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17:43 / 02.03.06
It seems to me that it would be nice to have a thread dedicated to explaining the unspoken rules of various fora. I'll start.

Head Shop
There's a perception that you need an advanced degree to post in Head Shop. This isn't so. What you need is an understanding of the way to conduct inquiry in a systematic manner, and a way to explain that clearly. Here's one possible example of that process:
An initial post makes an assertion— let's call it "People who believe blue must necessarily also believe yellow." Even if you don't know very much at all about "blue" and "yellow," you can look up these two brightly-coloured schools of thought on wikipedia. If something doesn't feel right about the assertion, you can dissect why this might be so. For example, you might find that if interpreted in a certain way, "blue" thought does not necessitate "yellow" thought. Then you post a link to your definitions, explain how you are interpreting "blue" thought, and how it does not appear to necessitate "yellow" thought. Valid responses include challenging your definition, your interpretation, your reasoning process, or agreeing with any or all of the above, or approaching the question from a different angle. This is not an exhaustive list.
There are many other, unproductive ways in which you might approach this problem. Some of the most annoying include attacking blue thought, when the topic is actually blue thought's relationship to yellow thought and not blue thought's merits of its own, attacking green thought, when no one has mentioned green thought at all, claiming to be an expert and producing unsubstantiated claims on the grounds of your self-proclaimed expertise, making personal attacks, and using "argument from funny words"— a logical fallacy wherein the poster makes an assertion which appears to rest on her or his ability to call an invisible adversary amusing names.

Also, if your argument rests on an assumption that people will take the existence of anything that might reasonably be called supernatural, psychic, magic, spirits, deities, or subtle bio-energy like chi or prana as a given, it probably more properly belongs in Temple.

Temple
Remember when posting here that just because people are expected to take as given that science does not describe the whole of reality, and people here generally hold beliefs about magic, the supernatural, deities, thoughtforms, and other such things, it does not necessarily hold true that their critical thinking skills will be suspended to the point that they won't question what you say. Argument from personal experience is more accepted here, but people generally don't feel like it's threatening when their experience is respectfully questioned, so long as it's not discounted altogether.



Any other takers? Also, if this is not your experience, please feel free to correct me.
 
 
Quantum
18:03 / 02.03.06
In both those fora (especially Temple) it's important to explain yourself as if to an interested layman. Threads about obscure esoterica nobody else has heard of are welcome, but don't assume everybody else is as interested and proficient in (Swedish Gemetria/Bible code sigils/Dworkin's sex life/Sztarkin's metaphysics of monkeys) as you are.
 
 
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14:20 / 03.03.06
Head Shop
Is there a way to post about personal feelings in Head Shop?

I think yes. I think expressing that something seems a certain way to you, that you feel a certain way about something, even when there's no reason or evidence to back you up, is fine, provided you are careful not to imply that these feelings necessarily have authority over the way things work for others. I realize this sounds like I'm saying that reason and evidence have more authority than emotion and intuition. What I'm trying to say is that personal feelings have authority primarily for the people they're personal to, and secondarily for others to respect that people have these feelings.

For instance: I can say in Head Shop, and expect to be respected, that given that I feel that nihilism is an unproductive philosophy for me personally (although I have no evidence, and in this case no process of logical reasoning) I choose not to allow it to guide my life. It would be unreasonable of me to adopt nihilism if my personal feelings about the philosophy indicate that it is unproductive for me. Respect for the first assertion includes honoring that stance as written, questioning if there is some further reasoning or experience, but crucially not discounting that stance as written even if there is not.
What I should not assert, or if I do it will not be respected, is that nihilism is unproductive for everyone, IMO, and no one should guide their lives based on this philosophy, and I refuse to take seriously anyone who does.

How does this seem to people?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
22:34 / 03.03.06
Switchboard- if you're going to present an opinion as being a prevailing mindset, then please please please give us some evidence. It's a forum for current affairs and the politics thereof- random speculation is all well and good, but if you can't give a basis or backup for it then all you're doing is playing in your own mess and telling everyone else you're king of the castle because you've managed to eat more of it.
 
  
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