicians have held incipient coolness for a long time now, and justifiably so - Music in many forms has been around for a great deal of time.

Filmmaking, however, is a relatively new art - arguments can be made for Theatre evolving into Film, but then Theatre exists alongside Film.

I have a lot of respect for Directors / Producers / Filmmakers, because when they do their job right they're pulling so many threads together and depending on all of them to work. Some might say that a Musician's work is fulfilled with fewer threads but more condensed, raw creation.

I really am sitting on the fence, here, aren't I?

Musicians, for now, anyway. But Filmmakers are catching up.

Dead Megatron

19:45 / 08.03.06

I don't care any way or another, but my female friends are unanimous: musicians. More specifically, they're nuts for sax-players.

In fact, I have a theory that the sax is specifically shaped to be thrice phallic: the part that goes in the month, the long vetical part where the player presses the keys, and the last part that turns up - not coincidentally in the loins area - are each one a separated phallus (the stupid descriptions are due to the fact I don't know their names, if they even have names).

I have a "thing" for women who sing, too.

19:56 / 08.03.06

OMG DM, that's so sexist!!1! Clearly, the part that turns up (the bell, if you must know) is yonic.

That's probably why all your lady friends like saxophones so much.

All Acting Regiment

19:58 / 08.03.06

Herzog. Cool.

Shrug

20:02 / 08.03.06

I've made some films* (very few and amateurish ones at that but some), have worked with numerous budding film-makers, all of who are cool, but I'd still have to say musicians.
I say it because the average musician are usually on display and marketed in a much more obvious way than the average film-maker. (The appreciation of much music is often somehow simultaneously entangled with favourable perceptions of the lead singer/band.) I think this is also because music offers a more obvious insight as to its author unlike film which seems more abstracted or at least isn't instantaneously rewarding in this insight.

*Not that this makes me any kind of authority on the subject.

Haus of Mystery

20:08 / 08.03.06

Miike = cool.

Molko = penis.

See there's room for debate.

Shrug

20:11 / 08.03.06

In relation to their field of work I find filmmakers more interesting. However, that isn't the question and I'm obviously biased.

Dead Megatron

20:15 / 08.03.06

Clearly, the part that turns up (the bell, if you must know) is yonic.

Well, considering the female friends I mentioned are all openly bisexual (although, for some reason, they won't invite me for their slumber parties, damn it), so you're probably right

Sooooo, saxophones are twice phallic and once yonic? Hmmmm, this is very sexy, in a porn-movie kinda way.

No wonder musicians get so much action, those f&¨%ers

Shrug

20:15 / 08.03.06

Woody Allen.
Alfred Hitchcock.

Interesting.

Spaniel

20:18 / 08.03.06

Mac, could you have some fucking respect and stop polluting the board with images of Molko?

He's just... nasty.

The Falcon

20:19 / 08.03.06

Yes, but who will they be pitted against, eh?

I'd suggest Mos 'Woody Allen is a fucking paedophile' Def and, I dunno, Kathleen Hanna; in which case = another win for the musicians.

The Falcon

20:23 / 08.03.06

However:

= your luck's right out, Nordenstam.

Shrug

20:27 / 08.03.06

Should've added "in relation to their field of work" on the end of that. And yes Woody is more maligned. Hitchcock's personal life has dodgy ground aswell.
Niether are cool at all.

Shrug

20:34 / 08.03.06

I think actors are cooler than musicians.

Shrug

20:47 / 08.03.06

Asia Argento's pretty cool. As is Jane Campion.

Spaniel

20:49 / 08.03.06

Yeah, this guy's supercool.

Shrug

21:07 / 08.03.06

You've never made a more valid point Boboss.
It can only be downhill from here.

eddie thirteen

21:09 / 08.03.06

Musicians are even cooler when they're Scientologists.

Musical Scientologists? Beck and Isaac Hayes.

Filmmaking Scientologists? Yeah -- that guy.

I rest my case.

grant

21:11 / 08.03.06

Musicians are posers. They're like actors who can sing.

Filmmakers are gods. They create new realities. Even if they look funny.

Mistoffelees

21:11 / 08.03.06

Music:
Nick Cave, Lou Reed, Morrissey

Film:
Uwe Boll, Paul W.S. Anderson, Jean Claude Van Damme

Yay, music wins!

Shrug

21:17 / 08.03.06

But who would win in a fight?

Less searchable M0rd4nt

21:18 / 08.03.06

Me. Also I would make a film of my winning, and then rock the fuck out on the soundtrack.

eddie thirteen

21:20 / 08.03.06

Asia Argento's pretty cool. As is Jane Campion.

But Asia Argento sings, and is also probably the result of some awesome breeding project, so that's irrelevant. And, um...Jane Campion, like, directed The Piano. And that's kinda close, because you, y'know, play songs on it. Next!

Shrug

21:25 / 08.03.06

Good Answer Senor Carnival but if you had to fight Morrissey (I mean if you really had to like he was rabid or something....) .... STOPPING NOW.

grant

21:41 / 08.03.06

Van Damme: not a filmmaker! He is tool used by filmmakers!

astrojax69

21:48 / 08.03.06

yes, grant, that's what van damme is. a tool.

obviously there are no cool musicians, really. it is all just an act.

a film maker, on the other hand, affects a disdain of cool and so is well cool. i mean, how cool is walt disney now? heads up on that one, eh?

Spaniel

21:52 / 08.03.06

Wasn't Walt a bit of an old fascist? In my book that makes him pretty uncool.

Shrug

22:01 / 08.03.06